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  • M W
    Interesting, looking forwards to hearing more :)
    Message 1 of 23 , Sep 17, 2009
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      Interesting, looking forwards to hearing more :)
    • eric_yendall
      Sounds great. I would definitely be interested. Would it require constructing a new dedicated still or could it be retrofitted to a variety of existing popular
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        Sounds great. I would definitely be interested. Would it require constructing a new dedicated still or could it be retrofitted to a variety of existing popular pot and VPM still designs.

        Eric

        --- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, joe giffen <joegiffen@...> wrote:
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        > Hi Harry,
        > Put me down for one of the first.
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        > Regards
        > Joe
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        > --- On Wed, 16/9/09, gnikomson2000 <gnikomson2000@...> wrote:
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        > From: gnikomson2000 <gnikomson2000@...>
        > Subject: [Distillers] What would you say?
        > To: Distillers@yahoogroups.com
        > Date: Wednesday, 16 September, 2009, 3:29 PM
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        > ...about a gadget with specs similar to the following...
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        > What it is:
        > A Vapour Management Control device.
        > It's a mysterious little box of tricks that you can be set set to any ratio of reflux-to-product that you wish, all the way from 0% reflux : 100% product, to 100% reflux : 0% product. It's small & relatively light.
        >
        > How it can help:
        > No more guesswork on reflux ratios. No marginal design variables, tolerances or complicated calculations. No electronics. All mechanical operation. You want to build a still, this item will make all the bits virtually "plug 'n' play".
        >
        > What it does:
        > It will accomodate pot still runs, stripping runs or refluxed product runs under batch conditions. It will accomodate column equilibration and heads removal as liquid, product removal as either liquid or vapour, and tails removal as either liquid or vapour. It's modular, demountable, and quickly cleaned & stored.
        >
        > Future R&D will be in the direction of continuous distillation.
        >
        > When I've decided on its final form (there are several options to test & compare) and completed trials, I'll post some more about real-world results. Then I'll be commissioning a pilot run of units for sale. If the demand is there, then general production will follow on.
        >
        > As this point, there is but one prototype and I'm not ready to proceed until all testing is complete. I posted this to let you know what is in the works & to excuse my absence of late.
        >
        > Slainte!
        > regards Harry
        >
      • martin martins
        crikey! You ll be having your door kicked in with people wanting them like yesterday. Yep, keep me informed as well please. ________________________________
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          crikey! You'll be having your door kicked in with people wanting them like yesterday. Yep, keep me informed as well please.



          From: gnikomson2000 <gnikomson2000@...>
          To: Distillers@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:29:33 PM
          Subject: [Distillers] What would you say?

           

          ...about a gadget with specs similar to the following...

          What it is:
          A Vapour Management Control device.
          It's a mysterious little box of tricks that you can be set set to any ratio of reflux-to-product that you wish, all the way from 0% reflux : 100% product, to 100% reflux : 0% product. It's small & relatively light.



        • billfitz49
          Please add me to the list. I d love to buy and try one. I built one of your crossflow designs which is great. Thanks again for that one. Regards, Bill
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            Please add me to the list. I'd love to buy and try one. I built one of your crossflow designs which is great. Thanks again for that one.
            Regards,
            Bill
          • bob@4agoodauction.com
            Vapor Management Control I want one now!!!!!! Go Harry-------------------------bob c
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              Vapor Management Control

               

              I want one now!!!!!! Go Harry-------------------------bob c

            • romeo the mad
              Hi Harry, Please add me to the list to. Best Regards, Michael To: Distillers@yahoogroups.com From: gnikomson2000@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:29:33
              Message 6 of 23 , Sep 24, 2009
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                Hi Harry,
                Please add me to the list to.

                Best Regards,
                Michael


                To: Distillers@yahoogroups.com
                From: gnikomson2000@...
                Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:29:33 +0000
                Subject: [Distillers] What would you say?

                 
                ...about a gadget with specs similar to the following...

