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Re: [DebunkCreation] Re: Fw: Trying to get my head straight for the election

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  • Rudy Vonk
    ... Why, yes! (You make America sound ike a bunch of Basque terrorists...) ____________________________ Rudy Vonk Oviedo, Spain +34 607 354100
    Message 1 of 211 , Oct 1, 2008
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      On 30 sep 2008, at 00:09, Lenny Flank wrote:

      How about this one: "Hey British King, if you don't give us our own independent government, we'll shoot your soldiers and take it anyway."

      Do you object to that morality, too?

      Why, yes! (You make America sound ike a bunch of Basque terrorists...)
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      Rudy Vonk
      Oviedo, Spain
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      You can't always want what you get
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    • Jack Kilmon
      Hiya David: This goes back to the 10th when my computer crashed It looks like we can flop back and forth on issues from the left and the right and perhaps
      Message 211 of 211 , Nov 8, 2008
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        Hiya David:

        This goes back to the 10th when my computer crashed It looks like we can
        flop back and forth on issues from the left and the right and perhaps meet
        in the middle on a few (anyone who is conservative on every issue or liberal
        on every issue is a robotic moron). My lifetime lineage of presidents began
        with FDR although Herbert Hoover was still alive. ...and yes, I am a
        liberal, bleeding heart, knee-jerk, yellow dog Democrat.




        ----- Original Message -----
        From: "David Sirrine" <david1@...>
        To: <DebunkCreation@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 4:04 PM
        Subject: [DebunkCreation] Re: Fw: Trying to get my head straight for the
        election


        > --- In DebunkCreation@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Kilmon" <jkilmon@...> wrote:
        >> That's total Republican-speak nonsense. The tax revenue comes from
        > the emploYEES.
        >
        > Employees don't make money, companies do. It's a fact that when most
        > companies get squeezed, they tighten the belt by cutting benefits,
        > holding off on raises, or laying off workers. You really think Mr.
        > Owner is going to take a pay cut so he can retain Bob in the mail room?
        >
        >> > They propose windfall taxes on oil companies,
        >> > because there's no chance that oil companies will increase their
        >> > prices to make up for the lost revenue, right?
        >> So you would call a tax on the 12 BILLION in quarterly profits for
        >> Exxon-Mobile "Lost Revenue??"
        >
        > No, but Exxon-Mobil would. They have stockholders and executives to
        > answer to, and you better believe none of them are taking a cut. So
        > the tax increase gets passed on to the consumer, while the stockholder
        > still gets his dividend and the executive gets his million(s) dollar
        > bonus/golden parachute.
        >
        >> > They force banks to loosen mortgage lending restrictions so the
        > poor can buy houses they can't afford -- we see how well that turned out.
        >> That was a Republican program that took an originally good idea and
        > turned it into a fat cat feeding frenzy. The Republican mantra of
        > "deregulate" (which really means "don't look over their shoulders") is
        > responsible for this mess.
        >
        > The deregulation of the banking industry that allowed banks and
        > brokerages to pool bad loans and sell them as investments was
        > Republicanism at its finest (excuse me while I vomit). The programs
        > promoting "diversity" and "the American dream" that allowed people to
        > get loans using food stamps and welfare as income, and extra credits
        > if they were minorities, was a Democratic mandate under Clinton.
        > They're both to blame -- Dems ruined Freddie and Fannie, Reps ruined
        > credit and banking. And The Reds ruined manufacturing, while the Japs
        > ruined the auto industry. :-)
        >
        >> Biofuel is a scam.. <snip>
        >
        > You're right, everyone's got their hand in this one. Bush and his
        > cronies love giving tax subsidies to agribusinesses for all that corn
        > -- good thing Gore did all that shilling for alternative energy so the
        > mindless Greenies would jump at the chance to ruin the global food
        > markets and increase pollution at the same time. "But I'm not
        > polluting -- my electric car runs on magic!"
        >
        >> > Trickle up economics doesn't work any better than trickle down....
        > it's arbitrary oligarchy and socialism at its worst...
        >>
        >> And you prefer fascism?
        >
        > Practically, is a socialized economy with a bunch of oligarchs at the
        > top much different than fascism? Certainly doesn't feel any different
        > on the ground.
        >
        > - david
        >
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