274Re: Eckankar: The H.I. Letter June 2005
- Jul 17, 2005Hi, Prometheus!
I like your analysis! Thanks for sharing this! : )
This time Klemp tells about Rumi and his teacher the ECK Master
To recap: In the June 2005 Mystic World Klemp talked about Milarepa
(11th Century) and his beer drinking, difficult, and secret (newly
created) ECK Master Marpa. By the way, were the Four Zoas (laws) of
Eckankar in effect then? Beer drinking (alcohol) for ECK Masters
(High Initiates) is forbidden according to the 1st Zoa (Shariyat 2,
pg.283). Therefore, was Marpa really still qualified to initiate
Milarepa and was Milarepa therefore qualified to be the
L.E.M./Mahanta and so on and so forth for all of those afterwards?
Remember, this is pre-Rebazar (excuse) too! Harold stuck his foot in
his mouth it would seem. Eckists seem to turn a deaf ear and blind
eye to it all while numbly and mindlessly trusting that these words
don't really indicate a flaw in logic or dogma. Why was Klemp so
stupid to mention this! It's because he's so arrogant and secure
with his delusions! Eckists will believe anything and everything
their leader tells them. Of course, we former Eckists know that
Twitch was the first to make it all up as the 1st L.E.M., and Klemp
continues the con. Maybe he just needs to use the excuse of "Catch-
It seems Klemp's whole purpose in mentioning this "history" of ECK
Masters in both publications is to compete with and top "Sri"
Michael Owens (thewayoftruth.com)! I found it interesting that Klemp
states, "Shamus was a hard teacher." Klemp is not only attempting to
re-enforce his (Klemp's) authenticity and authority, but also to
justify his hard-handedness to the entire Eckankar membership.
According to Klemp, Mapa was a "difficult" teacher, Shamus was
a "hard" teacher; therefore, HK must be hellish! Actually, Klemp is
just B.S.ing Eckists to make it seem that his unloving harshness,
censorship, and control tactics are for one's own good. It's not
true, of course. Klemp only has the power Eckists give him! Eckists
have allowed Klemp to entrap their own Souls!
Here's an interesting quote: "Shamus met him in the marketplace, and
this encounter threw Rumi into a daze. It vaulted him to a greater
state of consciousness. What mortal enjoyed such divine power as
Shamus?" Well, since the Eckankar Lexicon states that Shamus was the
L.E.M./Mahanta, then it seems Klemp is putting himself right up
there too! Rumi, on the other hand, was just "a follower of ECK"
(Eckankar Lexicon, pg. 102) and not even an Eck Master. This is why
Klemp states that Rumi just experienced "a greater state of
consciousness" instead of God-Realization. If HK had stated that
Rumi had experienced God-Realization, then Rumi would have to be
listed as more than just "a follower of ECK" in the Eckankar
Lexicon. At least Klemp got that part of his tale correct! Still, it
seems HK is also giving credence to his own 1970 "daze" to again
validate his qualifications and to give his words merit. This is
brain washing at its best. . . very subtle and not so forceful like
Scientology. Still, there is that Twitchell connection to the
I found it interesting that Owens' site has a section that has Rumi
talking as though he is still with us! Klemp, however, makes three
distinct speculations about what happened to Shamus after he left
Rumi. Klemp makes statements like: "other speculation; no one really
knows; there are said; A third reason that Shamus may have left"
etc. Klemp even suggests that Shamus could have been murdered by
Rumi's disciples! Actually, Klemp seems to know what Shamus was
thinking by describing it (at first) in terms that Judge Judy (of TV
fame) might use, but then HK starts to backpedal and
speculate. "Rumi, he felt needed 'to be cooked' by separation. After
all, his first departure had seen in Rumi a far greater devotion to
God. Yet he still leaned too heavily on Shamus; it was holding him
back spiritually, so Shamus may have decided to pop Rumi back in the
Now this is interesting! Here Klemp states that Rumi could only
become fully "cooked" spiritually if he was separated from his
Master. So, since Rumi was unwilling to leave or say good-bye then
Shamus did the right thing and let him go by walking away. . .
maybe. Or maybe Shamus was assassinated! Two things come to mind.
Why doesn't Klemp (the Mahanta) know the truth about Shamus since
Shamus also possessed the Mahanta consciousness? Klemp screwed that
up, didn't he! And secondly, why doesn't Klemp let his H.I.s go and
allow them to become more fully "cooked" since he is, apparently,
holding them "back spiritually!" "And so there we leave it."
After this article is a small box that states: "The goal of an H.I.
get-together is to strengthen you in your common purpose: to assist,
through outer service, the Mahanta, the Living ECK Master in his
mission to show Soul the way home to God." --Shree Klempster
Now why doesn't Klemp just say what an H.I. "get-together" really
is? It's a TRAINING, People! Klemp doesn't even capitalize "get-
together" since it's to be thought of as a social gathering of
sorts, but it's not! Yes, Eckists are now realizing their true goal
and mission as pseudo Eck Masters in training (forever) is not God-
Realization, but to recruit more paying members! Who'd a thunk!
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