Re: Robin Ddu
- Possibly the major influence on Dee, Cecil and Talbot is Robin Ddu. Not
so much because he is a famous magician, more because perhaps he was not.
I hope this is of interest. Regarding the Well at the end - that is a
ROBIN DDU (fl. c. 1450), poet, also referred to as Robin Ddu ap Siencyn
Bledrydd of Anglesey . About ninety of his compositions are preserved in
manuscript, many of them being vaticinatory. In one of these he converses
with his book of prophecies, a type of vaticination also attributed to
Meredudd ap Rhys (q.v.) and Llywelyn ap Cynfrig Ddu (q.v.). He was an
adherent of the Tudors during the Wars of the Roses, and wrote an elegy on
the death of Owain Tudor (q.v.).
The character Robin Ddu appears in a number of Welsh tales from printed
and oral sources. See, for example, Isaac Foulkes, Cymru Fu, Wrecsam,
1862, pp. 236-44, and the following narratives in Lewis T Evans'
repertoire: nos. 2, 3, 4 and 5. Robin Ddu is usually referred to as Robin
Ddu Ddewin ('Black Robin, the magician'), and is endowed with the gift of
prophecy and the ability to discover lost treasure. He is identified with
Robin Ddu ap Siencyn Bledrydd o Fôn, fl. c. 1450, the author of a number
of prophetic poems (cywyddau brud). See also, Emyr Wyn Jones, 'Robin Ddu's
Prophecy and "Our Lady's Lap"', Flintshire Historical Society Journal,
vol. 29, 1979-80, pp. 19-50. Some of the tales featuring Robin Ddu are
associated with the much later poet and traveller from Caernarfon, Robert
Parry, 'Robin Ddu Eryri' (1804-92). Robert Parry in his autobiography,
however, refers to Robin Ddu, the poet and magician, as 'Robin yr Addig
[Robin Ddu Hiraddu
Church - St Mary's: The Church Cross is said to date from the 15th
century. Its broken shaft stands three feet two inches above the octagonal
base. (John: IE identical to the Templar pillar at Templeton)
Robin Ddu, born about 1430 and died about 1480, a poet and a prophet. He
visited Ysceifiog many times, forecast global warming and said a time
would come when mankind would not know the difference between the seasons.
Guy Fawkes, born 1570 and died in 1606. There is an unproven tradition
that he came through Ysceifiog on his way to Holywell on a pilgrimage to
St Winefride's Well shortly before he took part in the Gunpowder Plot.
There is a cave on the Pant Gwyn stream near Ffynnon Fair where it is said
that King Arthur sleeps, awaiting the call of the Welsh nation.
Ysceifiog was noted for its white witches
Basingwerk Abbey (Template:Lang-cy) is the ruin of an abbey near Holywell,
Flintshire, Wales, in the care of Cadw (Welsh Heritage).
It was founded in 1132 by Ranulph de Gernon, 2nd Earl of Chester, and
monks from Savigny Abbey settled there. In 1147, the abbey became part of
the Cistercian Order and therefore a daughter house of Buildwas Abbey in
Shropshire. In 1157, the abbey was given the manor of Glossop by King
Henry II. The hilltop Monks' Road in Glossop is a reminder of the monks'
efforts to administer their possession. Earlier on, they had received the
manor of West Kirby from the Earls of Chester. In the 13th century, the
abbey was under the patronage of Llywelyn the Great, Prince of Gwynedd,
and his son Dafydd ap Llywelyn gave St Winefride's Well to the abbey. The
monks harnessed the power of the Holywell stream to run a corn mill and to
treat the wool from their sheep. In 1536, abbey life came to an end with
the Dissolution of the Monasteries.
Two centuries earlier a Welsh seer, Robin Ddu ("Robin the Dark") said the
roof on the refectory would do very nicely on a little church under Moel
Famau. It did. When the abbey was sold, the roof went to Cilcain church
and the amazing Jesse window went to the church at
St. Winifred was a local Welsh saint of little importance until her relics
were translated, in 1136, to a magnificent shrine in Shrewsbury Abbey; and
her popular Life was written by Prior Robert of Shrewsbury only two years
later. Her original tomb was retained at Gwytherin and St. Winifred's
Well, still to be seen in the old town of Holywell in Flintshire, became -
and remains - one of the most visited shrines in the whole of Wales. It is
fed by a stream of singular brightness,...Beuno informed the assembled
Christians that Winifred had vowed to die a martyr to her virginity and
Christianity. Then he took up her head from the ground and set it back in
its rightful place. From where it had fallen, there instantly sprang up a
well of pure clear water. At the same time, he commanded the congregation
to pray that Winifred might be restored to life and fulfil her vow; and,
when they arose from praying, she arose with them. For the rest of her
life she had a red mark round her throat where it had been sliced through.
By Beuno's advice, Winifred remained at that church, gathering around her
eleven virgins of honest and holy conversation and instructing them in the
Christian religion. Beuno himself travelled west, first to Ireland; but
Winifred and her maidens worked him a chasuble or some pretty piece of
needlework every year. They put it into their well and the stream always
carried it safely to him.
I tend to wonder if Guy Fawkes was a self sacrifice. The Plot was used by
Cecil to retain a huge amount of power as King James was petrified. Or at
least until the next plot. Today's suicide bombers also consider
Beheading puts one on a par with John the Baptist. Hanging with Judas. Or
so the medieval community believed. Whether being drawn and quartered
represented the agony of crucifixion is hard to say. It is a curious thing
to do to someone. Burning is considered by some sages to bring release.
These mines are situated to the west of Parys Mountain and are well known
... as a sett of great importance, and estimate them to be of no less
value that the celebrated Parys mine which has realised millions to it's
noble proprietors. The Gaddair as well as the Parys mine, was the subject
of a singular prophecy, well known in the Principality, of the celebrated
seer Robin Ddu ,who lived towards the close of the sixteenth centaury and
was remarkable for his dark sayings. His prediction as respects the Parys
mine has been wonderfully fulfilled, the produce being so great, that the
quantity actually influenced the market price of copper throughout Europe
for a long period.
THERE was once an old man in North Wales called Robin Ddu, or Black Robin.
He pretended to be a wizard, and though he had no magical power, he was so
cunning that he made people believe he had, and his fame spread over the
whole of Wales.
A lady in the Vale of Towy lost three precious gems. They had been given
to her by a dead sister, and she valued them all the more on that account.
Every search was made for them, but they could not be found. The lady had
not heard of the Well of Llanbedrog--(by means of that it is quite easy to
discover who has stolen your property. All you have to do is to kneel by
it, and after throwing in a bit of bread name all whom you suspect. When
the thief's name is mentioned the bread sinks)--but she had heard of Black
Robin, and at last she decided to send for him. She despatched a servant
to North Wales to offer him fifty pounds if he would restore her lost
diamonds to her, and Robin travelled south with the messenger. When he
arrived he said he would not begin his work unless fifty pounds were given
to him beforehand. "Fifty pounds is a lot of money," said the lady. "I
should like to test your power before giving it you."
Robin Ddu prophesied he would be buried neither inside nor outside a
church and is said to be buried in a church wall.
John Dee died 4 years after the Gunpowder Plot and his connection with it
needs some investigation. In 1605 (The plot was discovered on November 4
1605) Dee's wife and 'several of his children' died in Manchester plague
and he returned to London. Was he perhaps aggrieved?
I will return to this.