## Re: radove (orders of magnitude)

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• Look for orders of magnitude on google and you will find the following nice explanation : Many pretentious writers have begun to use the expression orders
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Look for "orders of magnitude" on google and you will find the following
nice explanation :

"Many pretentious writers have begun to use the expression "orders of
magnitude" without understanding what it means. The concept derives from the
scientific notation of very large numbers in which each order of magnitude
is ten times the previous one. When the bacteria in a flask have multiplied
from some hundreds to some thousands, it is very handy to say that their
numbers have increased by an order of magnitude, and when they have
increased to some millions, that their numbers have increased by four orders
of magnitude.

Number language generally confuses people. Many seem to suppose that a 100%
increase must be pretty much the same as an increase by an order of
magnitude, but in fact such an increase represents merely a doubling of
quantity. A "hundredfold" increase is even bigger: one hundred times as
much. If you don't have a firms grasp on such concepts, it's best to avoid
the expression altogether (I don't quite agree, one should learn it in
translating technical documents. D.P.). After all, "Our audience is ten
times as big now as when the show opened" makes the same point more clearly
than "Our audience has increased by an order of magnitude."

D. P.

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1. Re: r^a'dove^|y'
From: Michael Trittipo <tritt002@... Message: 1
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 16:20:08 -0500
From: Michael Trittipo <tritt002@...>
Subject: Re: r^a'dove^|y'

A am always struggling with term øádový, øádovì in the following meaning:
>Hodnota se pohybovala øádovì v tisících.
>Vznikl øádový posun.

For the first, "roughly in the thousands" or "in ranges measured in
thousands" might work.

For the second, "by an order of magnitude" would be OK in my book, although
some here have found "order of magnitude" bookish or fear it to be misused
by the type of people who misuse "quantum." Saying that the decimal point
got shoved too far right or left is probably too informal.

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• Hi, as I had in mind mathematical meaning of the word used in different technical texts, I am quite satisfied. Thanks everybody Sarka ... From: Dusan Papousek
Message 2 of 2 , Oct 2, 2001
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Hi,
as I had in mind mathematical meaning of the word used in different
technical texts, I am quite satisfied.

Thanks everybody

Sarka

-----Original Message-----
From: Dusan Papousek [mailto:Papousek@...]
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 2:02 PM
To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Czechlist] Re: radove (orders of magnitude)

Look for "orders of magnitude" on google and you will find the following
nice explanation :

"Many pretentious writers have begun to use the expression "orders of
magnitude" without understanding what it means. The concept derives from the
scientific notation of very large numbers in which each order of magnitude
is ten times the previous one. When the bacteria in a flask have multiplied
from some hundreds to some thousands, it is very handy to say that their
numbers have increased by an order of magnitude, and when they have
increased to some millions, that their numbers have increased by four orders
of magnitude.

Number language generally confuses people. Many seem to suppose that a 100%
increase must be pretty much the same as an increase by an order of
magnitude, but in fact such an increase represents merely a doubling of
quantity. A "hundredfold" increase is even bigger: one hundred times as
much. If you don't have a firms grasp on such concepts, it's best to avoid
the expression altogether (I don't quite agree, one should learn it in
translating technical documents. D.P.). After all, "Our audience is ten
times as big now as when the show opened" makes the same point more clearly
than "Our audience has increased by an order of magnitude."

D. P.

Original message:

1. Re: r^a'dove^|y'
From: Michael Trittipo <tritt002@... Message: 1
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 16:20:08 -0500
From: Michael Trittipo <tritt002@...>
Subject: Re: r^a'dove^|y'

A am always struggling with term øádový, øádovì in the following meaning:
>Hodnota se pohybovala øádovì v tisících.
>Vznikl øádový posun.

For the first, "roughly in the thousands" or "in ranges measured in
thousands" might work.

For the second, "by an order of magnitude" would be OK in my book, although
some here have found "order of magnitude" bookish or fear it to be misused
by the type of people who misuse "quantum." Saying that the decimal point
got shoved too far right or left is probably too informal.

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