2623The Delusions of "ECK" Experiences
- Jun 7, 2007Hi Mish and All,
I see where many Eckists believe in their
religion due to their imagined "Eck/master
experiences." I've had many things happen
to me that I could attribute to the "Mahanta"
if I were still an Eckist looking for a story
For example: While on a road trip recently I
was thinking how nice it would be to have a
Starbucks skinny orange mocha with no whip
cream. Well, I noticed that I should get gas
and took the next exit. In order to get back
on the freeway I had to drive down a long winding
road. This was very unusual and I wondered where
it was taking me. Well guess what?! It took me
to a Starbucks! After getting my Grande skinny
orange mocha with froth (and an extra shot),
I saw where the road took me back to the Interstate.
Now was this the Mahanta giving me a nudge? Nope!
It was me operating as Soul and listening to Spirit
without the phoney Mahanta taking credit for it.
There are hundreds of examples of these same kind
of events that we all have. And, No Mahanta is Needed
for any of them!
If you have any to share please do!
> Hi, Kaye & All!
> Kaye what you wrote states it all pretty much in a nutshell:
> "Your posts on "Letters to Gail" reminded me of the impression I
> of PT while he "wrote" these "letters"- in my mind I pictured himin
> a hurry, traveling the world unearthing more hidden knowledge andletters
> taking the time to tutor this young woman. So intellectual and
> romantic, huh? Now, by reading how it really was,
> I feel so dumb! There he was, copying the material into phony
> in his apartment with her right there proofreading them. This isjust
> further proof to me of what this organization started out as andwhat
> it remains today. Funny thing is that HK's writing never had thisI
> effect on me- his writing tone was flat and lacked feeling to me.
> began to view them as dry lectures with the heavy dogma that Ifound
> in other religions."religion
> But there is no need to feel dumb for falling for such a scam.
> Unfortunately, the scam continues for so many; thus, what is
> particularly sad are the many who continue to cling to this fake,
> deceptive, made-up religion. PT is still revered while HK is
> tolerated. Someone stated to me today that some people need
> for one reason or another. They need to be told what is the rightway
> to go morally and they also feel safer even though manipulated.and
> Because of this need, it opens the door for such conmen like PT
> HK. To me, it seems that agreeing to follow such conmen is thelazy
> man's path to enlightenment. The catch 22 is that the path leadsobviously
> nowhere. The followers are achieving nothing when being so
> tricked. Being trained to use one's imagination in order toconnect
> with fake masters on the pretense of becoming spirituallyenlightened
> and God Realized is not connecting at all! Why would God or Spiritso
> view any of us as being less capable of speaking/connecting to Him
> directly than someone like Klemp? Think about it--what makes Klemp
> special? Because he says so??? NOT!!that
> Here's something to consider as well. How do eckists determine
> they are above the fray and more spiritually advanced than non-are
> eckists? They are constantly judging others and criticizing. They
> also very smug in thinking that they are the chosen ones in thisplace,
> lifetime. If someone has an issue with them, say, in the work
> the eckist will never look for fault in himself, but rather hewill
> say that the other is just not as advanced a Soul. There is justso
> much arrogance that grows into one's personality when believingall
> the nonsense of the eckankar teachings--as eckists learn thisno
> arrogance from Klemp's writings and talks in particular. There is
> such thing as a humble true blue eckist--it is quitecontradictory.
> One cannot be a true blue eckist and remain humble. It is a ratherof
> amusing predictament for eckists if they really look at themselves
> individually--look at what is festering truly on the Inner.
> Still, on another note, I am looking forward to seeing what "new"
> changes will be taking place within the eckankar org by the time
> the next EWWS! I still predict that Joan will be revealed as apower
> rightful female eck master and thus she will be able to help HK
> remain on his throne! HK's book "Those Wonderful ECK Masters" is a
> cunning ploy to pave the way for Joan's taking over some of the
> in the eck org. Such a fairy tale spin is presently undercontruction
> and behind the curtains in Chanhassen! HK believes he can pullthis
> off, because he knows how gullible his followers are! LOL!he
> --- In EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com, tee green
> <xekweed@> wrote:
> > Hi Prometheus and Everyone,
> > Thanks for getting back to me about Phil. I'm not at all
> surprised that he is still active in the organization. After all,
> and many others have so much invested in it. I admit, when I was athe
> member, I did enjoy his work. I think the tone of the writer can
> affect the reader deeply if the writer understands this and has
> talent to achieve it.impression
> > Your posts on "Letters to Gail" reminded me of the
> I had of PW while he "wrote" these "letters"- in my mind Ipictured
> him in a hurry, traveling the world unearthing more hiddenknowledge
> and taking the time to tutor this young woman. So intellectual andThis
> romantic, huh? Now, by reading how it really was,
> > I feel so dumb! There he was, copying the material into phony
> letters in his apartment with her right there proofreading them.
> is just further proof to me of what this organization started outas
> and what it remains today. Funny thing is that HK's writing neverhad
> this effect on me- his writing tone was flat and lacked feeling toI
> me. I began to view them as dry lectures with the heavy dogma that
> found in other religions.Belief
> > If I may, I would like to recommend a website- Beyond
> 2006- great video clips in which the scientific community reviewseffect
> religious beliefs and questions the validity of them and the
> it has on us.
> > http://beyondbelief2006.org/
> > Happy Friday!
> > Kaye
> > ---------------------------------
> > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative
> > Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center.
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