                What it is:
                A Vapour Management Control device.
                It's a mysterious little box of tricks that you can be set set to any ratio of reflux-to-product that you wish, all the way from 0% reflux : 100% product, to 100% reflux : 0% product. It's small & relatively light.

                How it can help:
                No more guesswork on reflux ratios. No marginal design variables, tolerances or complicated calculations. No electronics. All mechanical operation. You want to build a still, this item will make all the bits virtually "plug 'n' play".

                What it does:
                It will accomodate pot still runs, stripping runs or refluxed product runs under batch conditions. It will accomodate column equilibration and heads removal as liquid, product removal as either liquid or vapour, and tails removal as either liquid or vapour. It's modular, demountable, and quickly cleaned & stored.

                Future R&D will be in the direction of continuous distillation.

                When I've decided on its final form (there are several options to test & compare) and completed trials, I'll post some more about real-world results. Then I'll be commissioning a pilot run of units for sale. If the demand is there, then general production will follow on.

                As this point, there is but one prototype and I'm not ready to proceed until all testing is complete. I posted this to let you know what is in the works & to excuse my absence of late.

                Slainte!
                regards Harry




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              • Geoff
                Harry, I will one day build a VM still, and I certainly will wait to find out more about your device before I do. Most likely I will want one of them. Regards,
                Message 7 of 23 , Sep 24, 2009
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                  Harry, I will one day build a VM still, and I certainly will wait to find out more about your device before I do. Most likely I will want one of them.

                  Regards,

                  The Baker

                  --- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, romeo the mad <wongsien@...> wrote:
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                  > Hi Harry,
                  > Please add me to the list to.
                  >
                  > Best Regards,
                  > Michael
                  >
                  > To: Distillers@yahoogroups.com
                  > From: gnikomson2000@...
                  > Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:29:33 +0000
                  > Subject: [Distillers] What would you say?
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                  > What it is:
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                  > A Vapour Management Control device.
                  >
                  > It's a mysterious little box of tricks that you can be set set to any ratio of reflux-to-product that you wish, all the way from 0% reflux : 100% product, to 100% reflux : 0% product. It's small & relatively light.
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                  > How it can help:
                  >
                  > No more guesswork on reflux ratios. No marginal design variables, tolerances or complicated calculations. No electronics. All mechanical operation. You want to build a still, this item will make all the bits virtually "plug 'n' play".
                  >
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                  > What it does:
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                  > It will accomodate pot still runs, stripping runs or refluxed product runs under batch conditions. It will accomodate column equilibration and heads removal as liquid, product removal as either liquid or vapour, and tails removal as either liquid or vapour. It's modular, demountable, and quickly cleaned & stored.
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                  > Future R&D will be in the direction of continuous distillation.
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                  > When I've decided on its final form (there are several options to test & compare) and completed trials, I'll post some more about real-world results. Then I'll be commissioning a pilot run of units for sale. If the demand is there, then general production will follow on.
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                  > Slainte!
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                • gnikomson2000
                  Hang in there guys. Trials are progressing and data collection is happening (subject to time constraints). I need to collate real world data and compare that
                  Message 8 of 23 , Sep 29, 2009
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                    Hang in there guys. Trials are progressing and data collection is happening (subject to time constraints). I need to collate real world data and compare that with theoretical projections. Then I can give guaranteed figures and begin negotiations with a US manufacturer/distributor.

                    Please keep in mind, this item is going to be handled by reputable manufacturers/distributors. No wannabe middlemen here. It will not be released as schematics or blueprints to public domain (sorry), like I did with my crossflow condenser. That little item was a gift back to the hobby, my way of saying "thank you". Many of you have built that one and I have yet to hear a bad word about it. n I guess that says volumes about integrity.

                    The new VM controller I have designed is envisaged as a central component that makes life easy for all still builders/fabricators and will be an essential & versatile piece of kit in its own right.

                    I'm not trying to screw anything out of anybody, just looking to make an honest dollar for work done, & to supply an item that is needed (or at very least a foolproof fabrication component).

