Yet another bit from the moot
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From: wilhelmvonpottruff <ross.weaver@...>
Date: Dec 7, 2005 10:29 PM
Subject: [schermo] Additions to the minutes
I would like to suggest the following additions to the minutes.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, argh@c... wrote:
> 1) Peerless prizes- in particular the Provost level
> Alan: What happened at the beginning of the EAOD, there was a time
with there were no levels?
> Cristabell W: When EAOD started, people decided for themselves what
rank they should start at, and it was mutually
In addition we did fight prizes against all those that where
attempting the same rank. The only one who didn't was Cerdic and he
fought against all the Free Scholars for his Provost prize.
> Wilhelm: There are 3 Free scholars on the cusp of going to
Provost, Archibald, Giovanni and Albrect, they should just
> fight each other.
Actually I said there are 3 to 5. I also included myself, Wilhelm, as
one of the potential Provosts.
> Wilhelm: Documentation of research is important to these
projects. These projects are meant to further the knowledge
> of rapier in our period, but our sources of knowledge are often
translations of period materials and all translations
> inherently have a bias.
Okay this strays a little from what I wanted to say.
I was saying that we have to consider the sources when looking at
research projects. Basing a project on secondary sources only is not
as good a project as one that refers to primary sources in my
As an example; someone teaching a class based on William Wilson's
book is not a good project for an EAoD research project. But a
lecture comparing his book to the period sources he used and looking
at other possible interpretations is a good project. Basically the
project should involve some thought based on information taken from
> Wilhelm: Perhaps we should wait for concrete consequences of bad
>behaviour eg stripped of a Peerage, an Office
My point was a little larger than this. The EAoD was set up as it is
to avoid as many qualitative judgement calls as possible. This is
because we wanted to avoid the problems that some kingdoms had with
recognition where because the individuals making the judgement call
do not like the candidate personally the person is not recognized,
yet to everyone else they are qualified and deserving of the
If the EAoD starts making that judgement call about members we start
moving down that treacherous path very quickly. But there are other
parts of the SCA that are there to make that judgement call.
Marshals are expected to call fencers on poor behaviour, such as
ignoring shots, or calling the shots on your opponent for them. If
it is bad enough to warrant punishment (suspension, or being banned)
the person should have their EAoD rank revoked. The examples
of "stripped of
Peerage or Office" were the most extreme possibilities.
THL Wilhelm von Pottruff
Free Scholar of the EAoD
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