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RE: [E_Rapier] linen

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  • kgarlow@sympatico.ca
    OMG! Yes, it is that time again, isn t it! Thanks for the reminder Eyrny! (my husband is shaking his head) Not to disagree but I would find that in most
    Message 1 of 11 , Jul 2, 2009
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      OMG! Yes, it is that time again, isn't it! Thanks for the reminder Eyrny! (my husband is shaking his head)



      Not to disagree but I would find that in most cases, 4 layers is a bit excessive. Take your proposed armor fabric, wash it and then have it punch tested with various layers to see what you really need. It will vary as much as the weave of the fabric of choice and the weave of 100% linen will tend to tighten a bit with washing. Generally speaking, the tighter the weave, the fewer layers required. I have a 100% linen that's passing the punch test easily with just 2 layers.



      Test first, then sew!



      Cainder

      who's hoping to catch the fabric sales!
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      Kelly Wyatt
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      To: E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com; Ealdormere@yahoogroups.com
      From: kgormanshaw@...
      Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 07:01:07 -0700
      Subject: [E_Rapier] linen








      Linen is 100% natural fibre and breathes wonderfully, 3-4 layers usually makes great rapier armour. Fabricland is starting their spring/summer clearance sales, it's a good time to check them out. Read the bolts carefully though, they'll put 100% linen with cotton-linen and linen-rayon blends on the same table.

      Eyrny









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    • Kathleen Gormanshaw
      ... I know 3 layers will usually pass, but I want mine to pass in 2 years as well, and still get washed regularly, so we usually go with 4.  A balance of
      Message 2 of 11 , Jul 2, 2009
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        ----- Original Message ----
        > Not to disagree but I would find that in most cases, 4 layers is a bit
        > excessive. Take your proposed armor fabric, wash it and then have it punch

        I know 3 layers will usually pass, but I want mine to pass in 2 years as well, and still get washed regularly, so we usually go with 4.  A balance of priorities  :-)

        Eyrny
      • Yvonne Rogers
        I ve tried punching a 100% linen, 4 layer swatch and had it fail...what Weave? Thread count? are you all using? Jocelyn
        Message 3 of 11 , Jul 2, 2009
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          I've tried punching a 100% linen, 4 layer swatch and had it fail...what Weave? Thread count? are you all using?
          Jocelyn

          --- In E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com, Kathleen Gormanshaw <kgormanshaw@...> wrote:
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          > ----- Original Message ----
          > > Not to disagree but I would find that in most cases, 4 layers is a bit
          > > excessive. Take your proposed armor fabric, wash it and then have it punch
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          > I know 3 layers will usually pass, but I want mine to pass in 2 years as well, and still get washed regularly, so we usually go with 4.  A balance of priorities  :-)
          >
          > Eyrny
          >
        • Wendy Colbert
          Look here: http://www.fabrics-store.com/first.php?goto=showarticles&menu=f&article=1 Fabric-store.com ilo19 has always passed the drop test with 3 layers,
          Message 4 of 11 , Jul 2, 2009
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            Look here:
            http://www.fabrics-store.com/first.php?goto=showarticles&menu=f&article=1
            Fabric-store.com ilo19 has always passed the drop test with 3 layers, sometimes it will even pass with 2 layers.
            Irene



            -----Original Message-----
            From: Yvonne Rogers
            Sent: Jul 2, 2009 4:58 PM
            To: E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: [E_Rapier] Re: linen


            I've tried punching a 100% linen, 4 layer swatch and had it fail...what Weave? Thread count? are you all using?
            Jocelyn

            --- In E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com, Kathleen Gormanshaw <kgormanshaw@...> wrote:
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          • Yvonne Rogers
            Irene, YOu are a goddess. I still owe you 3 skanes of spun wool. DO I have penance to pay or a reprev until next spring? Please let me know. Cheers, Jocelyne
            Message 5 of 11 , Jul 3, 2009
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              Irene,

              YOu are a goddess. I still owe you 3 skanes of spun wool. DO I have penance to pay or a reprev until next spring?

              Please let me know.

              Cheers,
              Jocelyne

              --- In E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com, Wendy Colbert <rapierlady@...> wrote:
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              > Look here:
              > http://www.fabrics-store.com/first.php?goto=showarticles&menu=f&article=1
              > Fabric-store.com ilo19 has always passed the drop test with 3 layers, sometimes it will even pass with 2 layers.
              > Irene
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              > -----Original Message-----
              > From: Yvonne Rogers
              > Sent: Jul 2, 2009 4:58 PM
              > To: E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com
              > Subject: [E_Rapier] Re: linen
              >
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              > I've tried punching a 100% linen, 4 layer swatch and had it fail...what Weave? Thread count? are you all using?
              > Jocelyn
              >
              > --- In E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com, Kathleen Gormanshaw <kgormanshaw@> wrote:
              > >
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              > Come visit my esty shop StringsNstrands StringsNstrands.etsy.com
              > for fiber goodies and handcrafted Montessori materials
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            • Wendy Colbert
              You don t owe me any skeins of yarn. But if you want to visit and spin with me some time I would love it. Irene ... From: Yvonne Rogers Sent: Jul 3, 2009 7:54
              Message 6 of 11 , Jul 3, 2009
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                You don't owe me any skeins of yarn. But if you want to visit and spin with me some time I would love it.
                Irene

                -----Original Message-----
                From: Yvonne Rogers
                Sent: Jul 3, 2009 7:54 AM
                To: E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: [E_Rapier] Re: linen


                Irene,

                YOu are a goddess. I still owe you 3 skanes of spun wool. DO I have penance to pay or a reprev until next spring?

                Please let me know.

