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  • Angelis
    I am using a liquid nitrogen tank I cut off the top and remove the inside piece had it welded back together and now using a hillbilly still 3 to 2 reducer
    Message 1 of 11 , May 8, 2013
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      I am using a liquid nitrogen tank I cut off the top and remove the inside piece had it welded back together and now using a hillbilly still  3 to 2 reducer

      Michael 

      On May 7, 2013, at 8:53 PM, "JamesA" <jamesadamslh@...> wrote:

       

      I'm getting back into distilling having sold all my gear when I lost my home to foreclosure. Things are OK, I'm happy and living with my GF.

      Someone gave me a SS vessel which had been used to store liquid nitrogen. I want to use it for my pot. It's beautiful! It gleams! And it looks like a cross between R2-D2 and a Dalek.

      It's double-walled so I doubt I can heat the mash with a fire. It has two ports through the double wall at the bottom, about 1 5/16" inside diameter, through which I could insert electric immersion heaters, but I have no experience with them.

      Has anyone used this method of heating your wash, or can you tell me anything about how they work? Thanks in advance!

      J. Adams

    • Robert Reid
      I d try to sell the thing first. Liquid nitrogen dewars are very expensive and you might get a pretty penny for it. Then buy more stuff, just a thought Sent
      Message 2 of 11 , May 8, 2013
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        I'd try to sell the thing first. Liquid nitrogen dewars are very expensive and you might get a pretty penny for it. Then buy more stuff, just a thought

        Sent from my iPhone

        On May 7, 2013, at 5:53 PM, "JamesA" <jamesadamslh@...> wrote:

         

        I'm getting back into distilling having sold all my gear when I lost my home to foreclosure. Things are OK, I'm happy and living with my GF.

        Someone gave me a SS vessel which had been used to store liquid nitrogen. I want to use it for my pot. It's beautiful! It gleams! And it looks like a cross between R2-D2 and a Dalek.

        It's double-walled so I doubt I can heat the mash with a fire. It has two ports through the double wall at the bottom, about 1 5/16" inside diameter, through which I could insert electric immersion heaters, but I have no experience with them.

        Has anyone used this method of heating your wash, or can you tell me anything about how they work? Thanks in advance!

        J. Adams

      • Slingshot
        If there were a way to put heating oil between the walls, and sealed, fire could definitely be used. I can t help but think there would only be a little loss
        Message 3 of 11 , May 8, 2013
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          If there were a way to put heating oil between the walls, and sealed, fire could definitely be used. I can't help but think there would only be a little loss in efficiency. May be worth a try.

          --- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, "JamesA" <jamesadamslh@...> wrote:
          >
          > I'm getting back into distilling having sold all my gear when I lost my home to foreclosure. Things are OK, I'm happy and living with my GF.
          >
          > Someone gave me a SS vessel which had been used to store liquid nitrogen. I want to use it for my pot. It's beautiful! It gleams! And it looks like a cross between R2-D2 and a Dalek.
          >
          > It's double-walled so I doubt I can heat the mash with a fire. It has two ports through the double wall at the bottom, about 1 5/16" inside diameter, through which I could insert electric immersion heaters, but I have no experience with them.
          >
          > Has anyone used this method of heating your wash, or can you tell me anything about how they work? Thanks in advance!
          >
          > J. Adams
          >
        • JamesA
          I d been thinking along those lines but it seemed an inefficient solution, but maybe not. Without knowing the physics and engineering around this it seemed
          Message 4 of 11 , May 8, 2013
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            I'd been thinking along those lines but it seemed an inefficient solution, but maybe not. Without knowing the physics and engineering around this it seemed better to *use* the insulating qualities of the double-wall construction than to work around them by using a heat transfer medium. I'm totally up to trying it, though.

            What about anti-freeze as a heat transfer liquid?

