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Re: Nother Qestion for Group and Wal or Harry - Ciroc Vodka

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  • waljaco
    Eastern European vodkas have usually lightly added flavor unlike the U.S. definition. I have seen a local vodka in Australia from sugarcane molasses! But if
    Message 1 of 8 , Feb 8, 2010
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      Eastern European vodkas have usually lightly added flavor unlike the
      U.S. definition.
      I have seen a local vodka in Australia from sugarcane molasses! But if you can use sugarbeet molasses, why not?
      wal

      --- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, Robert Hubble <zymurgybob@...> wrote:
      >
      >
      > Waldo,
      >
      > It sounds like you are questioning and exploring something that also bothers me; exactly what flavor notes/congeners do which vodkas made by which processes contain, and what pleases our taste buds? I think we have too many examples of non-correlation between "azeotrope vodkas" and popularly-preferred vodkas to say that azeotrope vodka is the *only* best way. Tito's vodka is a great example, and I'll throw in my double-bicarb-distilled MUM "sugar jack" as another possibility.
      >
      > I wonder what the chances are that anyone can, or has, tested vodkas in a gas spectrometer, so we could know once and for all what flavoring compounds (and in what ratios) we're dealing with.
      >
      > Zymurgy Bob, a simple potstiller
      >
      > P.S. Speaking of MUM, has anyone heard from Mason lately? I'd hate for us to lose him.
      >
      >
      >
      > To: Distillers@yahoogroups.com
      > From: jamesonbeam1@... all vodka is distilled, the manufacturers of Cîroc vodka emphasize that theirs is distilled five times. The first four distillations of the Ugni Blanc take place in stainless steel column stills; the Mauzac Blanc grapes are distilled in copper continuous stills. These are distilled as far as 96.5% and 93.5%, then blended together 95% being Ugni Blanc and 5% Mauzac Blanc. The final distillation is performed in a traditional Armagnac style copper pot still.
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    • jamesonbeam1
      Exactly ZB, Maybe cause ive been making wine off and on since 16, when i taste a shot of vodka and nothing but the taste of brandy comes out through my taste
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        Exactly ZB,

        Maybe cause ive been making wine off and on since 16, when i taste a
        shot of vodka and nothing but the taste of brandy comes out through my
        taste buds, something is wrong. I dont care if its distilled to 95.6%
        or 90% - it still shouldn't be called vodka period...... Guess im just
        old fashioned buddy.

        But yes I can see Tito's being a vodka since its from corn and even if
        its distilled in a pot still many times, thats a grain. Even your MUM
        vodka is ok since we are talking a totally neutral sugar wash. Maybe Im
        guilty of splitting hairs here lol.

        Vino es Veritas,

        Jim aka Waldo.

        And yes where is Mason?? I posted a note in New Distillers a while back
        "Were's Waldo II" . Hope hes ok.


        --- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, Robert Hubble <zymurgybob@...> wrote:
        >
        >
        > Waldo,
        >
        > It sounds like you are questioning and exploring something that also
        bothers me; exactly what flavor notes/congeners do which vodkas made by
        which processes contain, and what pleases our taste buds? I think we
        have too many examples of non-correlation between "azeotrope vodkas" and
        popularly-preferred vodkas to say that azeotrope vodka is the *only*
        best way. Tito's vodka is a great example, and I'll throw in my
        double-bicarb-distilled MUM "sugar jack" as another possibility.
        >
        > I wonder what the chances are that anyone can, or has, tested vodkas
        in a gas spectrometer, so we could know once and for all what flavoring
        compounds (and in what ratios) we're dealing with.
        >
        > Zymurgy Bob, a simple potstiller
        >
        > P.S. Speaking of MUM, has anyone heard from Mason lately? I'd hate for
        us to lose him.
      • Harry
        ... This 7 minute video may be of some use... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuFQ3HgTCss Re Mason: Sent him a pm. No answer yet, but it s sleep time where he
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          --- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, "jamesonbeam1" <jamesonbeam1@...> wrote:
          >
          >
          > Exactly ZB,
          >
          > Maybe cause ive been making wine off and on since 16, when i taste a
          > shot of vodka and nothing but the taste of brandy comes out through my
          > taste buds, something is wrong. I dont care if its distilled to 95.6%
          > or 90% - it still shouldn't be called vodka period...... Guess im just
          > old fashioned buddy.
          >
          > But yes I can see Tito's being a vodka since its from corn and even if
          > its distilled in a pot still many times, thats a grain. Even your MUM
          > vodka is ok since we are talking a totally neutral sugar wash. Maybe Im
          > guilty of splitting hairs here lol.
          >
          > Vino es Veritas,
          >
          > Jim aka Waldo.
          >
          > And yes where is Mason?? I posted a note in New Distillers a while back
          > "Were's Waldo II" . Hope hes ok.
          >


          This 7 minute video may be of some use...
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuFQ3HgTCss

          Re Mason: Sent him a pm. No answer yet, but it's sleep time where he is.


          Slainte!
          regards Harry
        • jamesonbeam1
          Good video Harry, Will recommend in New Distillers when any of these topics come up. Vino es Veritas, Jim aka Waldo. ... is.
          Message 4 of 8 , Feb 10, 2010
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            Good video Harry,

            Will recommend in New Distillers when any of these topics come up.

            Vino es Veritas,

            Jim aka Waldo.


            --- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, "Harry" <gnikomson2000@...> wrote:


            > This 7 minute video may be of some use...
            > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuFQ3HgTCss
            >
            > Re Mason: Sent him a pm. No answer yet, but it's sleep time where he
            is.
            >
            >
            > Slainte!
            > regards Harry
            >
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