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  • Yvonne
    GERMAN LONG SWORD CLASS FOR ARMORED & CUT +THRUST COMBATANTS @ A&S WHAT: A German Long Sword Class for both armoured & Cut +Thrust combatants. Techniques
    Message 1 of 9 , Oct 3, 2009
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      GERMAN LONG SWORD CLASS FOR ARMORED & CUT +THRUST COMBATANTS @ A&S

      WHAT:

      A German Long Sword Class for both armoured & Cut +Thrust combatants. Techniques translate to great sword and cut + thrust. Class is 90 mins long. Participants must bring their own weapons and armour. Registration is limited to 16 combatants of either Armoured and Cut + Thrust, opening on Oct 13th, first come, first serve.

      To ask questions prior to the 13th, email Jocelyn Cranwall at tamlin01@...

      To register, AFTER Oct 13th, email Jocelyn Cranwall at tamlin01@..., or see her at the rapier list of both Huntsman's Harvest and Crown Tournament.

      WHERE:
      At Kingdom A&S, Site is at the New Hamburg Arena, 251 Jacob St., New Hamburg

      WHEN:
      10:30AM Sharp, on the rapier list

      HOW:
      Sponsored by The Ealdormere Academy of Defence

      WHO:
      Class will be taught by Baron Giovanni di Fiamma of Trimaris / Dr. William Ernoehazy Jr., MD, FACEP

      In the SCA he is Baron Giovanni di Fiamma is a Florentine physician, polymath, and scholar of defense. His recent studies have led him north, to Milan, the Germanies, and the Confederation. In the SCA, he has served both the Caidan and Trimarian Crowns as Queen's Champion, served as the second Deputy Society Marshal for Rapier, and is currently Their Majesties Trimaris' Kingdom Rapier Marshal. He is a Companion of the Order of Duellist, Caid, and of the Order of the White Scarf, Trimaris. He lives in Castlemere, Trimaris.

      Mundanely: Dr. William Ernoehazy Jr., MD, FACEP, is an emergency medicine specialist in northeast Florida. He has been an expert witness in several criminal trials dealing with emergency medicine, trauma, and strangulation. "Dr. Bill" is also an avid martial artist, who has studied classical saber and aikido; he currently practices and studies the Fechtkunst, and is a member of the board of directors for the Tattershall School of Defense. An avid science fiction fan, De Doc often attends Worldcons, DragonCon, and the occasional relaxicon. He is also a Naval veteran, a pistol expert, and a past NASA/University Of Florida Physician Affiliate for Shuttle launch operations. Following Steven Brust's example, he hopes to get some sleep Real Soon Now.

      NOTE:
      Many pardon's, I am posting this to every list I am currently on as I am not on the Ealdoromere list. If this could be passed to it by the kind gentles who read such lists I would be gratefull

      Jocelyn Cranwall
      Preceptor of the EAOD
    • Eve Harris & David Stamper
      You re trying to kill me, aren t you? :-) Albrecht _____ From: E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Yvonne Sent: October 3,
      Message 2 of 9 , Oct 3, 2009
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        You're trying to kill me, aren't you? :-)





        Albrecht



        _____

        From: E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
        Of Yvonne
        Sent: October 3, 2009 9:07 AM
        To: E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [E_Rapier] GERMAN LONG SWORD CLASS FOR ARMORED & CUT +THRUST
        COMBATANTS @ A&S





        GERMAN LONG SWORD CLASS FOR ARMORED & CUT +THRUST COMBATANTS @ A&S

        WHAT:

        A German Long Sword Class for both armoured & Cut +Thrust combatants.
        Techniques translate to great sword and cut + thrust. Class is 90 mins long.
        Participants must bring their own weapons and armour. Registration is
        limited to 16 combatants of either Armoured and Cut + Thrust, opening on Oct
        13th, first come, first serve.

        To ask questions prior to the 13th, email Jocelyn Cranwall at
        tamlin01@hotmail. <mailto:tamlin01%40hotmail.com> com

        To register, AFTER Oct 13th, email Jocelyn Cranwall at tamlin01@hotmail.
        <mailto:tamlin01%40hotmail.com> com, or see her at the rapier list of both
        Huntsman's Harvest and Crown Tournament.