                Cheers,
                Jocelyne



                Come visit my esty shop StringsNstrands StringsNstrands.etsy.com
                for fiber goodies and handcrafted Montessori materials
              • kgarlow@sympatico.ca
                Frankly, I m not certain where my linen came from. Cait picked up a great group deal and a half dozen or so of us got some about 2 years ago. I don t even
                Message 7 of 11 , Jul 3, 2009
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                  Frankly, I'm not certain where my linen came from. Cait picked up a great group deal and a half dozen or so of us got some about 2 years ago. I don't even remember what I paid for it, only that it was way more reasonable than it would have been bought locally. I got a bolt of a pale sagey green and about 10 yards of the yummiest orangey red. One day I'll get off my butt and actually sew something with them.



                  Cainder

                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^
                  Kelly Wyatt
                  k.wyatt59@...
                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^






                  To: E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com
                  From: tamlin_01@...
                  Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 20:58:24 +0000
                  Subject: [E_Rapier] Re: linen







                  I've tried punching a 100% linen, 4 layer swatch and had it fail...what Weave? Thread count? are you all using?
                  Jocelyn

                  --- In E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com, Kathleen Gormanshaw <kgormanshaw@...> wrote:
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                  > ----- Original Message ----
                  > > Not to disagree but I would find that in most cases, 4 layers is a bit
                  > > excessive. Take your proposed armor fabric, wash it and then have it punch
                  >
                  > I know 3 layers will usually pass, but I want mine to pass in 2 years as well, and still get washed regularly, so we usually go with 4. A balance of priorities :-)
                  >
                  > Eyrny
                  >










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                • Kathleen Gormanshaw
                  Is that the stuff you were supposed to bring yesterday for testing?  :-P I ve used Judy Linen, which is a brand name, and a lot of Fabricland s standard
                  Message 8 of 11 , Jul 5, 2009
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                    Is that the stuff you were supposed to bring yesterday for testing?  :-P

                    I've used Judy Linen, which is a brand name, and a lot of Fabricland's "standard" shirt weight.  I haven't seen a weave or threadcount on it.  Perhaps we should review use of the drop tester?

                    Eyrny



                    ----- Original Message ----
                    > From: Yvonne Rogers <tamlin_01@...>
                    > To: E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com
                    > Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 4:58:24 PM
                    > Subject: [E_Rapier] Re: linen
                    >
                    > I've tried punching a 100% linen, 4 layer swatch and had it fail...what Weave?
                    > Thread count? are you all using?
                    > Jocelyn
                    >
                    > --- In E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com, Kathleen Gormanshaw wrote:
                    > >
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                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > ----- Original Message ----
                    > > > Not to disagree but I would find that in most cases, 4 layers is a bit
                    > > > excessive. Take your proposed armor fabric, wash it and then have it punch
                    > >
                    > > I know 3 layers will usually pass, but I want mine to pass in 2 years as well,
                    > and still get washed regularly, so we usually go with 4.  A balance of
                    > priorities  :-)
                    > >
                    > > Eyrny
                    > >
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                    > Yahoo! Groups Links
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                  • Yvonne Rogers
                    Grr..I had my linen at Trillium to.. Sigh..agreed that drop tester use review is a good thing. Not this Thursday though,..ah hmm.. alternate date is not
                    Message 9 of 11 , Jul 6, 2009
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                      Grr..I had my linen at Trillium to.. Sigh..agreed that drop tester use review is a good thing. Not this Thursday though,..ah hmm.. alternate date is not coming to mind before Pennsic...

                      JOcelyn

                      --- In E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com, Kathleen Gormanshaw <kgormanshaw@...> wrote:
                      >
                      >
                      > Is that the stuff you were supposed to bring yesterday for testing?  :-P
                      >
                      > I've used Judy Linen, which is a brand name, and a lot of Fabricland's "standard" shirt weight.  I haven't seen a weave or threadcount on it.  Perhaps we should review use of the drop tester?
                      >
                      > Eyrny
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      > ----- Original Message ----
                      > > From: Yvonne Rogers <tamlin_01@...>
                      > > To: E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com
                      > > Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 4:58:24 PM
                      > > Subject: [E_Rapier] Re: linen
                      > >
                      > > I've tried punching a 100% linen, 4 layer swatch and had it fail...what Weave?
                      > > Thread count? are you all using?
                      > > Jocelyn
                      > >
                      > > --- In E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com, Kathleen Gormanshaw wrote:
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > ----- Original Message ----
                      > > > > Not to disagree but I would find that in most cases, 4 layers is a bit
                      > > > > excessive. Take your proposed armor fabric, wash it and then have it punch
                      > > >
                      > > > I know 3 layers will usually pass, but I want mine to pass in 2 years as well,
                      > > and still get washed regularly, so we usually go with 4.  A balance of
                      > > priorities  :-)
                      > > >
                      > > > Eyrny
                      > > >
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                      > > Yahoo! Groups Links
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                    • Wendy Colbert
                      Would you like a swatch of the ILO19 linen that I use? If so how large a swatch? Irene ... From: Yvonne Rogers Sent: Jul 6, 2009 7:24 AM To:
                      Message 10 of 11 , Jul 6, 2009
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                        Would you like a swatch of the ILO19 linen that I use? If so how large a swatch?
                        Irene

                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: Yvonne Rogers
                        Sent: Jul 6, 2009 7:24 AM
                        To: E_Rapier@yahoogroups.com
                        Subject: [E_Rapier] Re: linen


                        Grr..I had my linen at Trillium to.. Sigh..agreed that drop tester use review is a good thing. Not this Thursday though,..ah hmm.. alternate date is not coming to mind before Pennsic...

                        JOcelyn



                        Come visit my esty shop StringsNstrands StringsNstrands.etsy.com
                        for fiber goodies and handcrafted Montessori materials
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