1560Eckankar - Ask the Master - June 2005 - The Mystic World
- Aug 6, 2006This review will analyze what Klemp is actually saying, implying, or
Not saying versus what this Sun Valley Eckist is imagining he is
saying. Also, I disagree that "A surprising number of chelas missed
his article." This, also, is an imagined assumption. The truth is
that Klemp really didn't take a stand or say much of anything to get
excited about. It was a typical ho-hum response by a anti-social
farmboy/preacher wannabe who flew under the radar and rode in on the
coat-tails of two scammers that also claimed to be saviors.
AN ECK SLIDE SHOW FOR MEMBERS ONLY:
"A Warning . . . . .
In the June 2005 issue of the Mystic World Sri Harold warned of the
massive upheaval in the world. A surprising number of chelas missed
Never before. . .
The Master has never come out with such a strong message. But as
always he offered a solution: 'Only love and service' can make a
difference, he said. 'The future is in your hands and depends upon
you, and others like you' added Sri Harold. (Ask the Master, page 5,
June 2005 Mystic World)
ss - Sun Valley, CA"
ASK THE MASTER - JUNE 2005 - THE MYSTIC WORLD OF ECKANKAR
Q: "We now have the ECKANKAR Spiritual Center on the same ground as
the Temple of ECK, the major ECK seminars in Minneapolis, and even
more focus on Vahana work in the RESA structure."
1.) "How will that affect ECKANKAR and the life of the chelas all
over the world--now and in the future?"
2.) "And what about the world in general?"
Me: It seems to me that Klemp is isolating himself and Eckankar.
Instead of spreading out or reaching out through travel to various
cities Klemp is having everything confined to the Minneapolis area.
The volunteer Vahana effort is just a way of giving "busy work"
(trainings, classes, intros, discussions, making plans, organizing,
etc.) so that Eckists will continue to live in the future versus the
now, and remain distracted and tied to the promise of God
Realization through Initiation and position. Anway, let's see how
Klemp answers these two questions.
HK: "Watch to see how this plays out. The future is in your hands
and depends upon you and others like you."
Me: How long does it take to "play out?" Klemp has been the
LEM/Mahanta since 1981! What does HK mean by the future being "in
your hands and depends upon you and others like you?" Are Eckists
supposed to be pro-active for world peace, recycle, use less energy,
or is their higher vibratory rate (consciousness) going to raise
world consciousness? Will having more HU Chants raise world
HK: "Yes, there is a great spiritual significance in that the new
ECKANKAR spiritual Center joins the ECK Temple and chapel on the ECK
Me: Okay, what is this "great spiritual significance?" Please
explain this and give examples! Also, I always thought that the true
Seat of Power was where ever the LEM/Mahanta resided - otherwise
these are just buildings. What was HK's home address again? : )
HK: "Yet that is hardly the beginning and the end of it. Nor is the
fact that this is the Year of the ECK Missionary."
Me: Okay, nothing much said here either. BTW - How did last year
(Year of the Eck Missionary) turn out? What were the results
compared to previous years? Because there should be some great
improvements with the ESC, Temple, chapel, World Wide Seminar, and
Year of the Missionary all bunched together - right?
HK: "Each element is certainly an important part of the whole, BUT
only love and service will make any success come true. So it's up to
you (and you, and you)."
Me: Okay, so was there enough love and service in 2005 to make the
Year of the Missionary a success compared to previous years? It
would be nice to know what the results were and how much donation
money (and how many donated service hours per Vahana) it takes to
bring in a new member. Is it now something like $50 dollars and 25
hours of service per Vahana = one new member? Was this worse than
last year or better? Which local areas spent the most or least money
and/or hours per new member?
HK: "How will this affect the world and all within it?"
Me: Well, this is the question you've been dancing around!
HK: "A quickening of the spiritual currents is in the works. The
purification of Souls will speed up."
Me: Oh, so the LEM/Mahanta will now start to uplift the world
consciousness because the ESC, Temple, chapel, EWWS, and because of
the success of the Vahana effort (finally) and because of all of
those ECK High Initiates and their Higher Consciousness!
HK: "The table of politics, economics, and order in society are due
to turn upside down. There will be unrest of the deepest kind. BUT
you will feel at peace."
Me: What! This seems to be a very negative view of the world and of
life in general. So tell me again of the "great spiritual
significance" of the bundled together Eck compound. Is Klemp going
to build high rise condos for Eckists on the Eckankar property and
wall it in! Will it be wholly self-sufficient with a natural foods
grocery etc., etc.? What will that cost, when will ground breaking
begin, what are the qualifications and restrictions to get on the
list? It's a good thing that (at least) Eckists won't have to worry
and will "feel at peace."
HK: "Something will always be boiling over in human affairs. Yet
sanctuary, peace, and contentment are in ready supply in the higher
states of consciousness."
Me: So does this mean that there won't be an Eck compound and high
rise condos near the ESC or Temple? Is happiness and peace just a
state of mind? How about the rest of the world for all those
Vahanas - what are they to do? Ah, just close your eyes to it all
and HU. Don't worry about the suffering of the non-believers (non-
Eckists) it's their karma! Don't worry about the animals either!
It's karmic! The LEM/Mahanta can't prevent the Kali Yuga or can he?
Can the love of the Mahanta the incarnation of Sugmad intervene?
Well, if he was actually all that he claims he could prevent war or
his presence (and his H.I.'s) could even raise world consciousness -
BUT, Klemp's not really who or what he claims.
HK: "The Spiritual Exercises of ECK are your means to enter them.
They will be your solace. They are the spring-board to love divine,
to a love that excels all other things. Take heart, the sun shines
on all who love God, the ECK, and the Mahanta."
Me: What happened to Sugmad versus God? There is a difference (see
pages 385-386 in HK's Autobiography)! And, which "sun" does Klemp
talk about? The one in this small insignificant solar system! It
seems that Klemp is once again encouraging Eckists to feel and
behave as elitists and to place themselves upon pedestals above
Yes, just do the S.E. of Eck and all will be well in your delusional
and selfish little minds he instructs. Where did Klemp give true
direction or current answers for living in this here and now?
Conflict has always been with mankind, however, consciousness is
slowly increasing. Klemp paints a bleak picture as does other
religious fundamentalists who are anticipating the Rapture or
Armageddon or 72 virgins some other sort of nonsense to exclude
others. Talk is cheap for HK and this type of bible thumper. They
know nothing of true Love or of Spirit. Religious leaders and new
saviors are in the business of seeking followers to trick and scam
for whatever means they see fit and justified to use them for.
Many chelas have heard Klemp's pitiful side-stepping of questions
before and this is another reason for the lack concern. Eckists have
become passive. They did not "miss" this article as the Sun Valley
chela stated. really, is it any wonder that Vahana efforts are
difficult to get off the ground when Klemp encourages Eckists to
hide in a cave and HU themselves to sleep as a solution to the
upheavel in the world! Eckists should ask themselves how they differ
from a pebble. Is the whole Vahana effort to get people to use the
HU as a sort of self-centered mind numbing drug, or to bring in more
annual $$$ memberships? Vahanas are like drug pushers! What good is
Higher Consciousness if it is not used to benefit mankind and and if
it does not raise world or universal consciousness!?
Klemp's answers should really make Eckists re-think the position
Eckankar is taking in this world.
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