Re: [DragonCon] helpless movies/LoTR
- You know, in MY mind she was always a drider, too, but in both Jackson's version and the animated version from Rankin & Bass, she was a giant spider. And I just now heard the term drider. From you. LOL
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--- On Thu, 7/31/08, Desiree Forster <ladydistraction2316@...> wrote:
> From: Desiree Forster <ladydistraction2316@...>
> Speaking of changing things or not changing things...
> Shelob... I find it interesting that she's one of the
> few things that tolkein never really describes very well. I
> mean, he's notoriously long winded, and describes
> EVERYTHING... but not her? I wonder why that was...
> I mention it, because of Jackson's choice of using a
> giant spider... the people I've talked to seem split-
> some thought of her as that, but others, like me, thought of
> her as a drider (think centaur, but with a spider body
> instead of a horses, for those unfamiliar with the term
> drider)... and this was BEFORE I knew what a drider was...
> Just a random thought. :)
> -Lady D.
- That was my point. if you were a fan you did not need to drag out Dr. Sung from TNG. You didn't need the Klingon look explained. to the ST fans it was explained perfectly in DS9 when warf said. " That is something that is only talked about with other Klingons " Fans got the joke nothing else ever needed to be said. if you were not a fan you were unaware of the altered appearance of the Klingons so it just didn't matter. the entire two part episode was a waste of time and only proved how desperate they were to try and use the sucsessful TNG and DS9 to try and save themselves, instead of making original storylines that were respectful and entertaining.
--- On Mon, 8/4/08, Zack Adamson <silverlock5@...> wrote:
From: Zack Adamson <silverlock5@...>
Subject: [DragonCon] Re: Dream Guests (yup, 'tis that time again) the most hated man in Star Trek
Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 9:05 PM
Grrrr, The klingons new look!! grrrr. Am I the only person to
rememberer when the first movie came out, and Roddenberry was still
alive, he did an interview where he said the Klingons in the movie
were how he always pictured the Klingons, but he did not have the
budget or makeup technology to do it back in the 60's? He said
imagine that the Klingons always looked that way.
Now you have all these people trying to make cannon from one quick
joke that was put in humorous Deep Space Nine Episode.
--- In DragonCon@yahoogrou ps.com, Donald Applegarth
<donaldapplegarth@ ...> wrote:
> I think that Enterprise was ok. the only problem it had was that it
spent to much time trying to explain the events that took place in the
future. Such as the new look of the Klingons, and the formation of the
federation of planets. If they didn't try to make Archer the hero of
the Federation they never would have needed to create the alternate
time line in the first place and it probably would have survived. It
was supposed to be the frontier styled adventures that took place
before the Utopian society. the actions and mistakes that were made in
order to bring about the policies and ideals of the federation. I did
like the idea of including the thread of the alternate
universe,started in the original ST and carried on to DS9 and in
books. It had good potential and under a different vision would
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