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5919Re: [DCU] Spiderman is simply the best! Nothing can compare.

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  • Larry Talbot
    Jul 31, 2009
      In the original concept, Krypton's destruction was pretty much in the abstract. Like telling an adopted child his "real" parents died when he was very young. You feel bad about it, but it isn't as personal as, say, watching them gunned down in an alley. The original Kent's death was sad, yes, but it wasn't tramatic as, well, the alley thing. They died of old age and Clark was old enough to handle it. Face it, Supes didn't have any trauma forming his character until much later (accursed retcons!) The Burne Superman was born after Krypton's destruction, and his human parents were still alive until the recent loss of Jonathan Kent. He didn't even know he was Kryptonian until after he bevame Superman. Unpleasent, yes. Sad, yes. Even traumatic, but Superman has already been on his path for some time, so it isn't connected to how he turned out.

      Der Wolf

      Ululo Ergo Sum

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      "English is the result of Norman Men-at-Arms making dates with Saxon Barmaids."
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      Yes, they did. The Entire Population of Krypton, and (in the Silver Age Re-Telling,) Jonathan and Martha Kent did... The first one especially, could make a megalomaniac, but didn't. Kal-El/Superman would go on to be Earth-1's greatest and most respected hero...
      Jonathan Michael Reiter
      jmr
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      Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 9:32 AM
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      When Superman first started out, his power level wasn't much higher that Spideys. His powere were even compared to the insect kingdom in terms of strength and leaping ability. Over time he just got stronger and stronger until he could shove planets out of orbit. Now he is in the 120 ton class (more or less). But back in his beginnings Superman was actually unpopular with the police, leaping away before they could quesstion or detain him (as if). Today he is stronger than Thor, faster than Quicksilver, and shrugs of atomic explosions. Yet rather than set himself up as a God-King, he helps and protects people. And nobody had to die to get him to do so (Uncle Ben, Uncle Ben, waaaaaaah!) Superman was the first Super-Hero. Yeah, the Shadow and Doc Savage were in the pulps, but they were more like detective adventurers than super-heroes. Superman became the mold from which all others were cast. Supes, Bats and Wonder Woman were the only ones to survive the 50s intact. It was the resurgence of super-heroes at DC that spawned the industry as we know it today. No DC, no Marvel, no angst-ridden Spidey.

      Spidey is OK, but way to much angst. He's the Woody Allen of the spandex set. He was just getting really interesting with his new power levels (no more wimpy web-shooters, spike from his wrist, faster, stronger, more confident) and Marvel retconned his ass via Mephisto. Now he's back to his old job, unmarried, wimpy web-shooters and old power levels.

      Der Wolf

      Ululo Ergo Sum

      http://wulfmann.wordpress.com/

      "English is the result of Norman Men-at-Arms making dates with Saxon Barmaids."
      H. Beam Piper

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Cash Grinder
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      Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 6:01 AM
      Subject: [DCU] Spiderman is simply the best! Nothing can compare.

      Spiderman is the best. Any comments on that?

      It's not a huge deal but you might want to see what other people had to say about your group.

      http://2short.net/fV

      Unlike Superman (who is technically alien) Spiderman has to live like
      every other human and even when he’s saving the world people don’t
      automatically trust that he’s the good guy. He has to earn his
      integrity: it’s not just handed to him for having superpowers which he
      doesn’t use to kill people.
      The world of Spiderman isn’t afraid to explore the gray area.

      http://2short.net/fV

      Regards,

      Camilla Timbers

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      HEY, CAMILLA! This is about DC Characters! Try the Marvel Comics Uncensored Yahoo Group if you want to talk about Spiderman, a Capice?
      JMR (moderator)

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