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  • David Rowlands
    Is the fermenter air tight? If not, this could be the reason for having a zero alcohol yield. It is my humble understanding that alcohol is the by-product of
    Message 1 of 2 , Mar 2, 2000
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      Is the fermenter air tight? If not, this could be the reason for having a
      zero alcohol yield. It is my humble understanding that alcohol is the
      by-product of the anaerobic consumption of sugars by yeast. If they have a
      plentiful supply of oxygen, the yeast cells will reproduce in vast quanties
      producing C02 and more yeast cells but little ethanol. It's only when they
      are starved of O2 do they produce ethanol in large quantities.

      -----Original Message-----
      From: GhostWolf [mailto:hamlett@...]
      Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 6:06 PM
      To: distillers@onelist.com
      Subject: [Fwd: [Fwd: [Distillers] mash/wash]]


      From: GhostWolf <hamlett@...>

      Thanks again Ray,
      one more question, I have a reflux still, a Desti actually. Is it possible
      to
      distill grain alchohol in it or is that reserved for pot stills only? I'd
      like to
      do a 100% corn like they used to do.


      Ray Toms wrote:

      > From: Ray Toms <ray@...>
      >
      > Dan
      > If it has bubbled then you will have alcohol being produced, if it is a
      standard
      > Turbo (6kg of sugar) it will be very close to finishing which normaly
      happens in
      > about 3 days however it pays to leave it for at least a further 48 hours
      once it
      > stops bubbling before you distil.
      > Ray
      >
      > GhostWolf wrote:
      >
      > > From: GhostWolf <hamlett@...>
      > >
      > > Ray,
      > > That makes sense now, so it is possible it's working because it has
      been
      > > bubbling like mad and is is smelling very sour like alchohol. I do have
      the
      > > type of hydrometer you mentioned. Perhaps I will wait a couple of days
      and
      > > run it through.
      > > Thanks for the help!
      > > Dan
      > >
      > > Ray Toms wrote:
      > >
      > > > From: Ray Toms <ray@...>
      > > >
      > > > Dan
      > > > What method are you using to calculate that you have 0 alcohol ?
      > > > If you are using an alcohol hydrometer that is only for measuring the
      > > > strength of the alcohol once you have distilled it, it will not give
      you a
      > > > reading on the alcohol strength of your mash. The only easy way to
      measure
      > > > the strength of your mash is to take the starting specific gravity
      with a
      > > > beer/wine hydrometer and the finishing specific gravity and divide the
      > > > difference by 7.36
      > > > Ray
      > > >
      > > > GhostWolf wrote:
      > > >
      > > > > From: GhostWolf <hamlett@...>
      > > > >
      > > > > Hi,
      > > > > I'm new to the group and am currently in the process of fermenting
      my
      > > > > first mash. I'm going with a water/sugar/turbo wash and it is on
      the
      > > > > third day. It has been bubbling pretty good but when I went to
      check it
      > > > > with the hydrometer today, it's reading 0 alchohol so far. Does
      anyone
      > > > > have a sure-fire recipe for about 20 litres of this wash , that
      seems to
      > > > > be a common still size and no book or site I have comes out and
      gives
      > > > > exact figures for a "recipe", they are all pretty vague.
      > > > > Thanks,
      > > > > Dan
      > > > >
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    • GhostWolf
      Thanks again Ray, one more question, I have a reflux still, a Desti actually. Is it possible to distill grain alchohol in it or is that reserved for pot stills
      Message 2 of 2 , Mar 2, 2000
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        Thanks again Ray,
        one more question, I have a reflux still, a Desti actually. Is it possible to
        distill grain alchohol in it or is that reserved for pot stills only? I'd like to
        do a 100% corn like they used to do.


        Ray Toms wrote:

        > From: Ray Toms <ray@...>
        >
        > Dan
        > If it has bubbled then you will have alcohol being produced, if it is a standard
        > Turbo (6kg of sugar) it will be very close to finishing which normaly happens in
        > about 3 days however it pays to leave it for at least a further 48 hours once it
        > stops bubbling before you distil.
        > Ray
        >
        > GhostWolf wrote:
        >
        > > From: GhostWolf <hamlett@...>
        > >
        > > Ray,
        > > That makes sense now, so it is possible it's working because it has been
        > > bubbling like mad and is is smelling very sour like alchohol. I do have the
        > > type of hydrometer you mentioned. Perhaps I will wait a couple of days and
        > > run it through.
        > > Thanks for the help!
        > > Dan
        > >
        > > Ray Toms wrote:
        > >
        > > > From: Ray Toms <ray@...>
        > > >
        > > > Dan
        > > > What method are you using to calculate that you have 0 alcohol ?
        > > > If you are using an alcohol hydrometer that is only for measuring the
        > > > strength of the alcohol once you have distilled it, it will not give you a
        > > > reading on the alcohol strength of your mash. The only easy way to measure
        > > > the strength of your mash is to take the starting specific gravity with a
        > > > beer/wine hydrometer and the finishing specific gravity and divide the
        > > > difference by 7.36
        > > > Ray
        > > >
        > > > GhostWolf wrote:
        > > >
        > > > > From: GhostWolf <hamlett@...>
        > > > >
        > > > > Hi,
        > > > > I'm new to the group and am currently in the process of fermenting my
        > > > > first mash. I'm going with a water/sugar/turbo wash and it is on the
        > > > > third day. It has been bubbling pretty good but when I went to check it
        > > > > with the hydrometer today, it's reading 0 alchohol so far. Does anyone
        > > > > have a sure-fire recipe for about 20 litres of this wash , that seems to
        > > > > be a common still size and no book or site I have comes out and gives
        > > > > exact figures for a "recipe", they are all pretty vague.
        > > > > Thanks,
        > > > > Dan
        > > > >
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