        WHERE:
        At Kingdom A&S, Site is at the New Hamburg Arena, 251 Jacob St., New Hamburg


        WHEN:
        10:30AM Sharp, on the rapier list

        HOW:
        Sponsored by The Ealdormere Academy of Defence

        WHO:
        Class will be taught by Baron Giovanni di Fiamma of Trimaris / Dr. William
        Ernoehazy Jr., MD, FACEP

        In the SCA he is Baron Giovanni di Fiamma is a Florentine physician,
        polymath, and scholar of defense. His recent studies have led him north, to
        Milan, the Germanies, and the Confederation. In the SCA, he has served both
        the Caidan and Trimarian Crowns as Queen's Champion, served as the second
        Deputy Society Marshal for Rapier, and is currently Their Majesties
        Trimaris' Kingdom Rapier Marshal. He is a Companion of the Order of
        Duellist, Caid, and of the Order of the White Scarf, Trimaris. He lives in
        Castlemere, Trimaris.

        Mundanely: Dr. William Ernoehazy Jr., MD, FACEP, is an emergency medicine
        specialist in northeast Florida. He has been an expert witness in several
        criminal trials dealing with emergency medicine, trauma, and strangulation.
        "Dr. Bill" is also an avid martial artist, who has studied classical saber
        and aikido; he currently practices and studies the Fechtkunst, and is a
        member of the board of directors for the Tattershall School of Defense. An
        avid science fiction fan, De Doc often attends Worldcons, DragonCon, and the
        occasional relaxicon. He is also a Naval veteran, a pistol expert, and a
        past NASA/University Of Florida Physician Affiliate for Shuttle launch
        operations. Following Steven Brust's example, he hopes to get some sleep
        Real Soon Now.

        NOTE:
        Many pardon's, I am posting this to every list I am currently on as I am not
        on the Ealdoromere list. If this could be passed to it by the kind gentles
        who read such lists I would be gratefull

        Jocelyn Cranwall
        Preceptor of the EAOD





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      • Ross Weaver
        I m concerned about the scheduling of the day. Having all 4 combatants fight the timed trial and their 40 bouts will easily take 3 hours at least. As well if
        Message 3 of 9 , Oct 3, 2009
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          I'm concerned about the scheduling of the day. Having all 4
          combatants fight the timed trial and their 40 bouts will easily take 3
          hours at least. As well if you want the candidates to present/teach
          their research even concurrently plan 1.5 hours. So the minimum
          required time is 4.5 hours, which is easily 6 hours if we include the
          usual interruptions and time to eat a lunch...

          ~Wilhelm

          On 10/3/09, Yvonne <tamlin_01@...> wrote:
          > GERMAN LONG SWORD CLASS FOR ARMORED & CUT +THRUST COMBATANTS @ A&S
          >
          > WHAT:
          >
          > A German Long Sword Class for both armoured & Cut +Thrust combatants.
          > Techniques translate to great sword and cut + thrust. Class is 90 mins
          > long. Participants must bring their own weapons and armour. Registration is
          > limited to 16 combatants of either Armoured and Cut + Thrust, opening on
          > Oct 13th, first come, first serve.
          >
          > To ask questions prior to the 13th, email Jocelyn Cranwall at
          > tamlin01@...
          >
          > To register, AFTER Oct 13th, email Jocelyn Cranwall at tamlin01@...,
          > or see her at the rapier list of both Huntsman's Harvest and Crown
          > Tournament.
          >
          > WHERE:
          > At Kingdom A&S, Site is at the New Hamburg Arena, 251 Jacob St., New Hamburg
          >
          > WHEN:
          > 10:30AM Sharp, on the rapier list
          >
          > HOW:
          > Sponsored by The Ealdormere Academy of Defence
          >
          > WHO:
          > Class will be taught by Baron Giovanni di Fiamma of Trimaris / Dr. William
          > Ernoehazy Jr., MD, FACEP
          >
          > In the SCA he is Baron Giovanni di Fiamma is a Florentine physician,
          > polymath, and scholar of defense. His recent studies have led him north, to
          > Milan, the Germanies, and the Confederation. In the SCA, he has served both
          > the Caidan and Trimarian Crowns as Queen's Champion, served as the second
          > Deputy Society Marshal for Rapier, and is currently Their Majesties
          > Trimaris' Kingdom Rapier Marshal. He is a Companion of the Order of
          > Duellist, Caid, and of the Order of the White Scarf, Trimaris. He lives in
          > Castlemere, Trimaris.
          >
          > Mundanely: Dr. William Ernoehazy Jr., MD, FACEP, is an emergency medicine
          > specialist in northeast Florida. He has been an expert witness in several
          > criminal trials dealing with emergency medicine, trauma, and strangulation.
          > "Dr. Bill" is also an avid martial artist, who has studied classical saber
          > and aikido; he currently practices and studies the Fechtkunst, and is a
          > member of the board of directors for the Tattershall School of Defense. An
          > avid science fiction fan, De Doc often attends Worldcons, DragonCon, and the
          > occasional relaxicon. He is also a Naval veteran, a pistol expert, and a
          > past NASA/University Of Florida Physician Affiliate for Shuttle launch
          > operations. Following Steven Brust's example, he hopes to get some sleep
          > Real Soon Now.
          >
          > NOTE:
          > Many pardon's, I am posting this to every list I am currently on as I am not
          > on the Ealdoromere list. If this could be passed to it by the kind gentles
          > who read such lists I would be gratefull
          >
          > Jocelyn Cranwall
          > Preceptor of the EAOD
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >

