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[DESG] Re: we/wij en ze/zij

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  • andanda13
    halo! from what i learned mij is a bezittelijk voornaamwoord (possessive pronoun) eg: dit jas is van mij. without van with voor or van singular(enkelvoud) ik
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      halo! from what i learned mij is a bezittelijk voornaamwoord
      (possessive pronoun) eg: dit jas is van mij.

      without van with voor or van
      singular(enkelvoud)
      ik mijn mij
      jij/u jouw/je jou
      u uw u
      zij haar haar
      hij zijn hem

      plural(meervoud)
      wij ons/onze ons
      jullie jullie jullie
      zij hun hen

      i hope these helps.

      groetjes!


      --- In DUTCH-ENGLISH-STUDY-GROUP@yahoogroups.com, NORMAN REVELL
      <norman.revell@...> wrote:
      >
      > My understanding is it is little to do with formality, although
      some of the unstressed forms are rarely written and hence appear to
      be less formal.
      >
      > It is to do with stressing the word. The most common form is the
      full form or stressed (so mij, wij, jij etc) but there are unstressed
      forms (me, we, je etc), when there is no need to emphasise.
      >
      > The following table is from Dutch Grammar and Reader by Smit and
      Meijer:
      > FULL FORM UNSTRESSED FORM
      > ik 'k (rarely written)
      > mij me
      > jij je
      > jou je
      > hij ie (only used when following a
      conjunction or a finite verb; hardly ever written)
      > hem 'm (rarely written)
      > zij (she) ze
      > haar 'r or d'r (rarely written)
      > het (subj. and obj.) 't
      > wij we
      > jullie (subj. and obj.) je
      > zij (they) ze
      > hen, hun ze
      >
      > Hope that helps
      >
      > Norman
      >
      >
      > ----- Original Message ----
      > From: Sarah Comley <asianesque@...>
      > To: DUTCH-ENGLISH-STUDY-GROUP@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Friday, 29 February, 2008 1:28:28 AM
      > Subject: Re: [DESG] Re: we/wij en ze/zij
      >
      > yer, they're both dutch but "me" is less formal than "mij" and the
      same with "wij" and "zij" and "hij",
      > blah blah blah. ...hope that explained it enough. :D
      >
      > ----- Original Message ----
      > From: lzm <ajhacksu@gmail. com>
      > To: DUTCH-ENGLISH- STUDY-GROUP@ yahoogroups. com
      > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 6:31:20 PM
      > Subject: Re: [DESG] Re: we/wij en ze/zij
      >
      > I'm also confused by mij/me. Is me and we valid dutch or it is
      > imported from english?
      >
      > On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Chris Peters <beta_leonis@
      hotmail.com> wrote:
      > >
      > > From what I understand: wij and zij are more formal (used in more
      formal
      > > situations) than we and ze. Otherwise their meaning is identical.
      > >
      > > :Chris
      > >
      > >
      > > To: DUTCH-ENGLISH- STUDY-GROUP@ yahoogroups. comFrom:
      > > dimas33139@yahoo. comDate: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:11:46
      +0000Subject: [DESG] Re:
      > > we/wij en ze/zij
      > >
      > > hallo!,ik okk leer spreek nederlands,well, i dont know if i
      misspell aether
      > > but you may try this page whichis very
      > > goodhttp://www. dutchgrammar. com/en/index. php--- In
      > > DUTCH-ENGLISH- STUDY-GROUP@ yahoogroups. com, "andanda13"<
      andanda13@ ...>
      > > wrote:>> hello! i have started learning dutch last month but i'm
      a bit
      > > confused > with the difference of the we and wij and also the ze
      and zij.
      > > when > will i use we/wij or ze/zij?> > bedankt!> > groetjes,>
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