--- In Czechlist@y..., "Simon Vaughan" <rachelandsimon@q...> wrote:
> > > If Scottish is a separate language,
> > I have never met a Scot who claimed Scottish English is a separate
> > language. Have you?
> We could maybe make a distinction here between Scottish English
> standard English spoken with a Scottish accent and sprinkled with a
> typically Scottish expressions) and Scots
Is Scots ever referred to as Scottish? And BTW do you know what its
relationship is with the 'Lallands' of Robert Burns?
'A language is a dialect plus an army and a navy' says the old saw,
but I suppose that would also exclude Geordie, Lanky twang (ayup is
tha goorn to t'pub, chuck?'), Scouse, Yorkshire (tintintin = it isn't
in the tin) Zomerzet and Estuaryenglishsniff, which hardly seems fair
an offshoot of Old English and scarcely
> the Sassenach, which differs from standard English in grammar as
> vocabulary). The latter, arguably, is as distinct from English as
> is from Czech, maybe more so.
FWIW I hear that Slovak is closer in grammar and lexis to Czech than
the northern and southern dialects of German are to each other. I'd
rate Czech and Slovak as about 99.5% mutually intelligible (I hear
that younger Czechs have difficulty with one or two Slovak words these
days) which is a lot higher than Scots, Geordie, Scouse and 'Middle
As for Wyckliffe or Wycliffe or Wyclif, I don't know about any
standard spelling but those dictionaries I have which mention him give
the pronunciation as [wiklif]. Never heard a glottal stop in the
middle. That would make him sound like a sleazy guest house in some
wasteland southern holiday resort.