          --
          Sent from my mobile device
        • patchett
          Hi all from the autocrat, 1) The EAOD has a dedicated list field for the day. There is no formal feast, so the only need to stop is during court. That leaves
          Message 4 of 9 , Oct 4, 2009
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            Hi all from the autocrat,

            1) The EAOD has a dedicated list field for the day. There is no formal
            feast, so the only need to stop is during court. That leaves lots and
            lots of time.

            2) I cannot believe that you would need 3 hours to fight 40 fights. The
            Crown tourney that Edward won had 600 fights in just about 4 hours.
            Duke Aaron himself fought over 300 fights in 8 hours each of 3 days at
            Pennsic when he did his 1000 fights. To fight 40 fights in 3 hours
            means each fight is around 4 minutes each. That boogles my mind, but if
            you need that much time, it's available.

            Rylyn

            Ross Weaver wrote:
            > I'm concerned about the scheduling of the day. Having all 4
            > combatants fight the timed trial and their 40 bouts will easily take 3
            > hours at least. As well if you want the candidates to present/teach
            > their research even concurrently plan 1.5 hours. So the minimum
            > required time is 4.5 hours, which is easily 6 hours if we include the
            > usual interruptions and time to eat a lunch...
            >
            > ~Wilhelm
            >
            >
            >
          • Ross Weaver
            ... I assume that the dedicated rapier list the long sword is being taughtin is the same list as the EAOD has? Please correct me if I wrong. If it is the
            Message 5 of 9 , Oct 4, 2009
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              > 1) The EAOD has a dedicated list field for the day. There is no formal
              > feast, so the only need to stop is during court. That leaves lots and
              > lots of time.
              I assume that the dedicated rapier list the long sword is being
              taughtin is the same list as the EAOD has? Please correct me if I
              wrong. If it is the same list this means that the EAOD trials cannot
              begin until noon, which is a good time to start. I know I want at
              least 15-20 minutes to warm up, get ready to fight the other
              candidates, and I assume they would as well, so 12:30 is the earliest
              start time for the trials.

              I'm also assuming we have only space for one bout at a time. Rapier
              needs a larger list that armoured combat. If it is a small list I
              don't mind, I have the advantage then, because out of all the
              combatants, I'm the smallest.

              > 2) I cannot believe that you would need 3 hours to fight 40 fights. The
              > Crown tourney that Edward won had 600 fights in just about 4 hours.
              > Duke Aaron himself fought over 300 fights in 8 hours each of 3 days at
              > Pennsic when he did his 1000 fights. To fight 40 fights in 3 hours
              > means each fight is around 4 minutes each. That boogles my mind, but if
              > you need that much time, it's available.
              Assuming there is one list. There are 4 candidates that must fight 40
              bouts each. That is a minimum of 100 bouts for the entire counted
              trials, at 3 minutes a piece on average (lets assume weapon changes
              and equipment fixes fits into 3 min average). We are looking at 300
              minutes, 5 hours total, if there is one list and everything goes
              smoothly, for the counted bouts. Then 15 minutes a candidate to hold
              the field against all comers adds 1 hour. That is 6 hours of fighting
              and that is everything going well.

              Plus the candidates have been asked to teach/present their research
              projects. Even there if we all do it concurrently we need say 1.5
              hours for project time as well. I could do mine at the same time as
              the long sword class, but I need active space as well to teach Saviolo
              and it would be rude to our guest to have the candidates teaching
              against them. As the teaching has already taken place it doesn't have
              to happen again, that would be easiest way to shorten the process for
              everyone involved.

              Anyhow, just want to make sure everyone involved has thought about the
              amount of time this is all going to take.