            JamesA

            --- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, "Slingshot" <slange22@...> wrote:
            >
            > If there were a way to put heating oil between the walls, and sealed, fire could definitely be used. I can't help but think there would only be a little loss in efficiency. May be worth a try.
            >
            > --- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, "JamesA" <jamesadamslh@> wrote:
            > >
            > > I'm getting back into distilling having sold all my gear when I lost my home to foreclosure. Things are OK, I'm happy and living with my GF.
            > >
            > > Someone gave me a SS vessel which had been used to store liquid nitrogen. I want to use it for my pot. It's beautiful! It gleams! And it looks like a cross between R2-D2 and a Dalek.
            > >
            > > It's double-walled so I doubt I can heat the mash with a fire. It has two ports through the double wall at the bottom, about 1 5/16" inside diameter, through which I could insert electric immersion heaters, but I have no experience with them.
            > >
            > > Has anyone used this method of heating your wash, or can you tell me anything about how they work? Thanks in advance!
            > >
            > > J. Adams
            > >
            >
          • ben marks
            if i had one of those i would sell it as its worth a few hundred bucks if you can find someone who need to transport liquid nitrogen if not do a search on
            Message 5 of 11 , May 9, 2013
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              if i had one of those i would sell it as its worth a few hundred bucks if you can find someone who need to transport liquid nitrogen  if not do a search on making a boiler with water heater elements 
              if you dont know what u r doing it can be a little scary  to plug in the first time but they work ....ben


               
               
               
               
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              To: Distillers@yahoogroups.com
              From: jamesadamslh@...
              Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 00:53:34 +0000
              Subject: [Distillers] Immersion Heaters

               
              I'm getting back into distilling having sold all my gear when I lost my home to foreclosure. Things are OK, I'm happy and living with my GF.

              Someone gave me a SS vessel which had been used to store liquid nitrogen. I want to use it for my pot. It's beautiful! It gleams! And it looks like a cross between R2-D2 and a Dalek.

              It's double-walled so I doubt I can heat the mash with a fire. It has two ports through the double wall at the bottom, about 1 5/16" inside diameter, through which I could insert electric immersion heaters, but I have no experience with them.

              Has anyone used this method of heating your wash, or can you tell me anything about how they work? Thanks in advance!

              J. Adams


            • ballard_bootlegger
              J, Immersion heaters work great. Depending on the size of the vessel you can get anywhere from 1400-5500 watt elements from home depot or lowes. The key
              Message 6 of 11 , May 9, 2013
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                J,
                Immersion heaters work great. Depending on the size of the vessel you can get anywhere from 1400-5500 watt elements from home depot or lowes. The key really is understanding how much power you need and making sure your wash is nicely strained. The element will scorch fine particles ruining your batch and eventually the build up will cause it to overheat and break.
                I'd recommend checking out http://www.theelectricbrewery.com/heating-elements, they show you how to put together the heating elements and more. Also reading 'Making Pure Corn Whiskey' is great, it will help with your build and distilling with the immersion elements.

                Have fun and Drink Well,
                Whitney.
              • henry sangret
                No matter what you do straining or not you will always build up on the heating coil s and burn the run. I do a pot still first run and get s 50% first run and
                Message 7 of 11 , May 9, 2013
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                  No matter what you do straining or not you will always build up on the heating coil's and burn the run. I do a pot still first run and get s 50% first run and combine multiple runs with filtered water and do a CLEAN  second distill in my pot with the immersion heaters. I run 2 1500w heaters in series and that puts out the same heat but the elements run at half the temperature the overall temperature.  
                  From: ballard_bootlegger <whitney@...>
                  To: Distillers@yahoogroups.com
                  Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 5:27 PM
                  Subject: [Distillers] Re: Immersion Heaters
                   
                  J,
                  Immersion heaters work great. Depending on the size of the vessel you can get anywhere from 1400-5500 watt elements from home depot or lowes. The key really is understanding how much power you need and making sure your wash is nicely strained. The element will scorch fine particles ruining your batch and eventually the build up will cause it to overheat and break.
                  I'd recommend checking out http://www.theelectricbrewery.com/heating-elements, they show you how to put together the heating elements and more. Also reading 'Making Pure Corn Whiskey' is great, it will help with your build and distilling with the immersion elements.

                  Have fun and Drink Well,
                  Whitney.

                • henry sangret
                  My pot still uses a water jacket ... boiler inside a bigger pot .. to distill. I always can do stripping or spirit runs without being concerned about over
                  Message 8 of 11 , May 9, 2013
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                    My pot still uses a water jacket ... boiler inside a bigger pot .. to distill. I always can do stripping or spirit runs without being concerned about over cooking the run. I have tried many other methods, oil , sand , and water in the jacket,  but hands down water works the best!

                    From: Slingshot <slange22@...>
                    To: Distillers@yahoogroups.com
                    Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2013 10:40 PM
                    Subject: [Distillers] Re: Immersion Heaters
                     
                    If there were a way to put heating oil between the walls, and sealed, fire could definitely be used. I can't help but think there would only be a little loss in efficiency. May be worth a try.

