Re: [DESG] DESG website
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Daag van Richard uit Engeland.
I am starting a Dutch evening class in a couple of weeks, but have been
lurking on this list for a month or so.
I really appreciate all the great discussions you are having and have
started a "file" of useful notes using the format others have previously
mentioned (Grammar, Phrases, etc.)
I have also been collecting all the links (niet rechts :-) that people have
included in their posts. Credit to Evely for a large number of them.
Anyway, in classic newbie fashion I thought I would include them all here as
a useful summary. I haven't visited most of them (yet) and have been too
busy digesting e-mails to even see how many are bookmarked for the group.
p.s. On a technical note - if you post to the group using "Plain Text"
rather than "Rich Text", Yahoo cannot attach those really annoying adverts
that try to download stuff if you have received e-mails and read through
them whilst offline.
Introduction to the Dutch Language (solo effort by R. Rietyink at
Think different Learn Dutch (solo effort by Chris Sonnemans
very helpful and gives you very nice links
Go to http://babel.fpms.ac.be/Dutch/, type the word "juist, (correct,
exactly)", listen to Els say it a zillion times and then think about how it
would sound if the t were dropped from the end. You may begin to think
that the English word "yes" came from the same source!
The first material I ever read is the integral dutch course at
For my pronunciation difficulties i found Ruud Harmsen' site very helpful,
The tree talk phoneme conversion at www.ilk.kub.nl/g2p-www- demo.html is a
great site. you enter any dutch or english word and you get not only the
phonetical symbol for it but also you can hear the pronunciation.
A great site for verb conjugation is www.verbix.com
A great site for tests
Some tongue twisters:
A very practical grammar site to get started is
One of the search hits was a page from a university course -- Dutch as a 2nd
language. A short course on grammar with many examples. Very helpful, IMO.
8 voor Taal. At first site, it appeared to be somewhat juvenile but I found
it to be a lot of fun and have visited often. It's a good interactive site
for beginners (has sound for pronunciation). This site also includes self
Dutch search engines such as
www.msn.nl www.lycos.nl www.zoek.nl
This site is a really good introduction;
Language resources (crammed with advertising)
A basic dictionary:
A very good online dictionary is:
unlike other dictionaries, this one has a great feature in which you can
type not only the word, but "words beginning with", "ending with"
"containing"...and therefore it is very helpful when you are searching for a
word which you are not sure about the entire spelling, or when you are
studying prefixes and suffixes
Because i ended up learning a lot of foul language at Napster Dutch
chatroom, I thought it would be helpful to access an alternative dictionary
such as the one at
(note: I do not endorse cursing)
Here are two links to loads of Dutch nursery rhymes:
www.nlpvf.nl is the site for the Nederlands Literair Produktie-en
Vertalingenfonds (the Foundation for the Production and Translation of Dutch
Literature)...this site is wonderful...if you don't know much about Dutch
writers and their work you must check this one out.
Guidebooks for the Netherlands
Dutch Linguistics Site
Merriam-Webster Online (US English dictionary w/ word origins)
Roots of English - An Etymological Dictionary*
by Prof. Eugene Cotter, Seton Hall University (cottereu@...)
I know 'het financieel dagblad' has some pages of their website translated
in English about Dutch news. But because it is a finance newspaper most is
focused on business/finance. Here is the link: http://www.fd.nl/Home.asp On
the menu in the left you can see a link 'news in English'.
Choose from a variety of them at
Link to lots of NL newspapers
Radio op Internet
Links to Dutch radio stations on-line
Radio Vlaanderen International (daily news bulletin archived twice daily)
List of stations by country (Netherlands isn't on the list but could use it
as a starting point)
Link to lots of stations (slow and sometimes fails)
Eerste ding moet je downloaden de P1 Vertaal woordenboek voor je PC. (First
thing, you must download the P1 translation dictionary for your PC.)
On-line word translation. Also powerful translation tools and dictionary
free trial and product for purchase.
(see language resources above). Direct link to translation part of the site;
Free on-line word translation between various languages
Vocabulary Master Flashcard system Register then buy cd-rom or download
To access the Yahoo! Groups web site, please visit
Dutch-English Study Group
Another list with great info:
- --- In DUTCH-ENGLISH-STUDY-GROUP@y..., "Richard Arthur" <rich@i...>
> > I have also been collecting all the links (niet rechts :-) that
> included in their posts.Hi Richard uit Engeland
wow...your list is pretty much like a quilt...the study quilt of DESG
- I shall put that under "Downloads", Evie.
I guess I can pluck a good description from their website?
Evie Fieseler (fieseler@...) schreev:
>www.p1.com <can't write "blurb" right now, but maybe later>