              ~Herr Wilhelm
            • Yvonne
              Unto the rapier populace of Ealdomere do I, Jocelyn Cranewell, Preceptor of the Academy send greetings. In resposne to the conscerns respecting list size,
              Message 6 of 9 , Oct 4, 2009
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                Unto the rapier populace of Ealdomere do I, Jocelyn Cranewell, Preceptor of the Academy send greetings.

                In resposne to the conscerns respecting list size, schedule and the classes, be assured there is more then one list space,the schedule for the day will be posted shortly, and the class being offered, from a most generous gentle, travelling from Florida, will not impact the timing of the Provost Prize fights.

                Candidates for the Provost prize, note you will be recieving further information respecting the day, prior to Thanksgiving. Should you have any specifice concerns or questions, you are encouraged to email me directly at tamlin01@....

                In service,
                Jocelyn Cranewall
                Preceptor of the Ealdormere Academy of Defense

                --- In E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com, Ross Weaver <ross.weaver@...> wrote:
                >
                > > 1) The EAOD has a dedicated list field for the day. There is no formal
                > > feast, so the only need to stop is during court. That leaves lots and
                > > lots of time.
                > I assume that the dedicated rapier list the long sword is being
                > taughtin is the same list as the EAOD has? Please correct me if I
                > wrong. If it is the same list this means that the EAOD trials cannot
                > begin until noon, which is a good time to start. I know I want at
                > least 15-20 minutes to warm up, get ready to fight the other
                > candidates, and I assume they would as well, so 12:30 is the earliest
                > start time for the trials.
                >
                > I'm also assuming we have only space for one bout at a time. Rapier
                > needs a larger list that armoured combat. If it is a small list I
                > don't mind, I have the advantage then, because out of all the
                > combatants, I'm the smallest.
                >
                > > 2) I cannot believe that you would need 3 hours to fight 40 fights. The
                > > Crown tourney that Edward won had 600 fights in just about 4 hours.
                > > Duke Aaron himself fought over 300 fights in 8 hours each of 3 days at
                > > Pennsic when he did his 1000 fights. To fight 40 fights in 3 hours
                > > means each fight is around 4 minutes each. That boogles my mind, but if
                > > you need that much time, it's available.
                > Assuming there is one list. There are 4 candidates that must fight 40
                > bouts each. That is a minimum of 100 bouts for the entire counted
                > trials, at 3 minutes a piece on average (lets assume weapon changes
                > and equipment fixes fits into 3 min average). We are looking at 300
                > minutes, 5 hours total, if there is one list and everything goes
                > smoothly, for the counted bouts. Then 15 minutes a candidate to hold
                > the field against all comers adds 1 hour. That is 6 hours of fighting
                > and that is everything going well.
                >
                > Plus the candidates have been asked to teach/present their research
                > projects. Even there if we all do it concurrently we need say 1.5
                > hours for project time as well. I could do mine at the same time as
                > the long sword class, but I need active space as well to teach Saviolo
                > and it would be rude to our guest to have the candidates teaching
                > against them. As the teaching has already taken place it doesn't have
                > to happen again, that would be easiest way to shorten the process for
                > everyone involved.
                >
                > Anyhow, just want to make sure everyone involved has thought about the
                > amount of time this is all going to take.
                >
                > ~Herr Wilhelm
                >
              • John Enzinas
                ... What are the equipment requirements? Giovanni
                Message 7 of 9 , Oct 5, 2009
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                  On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Yvonne <tamlin_01@...> wrote:
                  > GERMAN LONG SWORD CLASS FOR ARMORED & CUT +THRUST COMBATANTS @ A&S
                  >
                  > WHAT:
                  >
                  >  A German Long Sword Class for both armoured & Cut +Thrust combatants.  Techniques translate to great sword and cut + thrust.  Class is 90 mins long.  Participants must bring their own weapons and armour. Registration is limited to 16 combatants of either  Armoured and Cut + Thrust, opening on Oct 13th, first come, first serve.

                  What are the equipment requirements?

                  Giovanni
                • Yvonne
                  Your Excellency, Armor requirements are per the fields from which you decide to play. I am going to try to keep the registration tight so tht we do not get a
                  Message 8 of 9 , Oct 5, 2009
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                    Your Excellency,

                    Armor requirements are per the fields from which you decide to play. I am going to try to keep the registration tight so tht we do not get a C&T partenered with an armored combatant.

                    If you are authorized C&T, that is the armour standard you must come prepared to ...same to Armored combat.

                    I hope that is clear....Anyone else with questions?

