225Re: HCS discussion
- Jul 2, 2005Hello, Ingrid!
I read this on HCS and thought you showed a lot of courage to speak
your "truth." It seems as one also reads Mario's and Betty's replies
to the complaints about their conspiracy "crap" postings on HCS that
they will never stop. They totally disregard the requests and wishes
of others, and do just as they please--forever! Perhaps, this is
because they are so brainwashed in their beliefs and they will never
be clear of it! It is really rather sad to see this in people.
Thanks for posting this here.
--- In EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com, "ctecvie"
> Hello all,free
> I was asked to post the contribution I made to the HCS Bulletin
> Board yesterday on ESA as well. So here it is - if anybody feels
> like cross-posting or sharing it with others, you are of course
> to do so!wholeheartedly
> Subject: Spiritual focus
> Hello JCP,
> thank you so much for speaking up on this BB. I agree
> with what you say. I can't really imagine that ex-Eckists couldlast
> very long on this BB if it's spiritual guidance that they areto
> seeking. In any case, had it been that way last year when I came
> the BBs, I wouldn't have gotten involved with HCS at all. It isnot
> spiritually uplifting for me for sure! I can't understand whypeople
> here, after having experienced what Eckankar did to them, wouldfall
> for even worse cults like Laura Knight and company. There havebeen
> Eckists who have left Eckankar and who have gone back after a fewPerhaps
> months - and I consider that kind of decision, albeit my
> difficulties of understanding it, a whole lot better than falling
> for Laura Knight. I think we all can do better than that!
> Mykel - thanks for your post, too. I sure miss, like you, Usually
> Skeptical a lot, I liked his/her pointed analyses very much.
> he/she is one of the people who got fed up with all the conspiracyalways
> crap as well - who knows?! I sure can understand that! And the
> reason why Journey left is quite obvious to me - he/she was being
> put down so often by Betty and Mario that in the end he/she must
> have kind of given up. As far as I remember, Genti, another person
> whom I thought was very spiritual, left because of too much
> discussion about aliens and conspiracy. So, not many really
> interesting people are remaining here - of course Ed Kusi is
> a highlight for me.once
> Well, Betty - you didn't say anything really new in your last,
> again long-winded post. What strikes me again, as in all of yourand "teach"
> posts, is that you seem to think you need to "educate"
> us "the Truth". Please remember that this is only YOUR truth andnot
> THE TRUTH. There are a lot of truths out there - and all of themare
> personal and individual truths, backed up by our own and personalin
> experiences, nothing more and nothing less. Even if you are not
> aware of it, you do talk down to the "uneducated" like I am one -
> and I do feel offended. Please don't try to justify yourself - I
> have heard it all, and it's of no use as this will be my only
> statement on this topic.
> I'm really surprised to read that you are hardly more interested
> conspiracies than JCP is! What a bold statement! All I canperceive
> is that you have hardly anything else to tell in your posts apartsomething
> from the endless talk about conspiracies. Ah yes, there is
> else - that Eckankar is still the highest path on earth. It seemsto
> me that, to this day, you have not really left Eckankar. ObviouslyI
> do not agree with you at all - but this is my truth, just as thefrom
> statement you make is your truth again. Remember that Eckankar has
> stolen a lot of wisdom, if not all of it, from other paths and
> life itself - no wonder it's "close to the truth" as you saybecause
> that way, this is really very easy to do!about
> I'm always wondering from where comes your absolute certitude
> how life works. I do think that you make valid statements whichare
> apply to many of us, but again - it's your truth, it's how you
> perceive life. This is very good. But please remember that there
> a lot of fairly intelligent people out here who have all somethingthe
> to share - and I mean, to SHARE and not talk down to somebody - on
> that. Unfortunately, there was not much sharing going on during
> last few weeks or months because Mario and you practically did allas
> the "sharing" - interspersed by some highlight posts from Ed Kusi
> mentioned above. I can say for me that I was discouraged from thatit
> by the way this BB was running because Mario and you clearly are
> dominating it. Fortunately, people braver than me spoke up
> eventually - and that gives me hope that the BB will eventually
> recover and provide the excellent spiritual and personal insights
> had when I first came here.
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