                    Now I better stop before this starts to sound like an advertisement. Suffice to say, Watch This Space!


                    Slainte!
                    regards Harry
                  • abbababbaccc
                    Harry, Do you mind telling us a bit more of how this controller is used? I mean you set a reflux ratio and this device holds it I remember you writing. Why is
                    Message 9 of 23 , Sep 29, 2009
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                      Harry,

                      Do you mind telling us a bit more of how this controller is used? I mean you set a reflux ratio and this device holds it I remember you writing. Why is that a good thing when we know that the RR needs to be increased in non-linear fashion as the run proceeds? Or does this device adjust the RR automatically to the optimum? Not trying to be critical, just curious of finding out the benefits of this device (you can never have too many gadgets).

                      Slainte, Riku

                      --- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, "gnikomson2000" <gnikomson2000@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > Hang in there guys. Trials are progressing and data collection is happening (subject to time constraints). I need to collate real world data and compare that with theoretical projections. Then I can give guaranteed figures and begin negotiations with a US manufacturer/distributor.
                      >
                      > Please keep in mind, this item is going to be handled by reputable manufacturers/distributors. No wannabe middlemen here. It will not be released as schematics or blueprints to public domain (sorry), like I did with my crossflow condenser. That little item was a gift back to the hobby, my way of saying "thank you". Many of you have built that one and I have yet to hear a bad word about it. n I guess that says volumes about integrity.
                      >
                      > The new VM controller I have designed is envisaged as a central component that makes life easy for all still builders/fabricators and will be an essential & versatile piece of kit in its own right.
                      >
                      > I'm not trying to screw anything out of anybody, just looking to make an honest dollar for work done, & to supply an item that is needed (or at very least a foolproof fabrication component).
                      >
                      > Now I better stop before this starts to sound like an advertisement. Suffice to say, Watch This Space!
                      >
                      >
                      > Slainte!
                      > regards Harry
                      >
                    • Rufus
                      Harry, is there any news on your vapor management device? Regards, R
                      Message 10 of 23 , Dec 6, 2009
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                        Harry, is there any news on your vapor management device?
                        Regards,
                        R

                        >
                        > ...about a gadget with specs similar to the following...
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > What it is:
                        >
                        > A Vapour Management Control device.
                        >
                        > It's a mysterious little box of tricks that you can be set set to any ratio of reflux-to-product that you wish, all the way from 0% reflux : 100% product, to 100% reflux : 0% product. It's small & relatively light.
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > How it can help:
                        >
                        > No more guesswork on reflux ratios. No marginal design variables, tolerances or complicated calculations. No electronics. All mechanical operation. You want to build a still, this item will make all the bits virtually "plug 'n' play".
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > What it does:
                        >
                        > It will accomodate pot still runs, stripping runs or refluxed product runs under batch conditions. It will accomodate column equilibration and heads removal as liquid, product removal as either liquid or vapour, and tails removal as either liquid or vapour. It's modular, demountable, and quickly cleaned & stored.
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > Future R&D will be in the direction of continuous distillation.
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > When I've decided on its final form (there are several options to test & compare) and completed trials, I'll post some more about real-world results. Then I'll be commissioning a pilot run of units for sale. If the demand is there, then general production will follow on.
                        >
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                        > As this point, there is but one prototype and I'm not ready to proceed until all testing is complete. I posted this to let you know what is in the works & to excuse my absence of late.
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                        > Slainte!
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                        > regards Harry
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                      • gnikomson2000
                        ... Schematics are under manufacturer s evaluation as we speak. But they re godawful busy this time of year. Hopefully more news soon. Slainte! regards Harry
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                          --- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, "Rufus" <rufusroughguts@...> wrote:
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                          > Harry, is there any news on your vapor management device?
                          > Regards,
                          > R


                          Schematics are under manufacturer's evaluation as we speak. But they're godawful busy this time of year. Hopefully more news soon.


