Re: [DragonSeedLegacy] Re: Chinese in America
- Ah Jieming,
Thanks for long answer. I not expect you to talk about yourself, but thanks for answer.
kitmengleong <kmleong@...> wrote:
No I haven't read the book. I'll look it up in the library or
bookstore and pick one up to read. Thanks for the recommendation.
Why do the Chinese prefer to settle in other countries instead of
staying in China? I believe it's not limited to just the Chinese.
Many people of other cultures do the same too. Basically they are
looking for a better life than the one they left behind. Often when
a person migrates, it is often because they want a change, a chance
to grow. Going to another place helps this by allowing a complete
break from the expectations that a person grows up with.
Take for example, a young adult growing up in England, who attended
a public school, have friends who drink at the local pub every
saturday, has a father who works in the town's main industrial plant
together with some of his friend's and neighbor's fathers. So his
person, is seen by his society to be another one of them. He is
expected to fit in and "join" the rest of them and what they do. Of
course he might break free of this to pursue a dream, becoming
something other than his peers, but the social pressures to conform
will always be there. His mother may nag him for not being sensible
and following in his father's footsteps to work in the local
industry, his friends may jeer at him for not joining them at the
regular bar to drink every week, his girlfriend expects him to be
just like her dad and to live a "normal" life.
Now if you allow this person to go to a new place. What happens?
He is suddenly free of the expectations, free of the social
responsibilities and free to be whatever his want to be. He can be
loud, or soft-spoken, aggressive or passive, eccentric or normal...
it becomes his choice. This is simply because a new place does not
place the same kind of expectations on him. The people in the new
place would see a strange person and not know what to expect from
him. This creates a void in expections which he can then fill,
defining himself as he goes along, basically telling people what he
want them to expect of him.
I hope I am making sense to you. I know this first hand because
this is how I felt when I went overseas to Canada to study.
Suddenly, I found myself in a strange place, where people were
different and things I was used to were no longer around. In such a
situation, a person tends to go two ways, becoming more conservative
and clinging tightly to his own culture/beliefs and hence
subconsciously rejecting the new culture of the new place, or the
person would learn to embrace the change and freedom of not having
to conform to society expectations. There was no need to follow the
old culture because no one would say anything if you didn't, yet at
the same time, there was also little pressure to follow the new
culture because everyone knew you were from another country and
didn't expect you to be the same as them. Left in the middle
without a need to go either way, you were free to be who ever you
wanted to be and the people around you would have to accept you as
you were simple because they had no other frame of reference.
Hehehe, ok that was fairly long but this is although not the full
reason, at least a major part of the reason why many people who go
overseas always finds "The Grass is Greener on the Other Side".
--- In DragonSeedLegacy@yahoogroups.com, Alessandro Ranieri
> Jieming,Chang? It talk about all the times when Chinese in China, Hong Kong
> Have you read a book called "The Chinese in America" by Iris
and Taiwan left to move to U.S. It very interesting. I would
recommend to you.
>they have no desire to return to China. Even the first Chinese who
> In the book, the author suggest that once Chinese go to America,
went to San Francisco in 1850 to look for gold, when they found
there was no gold left, they still chose to stay in America. I
wonder what this say about the Chinese. That they see better life
outside China? Also, why would Chinese want to settle in country
where they are small minority? Wouldn't Chinese want to be live
among mainly Chinese people and where everyone speak Chinese?
>do not have any answer, it is no problem.
> I not sure if my questions are suitable for your group, so if you
> kitmengleong <kmleong@a...> wrote:
> Hehehe, you're welcome! I still have a lot of stuff in my
> waiting to be uploaded. I've been busy doing a lot of reading andmanage
> research lately. Hope to get them all up soon... as soon as I
> to sort them all out.interesting
> --- In DragonSeedLegacy@yahoogroups.com, Alessandro Ranieri
> <alexcranieri@y...> wrote:
> > Ah, that make sense. Again, my thanks for create a very
> > Alex.
> > kitmengleong wrote:
> > Hi Alex,
> > Here's my explanation of the name DragonSeed.
> > DragonSeed - Descendants of the Dragon
> > The Dragon is China/Chinese Culture and History
> > Cheers,
> > Jieming
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