- Look for "orders of magnitude" on google and you will find the following

nice explanation :

"Many pretentious writers have begun to use the expression "orders of

magnitude" without understanding what it means. The concept derives from the

scientific notation of very large numbers in which each order of magnitude

is ten times the previous one. When the bacteria in a flask have multiplied

from some hundreds to some thousands, it is very handy to say that their

numbers have increased by an order of magnitude, and when they have

increased to some millions, that their numbers have increased by four orders

of magnitude.

Number language generally confuses people. Many seem to suppose that a 100%

increase must be pretty much the same as an increase by an order of

magnitude, but in fact such an increase represents merely a doubling of

quantity. A "hundredfold" increase is even bigger: one hundred times as

much. If you don't have a firms grasp on such concepts, it's best to avoid

the expression altogether (I don't quite agree, one should learn it in

translating technical documents. D.P.). After all, "Our audience is ten

times as big now as when the show opened" makes the same point more clearly

than "Our audience has increased by an order of magnitude."

D. P.

Original message:

1. Re: r^a'dove^|y'

From: Michael Trittipo <tritt002@... Message: 1

Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 16:20:08 -0500

From: Michael Trittipo <tritt002@...>

Subject: Re: r^a'dove^|y'

A am always struggling with term øádový, øádovì in the following meaning:>Hodnota se pohybovala øádovì v tisících.

For the first, "roughly in the thousands" or "in ranges measured in

>Vznikl øádový posun.

thousands" might work.

For the second, "by an order of magnitude" would be OK in my book, although

some here have found "order of magnitude" bookish or fear it to be misused

by the type of people who misuse "quantum." Saying that the decimal point

got shoved too far right or left is probably too informal.

________________________________________________________________________ - Hi,

as I had in mind mathematical meaning of the word used in different

technical texts, I am quite satisfied.

Thanks everybody

Sarka

-----Original Message-----

From: Dusan Papousek [mailto:Papousek@...]

Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 2:02 PM

To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [Czechlist] Re: radove (orders of magnitude)

Look for "orders of magnitude" on google and you will find the following

nice explanation :

"Many pretentious writers have begun to use the expression "orders of

magnitude" without understanding what it means. The concept derives from the

scientific notation of very large numbers in which each order of magnitude

is ten times the previous one. When the bacteria in a flask have multiplied

from some hundreds to some thousands, it is very handy to say that their

numbers have increased by an order of magnitude, and when they have

increased to some millions, that their numbers have increased by four orders

of magnitude.

Number language generally confuses people. Many seem to suppose that a 100%

increase must be pretty much the same as an increase by an order of

magnitude, but in fact such an increase represents merely a doubling of

quantity. A "hundredfold" increase is even bigger: one hundred times as

much. If you don't have a firms grasp on such concepts, it's best to avoid

the expression altogether (I don't quite agree, one should learn it in

translating technical documents. D.P.). After all, "Our audience is ten

times as big now as when the show opened" makes the same point more clearly

than "Our audience has increased by an order of magnitude."

D. P.

Original message:

1. Re: r^a'dove^|y'

From: Michael Trittipo <tritt002@... Message: 1

Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 16:20:08 -0500

From: Michael Trittipo <tritt002@...>

Subject: Re: r^a'dove^|y'

A am always struggling with term øádový, øádovì in the following meaning:>Hodnota se pohybovala øádovì v tisících.

For the first, "roughly in the thousands" or "in ranges measured in

>Vznikl øádový posun.

thousands" might work.

For the second, "by an order of magnitude" would be OK in my book, although

some here have found "order of magnitude" bookish or fear it to be misused

by the type of people who misuse "quantum." Saying that the decimal point

got shoved too far right or left is probably too informal.

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