                          Slainte!
                          regards Harry
                        • Rufus Roughguts
                          Harry, your entrepreneurial spirit is to be admired.  I ll look forward to hearing more news. Regards, R ________________________________ From: gnikomson2000
                          Message 12 of 23 , Dec 7, 2009
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                            Harry, your entrepreneurial spirit is to be admired.  I'll look forward to hearing more news.
                            Regards,
                            R

                            From: gnikomson2000 <gnikomson2000@...>
                            To: Distillers@yahoogroups.com
                            Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 6:42:59 PM
                            Subject: [Distillers] Re: vapor management device

                             



                            --- In Distillers@yahoogro ups.com, "Rufus" <rufusroughguts@ ...> wrote:
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                            > Harry, is there any news on your vapor management device?
                            > Regards,
                            > R

                            Schematics are under manufacturer' s evaluation as we speak. But they're godawful busy this time of year. Hopefully more news soon.

                            Slainte!
                            regards Harry


                          • Yves
                            ... Hi Harry ! Just wondering if your new gadget will be available for continuous stills ?
                            Message 13 of 23 , Mar 7, 2010
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                              --- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, "gnikomson2000" <gnikomson2000@...> wrote:

                              > Schematics are under manufacturer's evaluation as we speak. But they're godawful busy this time of year. Hopefully more news soon.
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                              > Slainte!
                              > regards Harry
                              >

                              Hi Harry !

                              Just wondering if your new gadget will be available for continuous stills ?
                            • Harry
                              ... It s meant for Vapor Management (VM) batch distillation. Continuous distilling trials is a project on the to do list. Slainte! regards Harry
                              Message 14 of 23 , Mar 9, 2010
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                                --- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, "Yves" <aquasasser@...> wrote:
                                > Hi Harry !
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                                > Just wondering if your new gadget will be available for continuous stills ?
                                >



                                It's meant for Vapor Management (VM) batch distillation. Continuous distilling trials is a project on the "to do" list.


                                Slainte!
                                regards Harry
                              • geoff
                                Hi Harry and all, Well Harry where is this secret piece of wizardry for Vapour Management? To quote your posting on 09/03/ 2010 It s meant for Vapour
                                Message 15 of 23 , Jun 10, 2010
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                                  Hi Harry and all,

                                       Well Harry where is this secret piece of wizardry for Vapour Management?

                                  To quote your posting on 09/03/ 2010

                                  “It's meant for Vapour Management (VM) batch distillation.” 

                                       You were gonna give us an explanation, on how the wee beastie works its magic, and then possibly a chance of a purchase?

                                    I know you have all the legal stuff, patents, manufacturing setup, business plan, projected sales forecast, and cash flow etc.etc.if you are gonna make a bob on it.  

                                       But I’ll settle for just want a wee peek, or as my Isle of Skye 1969-81 ex-army buddy Rab said last month when he was over visiting “I’ll noo tell a livin' soul ya Ken wot ahh mean” he must mean he’ll only tell Ken whoever Ken is?  (But there seems to be a lot of them up around where he’s fer’(from) and Hens to the way he speaks)

                                       Just on a side note Harry have you ever tasted the “Laphroaig Whiskies” at this link

                                  http://www.laphroaig.com/distillery/virtual_tour/index.asp?expanded=our_distillery.virtual_tour

                                       Rab brought a bottle of 15 year old Laphroaig singleIslay malt with him (to just have a wee dram or two for awld (old) times sac'(sake) he says after a nice wee meal would be good he says) and yes after a nice meal out in in our local town Sarlat we did precisely that. When we got back we proceeded to make a big crowd on that poor wee bottle (speaking like him already). We bought a pack of 24 cans of Mc Kewans I found in the local French supermarket earlier that day to make the Laphroaig single malt experience last a little bit longer (he says) and it did.   

                                       If that was what whiskey is supposed to taste like.  All I can say is I must have been drinking “Brasso” all these years. 

