Carbon with CSR was Re: [Digital BW] PrintFIX PRO 2.0
- Just curious how you can get a carbon print with CSR without getting loads of bronzing.
Which inkset do you recommend?
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...> wrote:
> Those who like sepia ought to see what pure carbon looks like on Crane
> Silver Rag. In my not very scientific survey, the CSR carbon was selected
> over the sepia ink print. Add to that preference the huge longevity
> advantage of the pure carbon image, and, frankly, I just totally lost
> interest in the old sepia ink. It's just not up to the longevity standards
> I think we need. This is not to say I'm ignoring the warm end of the scale,
> but I think we can do better than the old sepia formula.
>AWB is a non-ICC process; no profiles possible, not previews possible, noFor cripes sake, I have wasted SO much time then profiling all of these
>matching one device to another possible
papers... I had no idea that ICC weren't used in ABW mode.
BTW -- Is PFP 2.0 available yet? If not, when?
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>Just curious how you can get a carbon print with CSR withoutI use MIS inks and have not found the bronzing to be too bad with many
>getting loads of bronzing. Which inkset do you recommend?
glossy paper, CSR being one of them. All the MIS inksets I've been involved
with have the capability to have only the carbon inks printed. Glop is
still a useful option for those who want the best glossy prints. Several
inksets have that capability, including UT2, UT7, and the 4K+ approach with
the 2200. Frankly, a 3K+cm&Glop would work fine on a 1280 or any modern
hextone. K, LK and LLK are all one needs for outstanding printing.
>>AWB is a non-ICC process; no profiles possible, not previews possible,Grayscale file + Create ICC + ABW makes a very nice workflow that is "color
>> no matching one device to another possible
>For cripes sake, I have wasted SO much time then profiling all
>of these papers... I had no idea that ICC weren't used in ABW mode.
managed" with a grayscale ICC such that the print matches the monitor's
grayscale ramp and the density ramps of prints similarly "color managed" on
We all benefit from new workflows, but let's not ignore the excellent ones
we already have.
- I recently printed a whole exhibition using one of your curves converted to
ICC using QTR-Create-ICC-RGB linearized with my X-Rite 810 densitometer.
I made a few tests of the first two prints, but the rest I printed directly
at full size without making any test prints first. Every image printed
perfectly and looked exactly the way I wanted them.
Before creating the ICC I added a curve adjustment layer under your curve to
create a reasonably even gray ramp with no flat spots or sudden jumps. I've
found this to be essential to making a good profile.
Real ICC profile or not? I don't know... But damn useful! I love it when
things just work.
> Grayscale file + Create ICC + ABW makes a very nice workflow
> that is "color managed" with a grayscale ICC such that the
> print matches the monitor's grayscale ramp and the density
> ramps of prints similarly "color managed" on other systems.
> We all benefit from new workflows, but let's not ignore the
> excellent ones we already have.