Re: [E_Rapier] Re: Letter about gorgets...
- On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 4:11 PM, John Enzinas <jenzinas@...> wrote:
> Wilhelm, is this the gorget with the (iirc) 3" wide plates at theThat is the Gorget, I don't have any pictures unfortunately.
> front and back and nothing else rigid? If not, how have you changed
> Do you have any pictures of it online so that people can see what you
> are talking about?
> Why are you comfortable taking a heavy rapier thrust to the side of
> the neck, but not a blow in cut and thrust?
The reason I'm more concerned about C&T is the nature of the blow and
physics. In regular rapier the energy of the shot is dispersed over a
larger area, the blunt, creating less force than in C&T because the energy
from a percussive blow with the edge creates is more force involved
typically (remember on the side of the neck a C&T shot is only at most
likely to contact about 5 cm length of the blade, likely less). Another
thing to note is I find the above calibration shots usually occur from those
sword held high falling down to opponent's head/sholder shots or something
smiliar. As well in C&T a lot more of the shots come down from above
towards the shoulder/neck versus heavy rapier where most shots in that
region will be face/throat/chest. So in C&T the probability of injury is
higher due to increased force, and far more shots will be landing in that
area. Which means the risk in C&T is much higher.
In C&T I have found my hands, my head, neck and shoulders are more at risk,
so I'm going to armour them up more.
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- On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 3:18 PM, M <menzinas@...> wrote:
>> > I can't go around strangling members of my Barony! For any reason. Even educational ones.hmm... oh yeah, both cards are blue!
>> You don't have to strangle him to death, just a little demonstration.
> That is the 'Society for Consenting Adults' not 'Society for Creative Anacronism' don't get them confused.
> How about a mythbuster's approch? Put the gorget(s) on a dummy and wack the dummy with a sword?While lots of dummys are available, finding a way to simulate the neck
underneath is harder.
> ps wanna wrestle?Sure :-) Though my impression is that you're learning to fight,
unlike judo which is very much a sport.