                    --- In mailto:Distillers%40yahoogroups.com, "JamesA" <jamesadamslh@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > I'm getting back into distilling having sold all my gear when I lost my home to foreclosure. Things are OK, I'm happy and living with my GF.
                    >
                    > Someone gave me a SS vessel which had been used to store liquid nitrogen. I want to use it for my pot. It's beautiful! It gleams! And it looks like a cross between R2-D2 and a Dalek.
                    >
                    > It's double-walled so I doubt I can heat the mash with a fire. It has two ports through the double wall at the bottom, about 1 5/16" inside diameter, through which I could insert electric immersion heaters, but I have no experience with them.
                    >
                    > Has anyone used this method of heating your wash, or can you tell me anything about how they work? Thanks in advance!
                    >
                    > J. Adams
                    >

                     
                  • JamesA
                    You ve nailed the solution! I looked up heat transfer fluids and it turns out mineral oil would work fine. I can fill the insulating jacket with the mineral
                    Message 9 of 11 , May 31, 2013
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                      You've nailed the solution! I looked up "heat transfer fluids" and it turns out mineral oil would work fine. I can fill the insulating jacket with the mineral oil and heat the Dewar flask s.s. container with a burner!

                      I only need to heat the oil to around 200* F. and distillation will proceed. The mineral oil is cheap and would take a lot more heat than I'm going to give it.

                      Thanks!

                      --- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, "Slingshot" <slange22@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > If there were a way to put heating oil between the walls, and sealed, fire could definitely be used. I can't help but think there would only be a little loss in efficiency. May be worth a try.
                      >
                      > --- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, "JamesA" <jamesadamslh@> wrote:
                      > >
                      > > I'm getting back into distilling having sold all my gear when I lost my home to foreclosure. Things are OK, I'm happy and living with my GF.
                      > >
                      > > Someone gave me a SS vessel which had been used to store liquid nitrogen. I want to use it for my pot. It's beautiful! It gleams! And it looks like a cross between R2-D2 and a Dalek.
                      > >
                      > > It's double-walled so I doubt I can heat the mash with a fire. It has two ports through the double wall at the bottom, about 1 5/16" inside diameter, through which I could insert electric immersion heaters, but I have no experience with them.
                      > >
                      > > Has anyone used this method of heating your wash, or can you tell me anything about how they work? Thanks in advance!
                      > >
                      > > J. Adams
                      > >
                      >
                    • henry sangret
                      I use a water jacket still for my distillation, and my grandfather did it for a long time before me! It is basically a double boiler set up and you have
                      Message 10 of 11 , Jun 3, 2013
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                        I use a water jacket still for my distillation, and my grandfather did it for a long time before me! It is basically a double boiler set up and you have phenomenal control over the boiler temperatures and no burning the whiskey! I heat with an open flame and it allows me to do large batch primary distillation and great control and a fine touch for the second and if desired the third.  
                        From: JamesA <jamesadamslh@...>
                        To: Distillers@yahoogroups.com
                        Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 11:38 PM
                        Subject: [Distillers] Re: Immersion Heaters
                         
                        You've nailed the solution! I looked up "heat transfer fluids" and it turns out mineral oil would work fine. I can fill the insulating jacket with the mineral oil and heat the Dewar flask s.s. container with a burner!

                        I only need to heat the oil to around 200* F. and distillation will proceed. The mineral oil is cheap and would take a lot more heat than I'm going to give it.

                        Thanks!

                        --- In mailto:Distillers%40yahoogroups.com, "Slingshot" <slange22@...> wrote:
                        >
                        > If there were a way to put heating oil between the walls, and sealed, fire could definitely be used. I can't help but think there would only be a little loss in efficiency. May be worth a try.
                        >
                        > --- In mailto:Distillers%40yahoogroups.com, "JamesA" <jamesadamslh@> wrote:
                        > >
                        > > I'm getting back into distilling having sold all my gear when I lost my home to foreclosure. Things are OK, I'm happy and living with my GF.
                        > >
                        > > Someone gave me a SS vessel which had been used to store liquid nitrogen. I want to use it for my pot. It's beautiful! It gleams! And it looks like a cross between R2-D2 and a Dalek.
                        > >
                        > > It's double-walled so I doubt I can heat the mash with a fire. It has two ports through the double wall at the bottom, about 1 5/16" inside diameter, through which I could insert electric immersion heaters, but I have no experience with them.
                        > >
                        > > Has anyone used this method of heating your wash, or can you tell me anything about how they work? Thanks in advance!
                        > >
                        > > J. Adams
                        > >
                        >

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