1289Karma - Good & Bad and Poor Attitudes by Eckists
- Apr 12, 2006Hi Christel,
Karma is a strange thing. Yes, there is "good" and "bad" and yet the
bad can be seen as good because it benefits Soul (eventually) and
yet good can be seen as bad because it, is said, to hold Soul back
from attaining final freedom. It was also once said that most
Eckists were financially poor because they spent most of
their "good" karma to find Eckankar! LOL!
As far as any "official" directives involving treatment of former
Eckists there are policies in place, BUT these are monitored by the
RESAs [and by the secret "special security" service of former
resas]. Generally Eckists just read "between-the-lines" or take
clues from the negativity that is expressed both directly and
indirectly by Klemp. Also, any true Eckist will know the Eck dogma
well enough to understand that Eckists, and especially High
Initiates, are superior to other Souls. A 2nd Initiate does not have
to reincarnate again and 6th Initiates (or higher) are established
on (at least) the Soul Plane (according to dogma). Of course, these
superior attitudes are nothing new if people would just look around
at other religions and cults and to remember world and national
However, Klemp seems to contradict the dogma established by
Twitchell by saying that initiations, too, can be won or lost daily.
I always read (and thought) that it was "consciousness" that could
be won or lost daily, or from moment to moment! The (phoney)
initiations should remain in place due to the protection and
guidance of the Mahanta for his chelas. BUT, we now see that Klemp
has reneged on this too! Yes, he's not much of a Mahanta! Then
again, where was HK's Virgin Birth! And yet, he claims to be greater
than Jesus! LOL!
p.s. I too have to say THANKS to Freefrom and that "I like all of
you" as well!
always it is good to read here and to find all doubts and scepticims
in my ekult-time. Sometimes then I saw myself total nutty because
nobody else could understand what was the problem to me and I got
doubts of myself!
So also about karma. In ekult karma only is bad, but in the eastern
thinking, we produce also good karma. In ekult all good we do
is 'the Mahanta' within us, 'Thank you, Mahanta'. Only the bad doing
is my action? I never could believe, that the good I do is the merit
of the LEM, Mahanta!!
Another point:Is someone knowing about orders or instructions to
HI's by the LEM to treat friends who has left ekult? I couldn't
understand, since I've left e, my longstanding friend for years
before I got eckist, has changed so much in her relation to me.
If possible, thanks for responds Christel
I agree about there being both good and bad karma, and actually
there is a need to experience both, although I do prefer the good
more! : )
As to what orders and instructions may be given to H.I.'s by the LEM
on how to treat those of us who have dropped out, I don't know.
Perhaps, some others can shed some light on your question.
However, since dropping out of e-cult, I have maintained some
friendships with some eckists while others have fallen by the
wayside. We really didn't have much of an association except for e-
cult, so I find this a normal response to my leaving. But I did have
a couple of "good" eck friends, who after trying to maintain a
friendly relationship, said they could no longer handle being around
me, and said goodbye. It was at least honest, and I'm okay with that
The interesting thing, though, that while being a lower initiate in
e-cult I had my fair share of being shunned and ignored by H.I.s. I
was told that I wasn't spiritually evolved enough and some H.I.s
feared that lower initiates such as myself would bring down their
higher vibrations--they could not and would not associate with those
members who were not H.I.s--really delusional arrogance! I wonder
what those H.I.s would do for a person in an emergency? Oh, I know
it's that karma thing, so don't interfere, right! LOL!
P.S. Freefrom, thanks for the message! I like you too! : )
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