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Re: [Czechlist] CHAT: "Things that are offensive tou (REVISITED: Zamereni)

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  • Hannah Geiger
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    Message 1 of 20 , Apr 1, 2013
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      On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 4:17 PM, "wustpisk" <gerry.vickers@...> wrote:

      > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkLRZzukcJc
      >
      > --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, James Kirchner <czechlist@...> wrote:
      > >
      > > Actually, a visit to the UK and just watching the British TV shows that
      > come our way do a pretty good job of disabusing Americans of the notion
      > that the British are more civilized than we are.
      > >
      > > Here's something from the companion article on the BBC website about
      > things Brits do to annoy Americans:
      > >
      > > > Saying Americans are unsophisticated
      > > > Even if you're standing in line at Disney World, slurping a bucket of
      > Pepsi and thinking, "My, this is country is a cultureless void," don't
      > voice it publicly. After all, you're the one who bought the swimming
      > pool-size soda and a ticket to a theme park rather than, say, the
      > Guggenheim.
      > >
      > > Yesterday a friend told me a funny story about a young Englishman who
      > arrived in Chicago to volunteer at an institution he works at. The girls
      > were all dazzled by this guy's English accent, and he couldn't believe how
      > many attractive young women were flocking after him. In a few days,
      > however, the girls started feeling cheated, because beneath the guy's
      > "sophisticated" sounding accent was a near total lack of culture. First
      > the girls noticed that he didn't know the most basic things about European
      > history, and his life of a babe magnet deflated from there.
      > >
      > > Jamie
      > >
      > > On Apr 1, 2013, at 3:55 PM, Hannah Geiger wrote:
      > >
      > > > I love it.
      > > >
      > > > Personally, lots of Brits settle in America for one reason only:
      > because it
      > > > feels so bloody good not to have to be civilised at all. Ha Ha.
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 3:40 PM, "wustpisk" <gerry.vickers@...> wrote:
      > > >
      > > >> I saw this and I thought of you - maybe you ought to invest in some :)
      > > >>
      > http://m.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/apr/01/guardian-goggles-augmented-reality-specs
      > > >>
      > > >> --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, James Kirchner <czechlist@> wrote:
      > > >>>
      > > >>> At least the BBC was balanced in this case, also running an article
      > on
      > > >> offensive British behavior:
      > > >>>
      > > >>
      > http://www.bbcamerica.com/mind-the-gap/2013/01/24/10-things-brits-dont-realize-are-offensive-to-americans/
      > > >>>
      > > >>> Comments on the Americans offensive to Brits article:
      > > >>>
      > > >>> No offering to buy a round
      > > >>> Americans buy rounds in certain types of situations and not in
      > others.
      > > >> When you've got three or four good friends sitting there, and they're
      > not
      > > >> going to be drinking gallons and gallons, Americans often buy rounds.
      > If
      > > >> the group consists of the full cast of The Ten Commandments, most of
      > whom
      > > >> are strangers, and they're all alcoholics, an American will want
      > separate
      > > >> bills.
      > > >>>
      > > >>> Taking our plates away
      > > >>> Americans don't like the clutter of empty plates, and they'd rather
      > have
      > > >> it all cleared away and just sit there with their drink, dessert, or
      > > >> whatever. It's no judgement about the speed of anyone's eating, so
      > the
      > > >> Brit's too paranoid here.
      > > >>>
      > > >>> Talking in the cinema
      > > >>> I don't know any American who is not offended by people talking in
      > the
      > > >> movie theater, except for the people who are talking. However, the
      > fact
      > > >> that the Brit just sits there and endures it shows he lacks the spine
      > to
      > > >> tell the people to shut up. Most of them will. If they don't, you
      > get the
      > > >> usher or manager to tell them to shut up or to kick them out.
      > > >>>
      > > >>> Making introductions
      > > >>> Why are the Brits so unfriendly that they won't introduce themselves?
      > > >>>
      > > >>> Therapy talk
      > > >>> I don't know any American who will blather on about his therapy,
      > because
      > > >> that's a private matter. Whoever wrote this article must have been
      > > >> spending all his time around rich secular people in the East, who
      > have the
      > > >> money to pay for a therapist as recreation and doesn't go to a church
      > or
      > > >> synagogue. Maybe he just got this from old Woody Allen movies. Most
      > > >> Americans only get therapy if something serious is wrong (and often
      > not
      > > >> even then).
      > > >>>
      > > >>> Describing something as "quite good"
      > > >>> The fact that his is even an issue shows that the Brits must have
      > been
      > > >> using the expression insincerely for so long that the meaning changed.
      > > >> Something like saying, "Well, done!" to mean everything from, "Well,
      > > >> done!" to, "You botched it!" Very Japanese.
