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33375Re: [EchoElysianNCForum] Gang injunction/repost

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  • Trey Baskett
    Aug 17, 2013
      The answer is the police department Crime Analysis Detail and the City Attorney's office will have the stats. Maybe the Rampart and Northeast Senior Leads and a CA rep can break down a before and after picture too in the communities that have injunctions.

      From: "pbspeedo@..." <pbspeedo@...>
      To: "EchoElysianNCForum@yahoogroups.com" <EchoElysianNCForum@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 1:16 AM
      Subject: Re: [EchoElysianNCForum] Gang injunction/repost

      Geez. Relax. I asked a question. Can you answer it?

      On Aug 17, 2013, at 1:15 AM, Trey Baskett <gcbthree@...> wrote:

      Speedo, are you arguing there are an acceptable number of gang crimes? I know what my number is. But if you even say one, then I respond by asking which one? There is not a single gang related crime that does not involve an element of actual or implied violence or intimidation visited upon a community in some form or another. So who really is responsible for sowing fear in our neighborhoods?

      Understand this. Criminal gangs as defined by California Penal Code Sections 186.20-186.33 are in no way legitimate social or political groups elbowing for a seat at the table of democracy.

      This is not about a single gang but rather multiple gangs and their collectively destructive behavior on the community as a whole.

      From: Lisa Magnusson <pbspeedo@...>
      To: "EchoElysianNCForum@yahoogroups.com" <EchoElysianNCForum@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 10:00 PM
      Subject: Re: [EchoElysianNCForum] Gang injunction/repost

      Practically speaking, how many crimes committed in Echo Park are directly related to gangs, as opposed to 5 years? How much time do the Echo Park police spend on gang crime today, as opposed to then. Perhaps this would ma bke things more clear, rather than fear. 

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      On Aug 16, 2013, at 9:55 PM, Trey Baskett <gcbthree@...> wrote:

      It has come to my attention there might some misunderstanding about the value of the pending gang injunctions here in the Echo Park area. Make no mistake about it, a gang injunction is one of the most effective tools available to law enforcement to protect communities and save lives...everybody's lives. Every living, breathing form of life, human or otherwise, within the safety zone and beyond will be safer and healthier. It's a demonstrated fact.
      Street gangs of today's type are essentially classified as unincorporated, criminal organizations as defined in California Penal Code Section 186.20.
      A broader take on that penal code section covering gangs can be found here:

      Pay particular attention to the list of crimes undertaken by criminal gangs in furtherance of their goals, often referred to as the Dirty 33:
      (1) Assault with a deadly weapon or by means of force likely to produce great bodily injury, as defined in Section 245.   
      (2) Robbery, as defined in Chapter 4 (commencing with Section 211) of Title 8 of Part 1.   
      (3) Unlawful homicide or manslaughter, as defined in Chapter 1 (commencing with Section 187) of Title 8 of Part 1.   
      (4) The sale, possession for sale, transportation, manufacture, offer for sale, or offer to manufacture controlled substances as defined in Sections 11054, 11055, 11056, 11057, and 11058 of the Health and Safety Code.   
      (5) Shooting at an inhabited dwelling or occupied motor vehicle, as defined in Section 246.   
      (6) Discharging or permitting the discharge of a firearm from a motor vehicle, as defined in subdivisions (a) and (b) of Section 12034 until January 1, 2012, and, on or after that date, subdivisions (a) and (b) of Section 26100.   
      (7) Arson, as defined in Chapter 1 (commencing with Section 450) of Title 13.   
      (8) The intimidation of witnesses and victims, as defined in Section 136.1.   
      (9) Grand theft, as defined in subdivision (a) or (c) of Section 487.   
      (10) Grand theft of any firearm, vehicle, trailer, or vessel.   
      (11) Burglary, as defined in Section 459.   
      (12) Rape, as defined in Section 261.   
      (13) Looting, as defined in Section 463.   
      (14) Money laundering, as defined in Section 186.10.   
      (15) Kidnapping, as defined in Section 207.   
      (16) Mayhem, as defined in Section 203.   
      (17) Aggravated mayhem, as defined in Section 205.   
      (18) Torture, as defined in Section 206.   
      (19) Felony extortion, as defined in Sections 518 and 520.   
      (20) Felony vandalism, as defined in paragraph (1) of subdivision (b) of Section 594.   
      (21) Carjacking, as defined in Section 215.   
      (22) The sale, delivery, or transfer of a firearm, as defined in Section 12072 until January 1, 2012, and, on or after that date, Article 1 (commencing with Section 27500) of Chapter 4 of Division 6 of Title 4 of Part 6.   
      (23) Possession of a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person in violation of paragraph (1) of subdivision (a) of Section 12101 until January 1, 2012, and, on or after that date, Section 29610.   
      (24) Threats to commit crimes resulting in death or great bodily injury, as defined in Section 422.   
      (25) Theft and unlawful taking or driving of a vehicle, as defined in Section 10851 of the Vehicle Code.   
      (26) Felony theft of an access card or account information, as defined in Section 484e.   
      (27) Counterfeiting, designing, using, or attempting to use an access card, as defined in Section 484f.   
      (28) Felony fraudulent use of an access card or account information, as defined in Section 484g.   
      (29) Unlawful use of personal identifying information to obtain credit, goods, services, or medical information, as defined in Section 530.5.

      (30) Wrongfully obtaining Department of Motor Vehicles documentation, as defined in Section 529.7.   
      (31) Prohibited possession of a firearm in violation of Section 12021 until January 1, 2012, and on or after that date, Chapter 2 (commencing with Section 29800) of Division 9 of Title 4 of Part 6.   
      (32) Carrying a concealed firearm in violation of Section 12025 until January 1, 2012, and, on or after that date, Section 25400.   
      (33) Carrying a loaded firearm in violation of Section 12031 until January 1, 2012, and, on or after that date, Section 25850.
      Collectively or individually, every single one of the gangs and many of their members, to be impacted by this latest injunction, have verifiable demonstrated histories of the perpetration of some or all of these crimes within the community decade after decade after decade. These are not insignificant crimes. Blood has run in the streets of LA for too long. It has to stop. These gangsters are calculating and commit many of the above crimes by design and with intention. 
      The great thing about injunctions is that they criminalize what some might consider INSIGNIFICANT behavior, which, in turn gives police and prosecutors tools to prevent SIGNIFICANT violent and destructive crimes by documented gang members. Identification and documentation of gang affiliation is not an arbitrary process and police officers receive ongoing training in ord

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