                                       That first glass on it’s own, at room temperature, was slow and neat (I don’t believe in adding ice or diluting a good single malt in any way whatsoever) but it was something I don’t think I’ll ever forget Gawd it was so beautiful and so smooth on my tongue it just said more to me, he’s bringing two more bottles over in September.  Although it's pricey I can highly recommend Laphroaig single malt  to anyone if you can get your hands on it (it's a high bench mark you'll measure all other whiskey from).  Try this link if you want to buy it on line.  http://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/P-3399.aspx

                                       And no I’m not a salesman.  I just like bloody good Laphroaig single malt

                                  Geoff

                                        

                                • Ion Brown
                                  You are saying ,what I have been thinking too Geoff..... Harry, you can trust me as well, ... It s the people I tell that s the problem !!!!!!! Regards
                                  Message 16 of 23 , Jun 10, 2010
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                                        You are saying ,what I have been thinking too Geoff.....     
                                                   Harry, you can trust me as well, ...  It's the people I tell that's the problem !!!!!!!      Regards Ion
                                    On 10/06/2010, at 9:51 PM, geoff wrote:

                                     

                                    Hi Harry and all,

                                         Well Harry where is this secret piece of wizardry for Vapour Management?

                                    To quote your posting on 09/03/ 2010

                                    “It's meant for Vapour Management (VM) batch distillation.” 

                                         You were gonna give us an explanation, on how the wee beastie works its magic, and then possibly a chance of a purchase?

                                      I know you have all the legal stuff, patents, manufacturing setup, business plan, projected sales forecast, and cash flow etc.etc.if you are gonna make a bob on it.  

                                         But I’ll settle for just want a wee peek, or as my Isle of Skye 1969-81 ex-army buddy Rab said last month when he was over visiting “I’ll noo tell a livin' soul ya Ken wot ahh mean” he must mean he’ll only tell Ken whoever Ken is?  (But there seems to be a lot of them up around where he’s fer’(from) and Hens to the way he speaks)

                                         Just on a side note Harry have you ever tasted the “Laphroaig Whiskies” at this link

                                    http://www.laphroai g.com/distillery /virtual_ tour/index. asp?expanded= our_distillery. virtual_tour

                                         Rab brought a bottle of 15 year old Laphroaig single Islay malt with him (to just have a wee dram or two for awld (old) times sac'(sake) he says after a nice wee meal would be good he says) and yes after a nice meal out in in our local town Sarlat we did precisely that. When we got back we proceeded to make a big crowd on that poor wee bottle (speaking like him already). We bought a pack of 24 cans of Mc Kewans I found in the local French supermarket earlier that day to make the Laphroaig single malt experience last a little bit longer (he says) and it did.   

                                         If that was what whiskey is supposed to taste like.  All I can say is I must have been drinking “Brasso” all these years. 

                                         That first glass on it’s own, at room temperature, was slow and neat (I don’t believe in adding ice or diluting a good single malt in any way whatsoever) but it was something I don’t think I’ll ever forget Gawd it was so beautiful and so smooth on my tongue it just said more to me, he’s bringing two more bottles over in September.  Although it's pricey I can highly recommend Laphroaig single malt  to anyone if you can get your hands on it (it's a high bench mark you'll measure all other whiskey from).  Try this link if you want to buy it on line.  http://www.thewhisk yexchange. com/P-3399. aspx

                                         And no I’m not a salesman.  I just like bloody good Laphroaig single malt

                                    Geoff

                                          


                                  • Harry
                                    ... ... It exists, but it s on the backburner for now. I have a way more important project to complete first. I ve been working on it on & off for 3
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                                      --- In Distillers@yahoogroups.com, "geoff" <jeffrey.burrows@...> wrote:
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                                      > Hi Harry and all,
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                                      > Well Harry where is this secret piece of wizardry for Vapour Management?
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                                      > Geoff
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                                      It exists, but it's on the backburner for now. I have a way more important project to complete first. I've been working on it on & off for 3 years. Time to get it done!


                                      Slainte!
                                      regards Harry
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