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  • wustpisk
    If it is for a Standard English/European audience, then tried and tested (or as a backup possibly tried and trusted , but it isn t common usage) is your
    Message 1 of 32 , Jun 21, 2013
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      If it is for a Standard English/European audience, then 'tried and tested' (or as a backup possibly 'tried and trusted', but it isn't common usage) is your only option. I had never heard of 'tried and true' before yesterday, but sounds a bit odd to me. I would probably correct that as well.
      I'd just let him have what he wants - it isn't wrong, it isn't Czenglish or Germlish, and then it is done and dusted.

      --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, "Matej Klimes" <mklimes@...> wrote:
      >
      > If 'tried and tested' is too much of a tautology for you and 'tried and
      > true' too American for the client, what about
      >
      > "Tried and trusted"?
      >
      > That seems to tick all the boxes:
      >
      > http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/tried%2Band%2Btested%2Bor%2Btried%2Band%2Btrusted%2Bor%2Bnorth%2Bamerican%2Btried%2Band%2Btrue___1
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      > ------ Original Message ------
      > From: "James Kirchner" <czechlist@...>
      > To: czechlist@...
      > Sent: 21.6.2013 5:56:14
      > Subject: Re: [Czechlist] "tried-and-..."
      > > Attested or not, the term sounds so stupid to me that I want to avoid
      > >it.
      > >
      > >I have clients wanting Germlish or Czenglish, but I don't give it to
      > >them. The best thing is just to use another term. The only reason he
      > >got this "tried-and-..." bug in his rear end is that I used the term
      > >"tried-and-true". If I hadn't chosen that term, he'd never have
      > >thought about it, so I see nothing wrong with using a completely
      > >different sort of term that neither one of us will complain about.
      > >
      > >Jamie
      > >
      > >On Jun 20, 2013, at 10:24 PM, wustpisk wrote:
      > >
      > >> Nothing wrong with tried and tested, IMO http://www.usingenglish.com/reference/idioms/tried+and+tested.html
      > >> http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/tried+and+tested
      > >> http://www.businesstraveller.com/tried-and-tested
      > >>
      > >> If that is what the customer wants, let him have it, after all koho
      > >chleba jis, toho pisen zpivej ...
      > >>
      > >> --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, James Kirchner <czechlist@> wrote:
      > >>>
      > >>> Let me pick people's brains, please.
      > >>>
      > >>> In North America, we use an expression "tried-and-true", meaning
      > >that something has gone through repeated use and testing and has shown
      > >itself to do what it's supposed to.
      > >>>
      > >>> "a tried-and-true method"
      > >>> "a tried-and-true solution"
      > >>> "a tried-and-true device"
      > >>>
      > >>> A client of a client of mine (a non-native English speaker) hates
      > >this expression for some reason, and wants me to say
      > >"tried-and-tested". To me, "tried-and-tested" sounds like tautological
      > >nonsense, as if people keep trying something and testing it but still
      > >can't tell if works.
      > >>>
      > >>> I'm looking for synonyms so that I don't have to use either of
      > >these "tried-and-..." expressions. Then neither the client's client or
      > >I will have anything to complain about.
      > >>>
      > >>> The only synonym I can think of right now is "proven" (a proven
      > >method, a proven machine, a proven device, etc.).
      > >>>
      > >>> Can anyone think of other synonyms?
      > >>>
      > >>> Jamie
      > >>>
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    • James Kirchner
      Some of this doesn t make any sense. What is qrowed ? The phrased realised on the test is almost certainly foreigner English. Jamie ...
      Message 32 of 32 , Jun 24, 2013
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        Some of this doesn't make any sense.

        What is "qrowed"?

        The phrased "realised on the test" is almost certainly foreigner English.

        Jamie

        On Jun 24, 2013, at 11:40 AM, Milan wrote:

        > Pohled do 3 prekladovych pameti, CS-EN nabizi nekolik prekladu "vyzkousen"
        >
        > 1. video-titulky, 11.836.569 segmentu
        >
        > "vyzkousen" 109 x
        >
        > en: tested, proven, checked, had done, tried, (quizzed), qrowed,
        >
        > 2. DGT 2011, 1.884.470 segmentu
        >
        > "vyzkousen" 44 x
        >
        > en: tested, tried, proven, is realised on the test,
        >
        > 3. EMEA, 335.516 segmentu
        >
        > "vyzkousen" 15 x
        >
        > en: has been studied, has been proven, approved, is proven, tested
        >
        > Lehce zkouseny nic nenapsat,
        >
        > Milan
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        > --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, James Kirchner <czechlist@...> wrote:
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