Re: [DCU] Re: Characteristics that Make a Excellent Super Villain
- You know Jason, you make an awfully convincing case in favour of Stan's comment.
DR. ORIENT ROHMER
--- On Sat, 2/28/09, Jason Case <nightavenger25@...> wrote:
From: Jason Case <nightavenger25@...>
Subject: [DCU] Re: Characteristics that Make a Excellent Super Villain
Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 9:28 PM
What I really don't understand is Stan Lee saying super villains
don't need to be neccessarly evil just at odds with the super hero,
and breaking a law or laws. I can name a number of super villains
that are evil.
Most Super Villains are evil some of them know it, others think they
aren't doing anything bad just taking a approach to accomplish
something that isn't accepted by Society.
Joker All he does is evil but to him it's funny, and thinks the world
is insane so acting insane with no attachment is the solution.
Ultron He hates humanity, and maimed a entire country. That just
Ras Al Ghul Maybe he was born in a place where terrorism is
considered normal. In his eyes he's a hero for his cause to preserve
the enviorment. For him the only to accomplish that is kill of most
of the Human Population. Using any forms of explosives he's just
contributing to polution.
Jackal Another case of brillance being used for evil, and a hatred
for Spider Man. He mislead Punisher that Spidey was a villain just so
he would do his dirty work. Such a swine.
Kingpin Seems like the Evil Version of the American Dream.
Arcade He get's payed to kill. With a talent for creating more Murder
Worlds he enjoys people suffering to see if they can outwit him in
what he views a game. Kind of seems like predeccesor of Jigsaw from
the Saw Series.
Lobo Denied Entry to Heaven, and Hell what better way to infuriate
others by acting like a Vile Savage. Destroyed most people on his
Loki Branded the Master of Mischief constantly mistrusted what better
way to payback than to live up to the Infamous title of The Master of
Mischief which makes Thor hate him.
Apocalypse The strong should destroy the weak. He hasn't thought of
going after a strong opponent like say Blackheart because Blackheart
would trounce him with absolute ease.
Dark Angel She's Pure Evil. Called the Bringer of Doom, and will
bedevil people foolish enough to summon her.
Red Skull A ugly savage Nazi.
Thanos He enjoys death and has commited genocide by destroying
Planets which he also enjoys. That's Nefarious evil.
Blackheart Just as evil as his father Mephisto.
Mongul The whole Warworld seems like a Alien Version of Ancient Rome
Gladiators. He enjoys being a savage vile dictator.
Venom (Eddie Brock) So delusional he thinks he's the good guy and
Spidey is the villain. Furthermore he'll let no innocents come to
harm yet he teamed up with murduring psychopath Carnage, and killed a
Sinestro Seems about the same as Darth Vador. The Green Lantern Corps
is who he worked with before going evil. To him the Green Lantern
Corps is Evil, the Universe to him is not running right currently so
the ends justify the means. He doesn't view himself Evil further more
he acted as a narrow minded dictator on his home planet. He must
truly be insane to think acting like a dictator is not bad at all.
Cheetah She must think the world is a jungle no different than Wild
Jungles so being a murduring cannibal is the way to live for her.
Dr.Light He's aware that he is evil, add in enjoys rape, and murder.
Green Goblin (Norman Osborne) He's attempted to make Peter Parker's
life hell since he found out Peter is Spider Man. I think that deep
down Norman is jealous that he isn't be a humble kind compassionate
considerate person like Peter while Osborne is the kind of guy you
would want to bash his head in.
Lucifer, Mephisto Two Super Villains that act like vile Devils.
Carnage Thrives on murder and chaos. Just as low as the Joker.
Zsasz A psychopath that kills for the thrill of it.
Dr.Doom The overconfident super genius that lacks empathy to
understand that he's hurting people. To him he's never wrong, and
thinks most of what he does is for the good of his country.
Sabretooth A savage with 0 respect for humans, and most others. He's
psychologically tortured Wolverine, and was such a large threat that
Wolverine decided he had to be killed.
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> What I really don't understand is Stan Lee saying super villainsthey
> don't need to be neccessarly evil just at odds with the super hero,
> and breaking a law or laws. I can name a number of super villains
> that are evil.
> Most Super Villains are evil some of them know it, others think
> aren't doing anything bad just taking a approach to accomplishBasically, that is the crux of the comment made by Stan Lee. Denny
> something that isn't accepted by Society.
O'neil once said of golden age comics, that a villain could just
appear, and say that they were evil or that they were a villain, and
this was typical of the comics of the day. Stan Lee wrote his
villains in a different matter, often giving them a similar goal to
the hero, but had a line that they would cross, whereas the hero
The best villains are the ones who do not think of themselves as
evil. Magneto has the same goal as Prof X...equality for mutants.
But whereas Xavier wants to coexist with humans, Magneto wants to
enslave humanity. Both approaches would accomplish the same thing,
but Magneto crosses a line.
Your example of Dr Doom...bottom line, he is a dictator, much like
Castro and his like. We view these leaders as evil, because being
from a democratic society, we think that this is a bad way to lead a
country, but dictatorships do exist, and will exist for many years.
What a dictatorship does within his country, and to his people, other
nations will look away, it's only when they start things outside
their borders, that others will react. Otherwise, why not just march
into Latveria and arrest Doom? Because all Dr Doom wants to do is
take over the world. Guess what? That is not a crime, nor can you
be thrown in jail for saying that you want to do such a thing.
There aren't many characters in comics that can be defined as pure
evil. Darkseid can be put into that category, to a degree.
Mephisto, Malebolgia, ie any demonic characters or variations of
Satan. Other than that, there just aren't many villains who are evil,
just for the sake of being evil.