                    Jocelyn
                    --- In E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com, John Enzinas <jenzinas@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Yvonne <tamlin_01@...> wrote:
                    > > GERMAN LONG SWORD CLASS FOR ARMORED & CUT +THRUST COMBATANTS @ A&S
                    > >
                    > > WHAT:
                    > >
                    > >  A German Long Sword Class for both armoured & Cut +Thrust combatants.  Techniques translate to great sword and cut + thrust.  Class is 90 mins long.  Participants must bring their own weapons and armour. Registration is limited to 16 combatants of either  Armoured and Cut + Thrust, opening on Oct 13th, first come, first serve.
                    >
                    > What are the equipment requirements?
                    >
                    > Giovanni
                    >
                  • Yvonne
                    To all, Apologies, I was to issue this information prior to Thanksgiving..I unfortunately gave into Turkey sickeness..THis informaton wil be out shorlty
                    Message 9 of 9 , Oct 13, 2009
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                      To all,

                      Apologies, I was to issue this information prior to Thanksgiving..I unfortunately gave into Turkey sickeness..THis informaton wil be out shorlty

                      Jocelyn

                      --- In E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com, "Yvonne" <tamlin_01@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > Unto the rapier populace of Ealdomere do I, Jocelyn Cranewell, Preceptor of the Academy send greetings.
                      >
                      > In resposne to the conscerns respecting list size, schedule and the classes, be assured there is more then one list space,the schedule for the day will be posted shortly, and the class being offered, from a most generous gentle, travelling from Florida, will not impact the timing of the Provost Prize fights.
                      >
                      > Candidates for the Provost prize, note you will be recieving further information respecting the day, prior to Thanksgiving. Should you have any specifice concerns or questions, you are encouraged to email me directly at tamlin01@...
                      >
                      > In service,
                      > Jocelyn Cranewall
                      > Preceptor of the Ealdormere Academy of Defense
                      >
                      > --- In E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com, Ross Weaver <ross.weaver@> wrote:
                      > >
                      > > > 1) The EAOD has a dedicated list field for the day. There is no formal
                      > > > feast, so the only need to stop is during court. That leaves lots and
                      > > > lots of time.
                      > > I assume that the dedicated rapier list the long sword is being
                      > > taughtin is the same list as the EAOD has? Please correct me if I
                      > > wrong. If it is the same list this means that the EAOD trials cannot
                      > > begin until noon, which is a good time to start. I know I want at
                      > > least 15-20 minutes to warm up, get ready to fight the other
                      > > candidates, and I assume they would as well, so 12:30 is the earliest
                      > > start time for the trials.
                      > >
                      > > I'm also assuming we have only space for one bout at a time. Rapier
                      > > needs a larger list that armoured combat. If it is a small list I
                      > > don't mind, I have the advantage then, because out of all the
                      > > combatants, I'm the smallest.
                      > >
                      > > > 2) I cannot believe that you would need 3 hours to fight 40 fights. The
                      > > > Crown tourney that Edward won had 600 fights in just about 4 hours.
                      > > > Duke Aaron himself fought over 300 fights in 8 hours each of 3 days at
                      > > > Pennsic when he did his 1000 fights. To fight 40 fights in 3 hours
                      > > > means each fight is around 4 minutes each. That boogles my mind, but if
                      > > > you need that much time, it's available.
                      > > Assuming there is one list. There are 4 candidates that must fight 40
                      > > bouts each. That is a minimum of 100 bouts for the entire counted
                      > > trials, at 3 minutes a piece on average (lets assume weapon changes
                      > > and equipment fixes fits into 3 min average). We are looking at 300
                      > > minutes, 5 hours total, if there is one list and everything goes
                      > > smoothly, for the counted bouts. Then 15 minutes a candidate to hold
                      > > the field against all comers adds 1 hour. That is 6 hours of fighting
                      > > and that is everything going well.
                      > >
                      > > Plus the candidates have been asked to teach/present their research
                      > > projects. Even there if we all do it concurrently we need say 1.5
                      > > hours for project time as well. I could do mine at the same time as
                      > > the long sword class, but I need active space as well to teach Saviolo
                      > > and it would be rude to our guest to have the candidates teaching
                      > > against them. As the teaching has already taken place it doesn't have
                      > > to happen again, that would be easiest way to shorten the process for
                      > > everyone involved.
                      > >
                      > > Anyhow, just want to make sure everyone involved has thought about the
                      > > amount of time this is all going to take.
                      > >
                      > > ~Herr Wilhelm
                      > >
                      >
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