2199Fwd: Secret Words (was Re: Hello, former Eckist signing in)
- Jan 30, 2007Hi, All!
Leaf, hope it is okay that I have reposted these messages
from EckankarTruth, but I want to tie it in with a discussion
taking place on HuChat about secret words in eckankar.
I am posting the HuChat comments following Leaf's posts
along with some of my own observations.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "tomleafeater"
Okay, pony up, people! Tell us, what was your secret word
from the second initiation? It is healing to give up that last little
hold on the eckankar illusion!
--- In email@example.com, "Tian Yue" <tianyue@>
> Ha! That's good, revealing your not-so-secret secret word.I've a copy of the book buried somewhere in storage. My secret word
> The initator's book has a list of them for the second initiates.
that I received in the second, Huna, is straight from the book.
>initiation, and having to give them a word. I was determined to get
> I find myself laughing...I remember giving people the second
the word from the inner and not from the book. Jeez, I really find
myself laughing about this now. I found the strangest words to give
>skeptical looks as if they didn't quite buy into the word I'd given
> Oh gawd... (I'm really laughing here)....they would give me
them, and I'd feel like a fool as the initiator, because I thought it
was ridiculous, too. One word I gave someone was "anta" and I
explained to the man receiving the word, "You know, as in 'Mahanta'
but without the first syllable. Your word is 'anta.' " I felt like a
>myself, not eckankar. I wondered why there was so little training for
> Even I, as an H.I., knew it was silly, but at the time, I blamed
initiators. I was a very self-honest person, and I knew BS coming out
of my mouth when I saw it. I knew these weren't secret words I was
giving people. What a weird situation to have to personally struggle
with. I think the High Initiates are the most screwed up, self-
deluded and exploited people in eckankar.
>--- End forwarded message ---
Now, a recent post from a discussion on HuChat
regarding "the secret word:"
Your issue is a very senstive one...There was a time i
felt my secret word was no longer working for me.I
felt i needed a change. I wrote to the Master about
it, secondly, i sincerely did my friday fast and in
the night i put a request to the master that "I need a
new initiate word". So, i got ready to recieve it in
the inner. But to my greatest surprise in the inner, i
saw a man in a cage. Still in the dream, i wondered if
i have not been using my word perfectly.
with this experience, i took my word very siriously
and started using it frquently as well. And it's still
So, if you put the request to the master, get prepared
to recieve it. The master will give it to you if you
really need(earn) it.
There's another way to do this. Go to Eckankar cosmic
sea of words...try as many words as you like. Anyone
that works for you, pick it and maybe talk it over
with the master. Or, maybe, you can meet with any HI
in your area for an advice. Thank you.
(end of HuChat post)
I was impressed at how the eckist writing the above
post could so easily disregard the image of the man in
the cage. Instead, he questioned if he was using his
secret word properly rather than to contemplate why he
was given the "gift" of this surprising image. Why didn't
he try to figure out who the man in the cage was and why
the man was in that cage?? Instead, the focus was on using
the "secret word" and since the eckist did not like the image
he was given, he worked it until he got rid of it--rationalizing
it to fit exactly what he wanted regarding the secret word. It
seems this is the way the eck masters are to be conjured
up as well. Keep doing the spiritual exercises until you get
them in your imagination . . . and then they will become
real like you! But why wasn't the man in the cage "real" to
this eckist? Why did he disregard it?
It seems that the man in the cage was showing the eckist
how trapped he is in eckankar, but there are none so blind
as those who cannot see . . . or rather those who do not want to
see. This is why eckists remain in the org. It's all selective
perception: they see what they want to see; they believe what they
want to believe--and the rest doesn't matter to them. It's not
important in the state of delusion they choose to dwell in.