      > > >>>
      > > >>> Complaining
      > > >>> If someone is being cheated, taken advantage of, receiving bad
      > service,
      > > >> etc., he deserves to have the situation remedied in the moment. It's
      > kind
      > > >> of despicable to say nothing at the time and then go gossip about it
      > later.
      > > >> This is why John Cleese couldn't get a refund for the dead parrot. In
      > > >> fact, the complaining may be benevolent, because the establishment
      > may be
      > > >> unaware of the problem and will WANT to fix it.
      > > >>>
      > > >>> Over-politeness
      > > >>> Most Americans could do without the greeters at the doors of Walmart
      > or
      > > >> Meijer's, but there's nothing wrong with asking if someone needs help
      > or
      > > >> information. Often they do. Many Europeans tend to think it's
      > over-polite
      > > >> to be spoken to at all, as did a German I met who got angry because a
      > > >> waitress making her rounds routinely asked just once if he wanted his
      > > >> coffee cup refilled (free of charge). One German even went so far as
      > to
      > > >> tell me that if a customer can't find something, "That's his
      > problem!" and
      > > >> that the staff shouldn't speak to him or offer to help.
      > > >>>
      > > >>> Jamie
      > > >>>
      > > >>> On Mar 30, 2013, at 3:57 PM, wustpisk wrote:
      > > >>>
      > > >>>> OK
      > > >>>>
      > > >>>>
      > > >>
      > http://www.bbcamerica.com/mind-the-gap/2013/01/29/10-things-americans-dont-realize-are-offensive-to-brits/
      > > >>>>
      > > >>>> (the picture is quite apt :) )
      > > >>>>
      > > >>>> --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, James Kirchner <czechlist@>
      > wrote:
      > > >>>>>
      > > >>>>> There's no "Like" button, so you have to contribute an arrogant
      > > >> statement.
      > > >>>>>
      > > >>>>> JK
      > > >>>>>
      > > >>>>> On Mar 30, 2013, at 3:22 PM, wustpisk wrote:
      > > >>>>>
      > > >>>>>>
      > > >>>>>> (where's the 'like' button on this thing?)
      > > >>>>>>
      > > >>>>>> --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, Charles Stanford
      > > >> <charliestanfordtranslations@> wrote:
      > > >>>>>>>
      > > >>>>>>> Give it a break Jamie
      > > >>>>>>>
      > > >>>>>>>
      > > >>>>>>> On 30 March 2013 14:48, James Kirchner <czechlist@> wrote:
      > > >>>>>>>
      > > >>>>>>>> **
      > > >>>>>>>>
      > > >>>>>>>>
      > > >>>>>>>>
      > > >>>>>>>> On Mar 30, 2013, at 6:03 AM, Melvyn wrote:
      > > >>>>>>>>
      > > >>>>>>>>> You work in US academia. In Britain the expression "specialist
      > > >> subject"
      > > >>>>>>>> is totally commonplace. Do these sound odd to you too?
      > Specialist
      > > >> subject
      > > >>>>>>>> degree, specialist subject teacher, specialist interest courses,
      > > >> specialist
      > > >>>>>>>> interest groups, specialist college, specialist science college
      > > >> (my old
      > > >>>>>>>> grammar school is now one), specialist school...? All can be
      > found
      > > >> on UK
      > > >>>>>>>> (plus Aussie and NZ) educational and not-for-profit sites. Even
      > > >>>>>>>> bilingualism gets a Specialist Interest Group
      > > >>>>>>>>> http://www.londonsigbilingualism.co.uk/
      > > >>>>>>>>
      > > >>>>>>>> Yes, most of them sound odd to me.
      > > >>>>>>>>
      > > >>>>>>>>
      > > >>>>>>>>> So again you come across something unfamiliar and immediately
      > say
      > > >> it
      > > >>>>>>>> sounds mighty Czech.
      > > >>>>>>>>>
      > > >>>>>>>>> But don't let me stop you doing this. I am sure even you will
      > see
      > > >> the
      > > >>>>>>>> funny side eventually.
      > > >>>>>>>>
      > > >>>>>>>> At least I don't freak out when I find that most English
      > speakers
      > > >> don't
      > > >>>>>>>> understand my state's localisms, which is something that British
      > > >> on this
      > > >>>>>>>> list seem to do. Tell them that "flobblekabobble" or something
      > is
      > > >> "British
      > > >>>>>>>> slang" and that it won't be understood by the majority of native
      > > >> speakers,
      > > >>>>>>>> and it becomes a national insult. I'm still asking educated
      > people
      > > >> of all
      > > >>>>>>>> ages if they know what "suss out" means, and they just stare
      > > >> blankly and
      > > >>>>>>>> have no idea. Same thing with "the mains", which even licensed
      > > >> electricians-
      > > >>>>>>>> don't understand.
      > > >>>>>>>>
      > > >>>>>>>> Jamie
      > > >>>>>>>>
      > > >>>>>>>>
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