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  • Ray Toms
    Oct 3, 1999
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      Sorry for the delay in reply, I was up in your neck of the woods for the
      weekend at the Christmas Gift Fair. I believe that the boiling point of
      the oils is about the same as water as many of them seem to be carried
      over when the water is carried over. There is no copywrite on the Bombay
      Saphire although bear it in mind that this is still an experimental
      The ingredients listed on the bottle are:
      Juniper Berries
      Corriander Seeds
      Cassia Bark aka Chinese Cinamon
      Cubeb Berries aka Tailed Pepper
      Grains of Paradise aka Paprika
      Lemon Peel
      Liquorice root
      Orris root
      Angelica root
      Any good brew shop should have Juniper Berries and Corriander seeds
      available (unfortunately many don't so you may have to use a herb/spice
      shop). Cassia Bark, and Grains of Paradise need to be sourced via an
      Oriental Grocer. Cubeb Berries had us stumped for a while but aparently
      is available via http://www.worldspice.com I haven't checked the site
      out yet though. Liquorice root, Orris root and Angelica root are
      available from a Herbalist/health food shop. The recipe that has been
      experimented with by my customer is:
      in 5 lt of 50% alcohol that has been carbon treated put the following,
      40 juniper berries crushed
      30 Corriander seeds crushed
      10 drops of Juniper oil (one of Des's fine products called Gin enhancer)

      2 Tablespoons Almonds (ground)
      1/2 Tablespoon Liquorice root
      1/2 Teaspoon Paprika
      1/2 Teaspoon Orris root
      2 sticks Cassia bark (broken up)
      1/2 the peel of one lemon (no pith)
      Remove the lemon after one week and leave the remainder of ingredients
      for a further 5 weeks. Strain through coffee filter. Distil in a pot
      still with 10 lt of water added. Don't treat futher with carbon, water
      down to 40% and drink.
      The amount of each ingredients was a complete guess so I would imagine
      with experimentation those quantities could change. If anyone cares to
      have a go at the recipe I would be very interested in seeing some
      results posted to this list.

      Mike wrote:

      > Dear Ray,
      > Thank you very much for your reply to my query about
      > distilling botanicals. I was amused by your description
      > of the state your pot and element ended up in and will take
      > every precaution to avoid this trap. The problem of
      > separating the resulting oils from the water is an interesting
      > one to think about. Would the oils have a higher BP than
      > water I wonder, or lower. I imagine that the scent elements
      > would have a fairly low vapour pressure or they wouldn�t be
      > much use as scents. Would a second distillation in a pot still
      > do the trick? I�ll be interested to hear what success you have
      > with the soaking in alcohol method. I have found that soaking
      > orange zest etc in ordinary vodka makes a passable basis for a
      > cointreau type liqueur, so using stronger higher strength
      > alcohol should produce good results. I�d love to know the
      > ingredients for Bombay Sapphire Gin � but know that
      > something like that will be a closely guarded family secret!
      > Mike

      Ray Toms Moonshine Supplies, Taupo. New Zealand.
      Home Brewing Equipment and Suppliers.
      Specialists in all aspects of Home Distillation and Wine/Beer Making.
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