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  • Matej Klimes
    ... nìjaké naøízené inkasní platby (tøeba v pøípadì exekuce z úètu) - ty pak zrušit nemùžu. A Tobe uz nekdy udelal eShop exekuci na uctu? Ten
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      > V kontextu toho seznamu platebních zpùsobù to zní, jako kdyby to byly
      nìjaké naøízené inkasní platby (tøeba v pøípadì exekuce z úètu) - ty
      pak zrušit nemùžu.

      A Tobe uz nekdy udelal eShop exekuci na uctu? Ten text byl nejaky
      blabol z EU o podminkach pro elektronicke obchody, rikala Sabina...
      nekdo v Bruselu se asi ukec.. nedava to moc smysl..

      M
      ------ Original Message ------
      From: "Pavel" <PavelJanousek@...>
      To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: 19.3.2013 20:49:57
      Subject: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
      > Ahoj,
      >
      >podle mì povolení k inkasu zadávám já jako plátce tøeba úètu za
      >telefon, pøíkaz k inkasu pak posílá mùj telefonní operátor na základì
      >mého povolení k inkasu. Zrušit pøíkaz nemùžu, já ho nezadávám, ale
      >povolení k inkasu zrušit mùžu. To je ale asi jasné.
      >
      >V kontextu toho seznamu platebních zpùsobù to zní, jako kdyby to byly
      >nìjaké naøízené inkasní platby (tøeba v pøípadì exekuce z úètu) - ty
      >pak zrušit nemùžu.
      >
      >Pavel
      >
      >--- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, "Sabina Králová" <sabina.kralova@...>
      >wrote:
      >>
      >> Ahoj Martine,
      >>
      >> diky. Mozna by to mohlo byt ono. Pokud mi zakaznik neposle
      >vysvetleni, tak to pouziju s poznamkou pod carou.
      >> Sabina
      >> -------- Původní zpráva -------
      >> Od: Martin Janda <mjanda@...>
      >> Komu: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
      >> Předmět: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
      >> Datum: 18.03.2013 16:25
      >> ---------------------------------------
      >> >
      >> > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://wwww3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
      >> >
      >> > Â
      >> >
      >> > Jsem, podivej:
      >> >
      >> > https://www.google.com/search?q=%22p%C5%99%C3%ADkaz+k+inkasu%22&ie=UTF-8
      >> >
      >> > Martin
      >> >
      >> > Dne 18.3.2013 12:50, Pilucha, Jiri napsal(a):
      >> >
      >> >>
      >> >
      >> >> martine jses si jist, ze nezamenujes prikaz k uhrade a souhlas s
      >inkasem?
      >> >
      >> >>
      >> >
      >> >>
      >> >
      >> >> From: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
      >> >
      >> >> [mailto: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
      >> >
      >> >> <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Martin Janda
      >> >
      >> >> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:39 PM
      >> >
      >> >> To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
      >> >
      >> >> Subject: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
      >> >
      >> >>
      >> >
      >> >>
      >> >
      >> >>
      >> >
      >> >> Mozna existuje rozdil mezi svolenim k inkasu a prikazem k inkasu?
      >Mne
      >> >
      >> >> vzdycky pripadalo, ze je to totez, ale treba se pletu.
      >> >
      >> >>
      >> >
      >> >> Martin
      >> >
      >> >>
      >> >
      >> >> Dne 18.3.2013 12:36, Sabina Králová napsal(a):
      >> >
      >> >> >
      >> >
      >> >> > Anglictina toho textu je dost hrozna. Jedna se o vycet
      >povolenych
      >> >> > platebnich metod:
      >> >> >
      >> >> > 2. Methods of payment
      >> >> > Following an analysis of existing freedom of action in the
      >light of
      >> >> > the points listed the following configuration options primarily
      >can be
      >> >> > considered (listed by length of time interval until receipt of
      >payment
      >> >> > or maturity date):
      >> >> > · payment in advance or down-payment (prior to delivery)
      >> >> > · credit card payment (at time of order or on delivery)
      >> >> > · (cash) payment upon delivery
      >> >> > · payment (on delivery)
      >> >> > · debit note (on delivery) â€" in many legal systems a
      >distinction must
      >> >> > be drawn here between a direct debit authority and a direct
      >withdrawal
      >> >> > order: the advantage of a direct withdrawal order from the
      >creditor’s
      >> >> > standpoint is that the debtor has no right of cancellation,
      >whereas
      >> >> > payments made by means of an direct debit authority may be
      >cancelled
      >> >> > by the debtor, hence payments by direct debit are not
      >completely
      >> >> > guaranteed in law
      >> >> > · payment by draft (on delivery) â€" in this regard it should
      >be ensured
      >> >> > that only banker’s drafts are accepted which result in an
      >immediate
      >> >> > credit entry to the vendor’s bank account (only a
      >bank-certified
      >> >> > cheque ensures actually collection of the claim as in addition
      >to the
      >> >> > issuer the latter’s bank is also liable for payment of the
      >amount of
      >> >> > the cheque)
      >> >> > · payment on straightforward account (after delivery)
      >> >> > · payment on account with a specified payment date (after
      >delivery).
      >> >> > Diky
      >> >> > Sabina
      >> >> > -------- Původní zpráva -------
      >> >> > Od: Matej Klimes < mklimes@...
      >> >> <mailto:mklimes%40volny.cz><mailto:mklimes%40volny.cz>
      >> >> <mailto:mklimes%40volny.cz>>
      >> >> > Komu: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
      >> >>
      ><mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
      >
      >> >> <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>,
      >> >> > Předmět: Re[2]: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect
      >debit
      >> >> > Datum: 18.03.2013 12:27
      >> >> > ---------------------------------------
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
      >> >> > " http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > Rika se tomu inkaso Romano, bud si jej clovek zada rucne,
      >nebo bance
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > 'povoli' inkaso na urcity ucet, telefonnimu operatortovi
      >atd..
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > Sabino me ty dva terminy pripadaji dost podobne, rozdil je
      >mezi
      >> >> debit a
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > withdrawal a mezi authority (vice jako povoleni, tedy to
      >inkaso) a
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > order (konkretni prikaz)... ale cele je to nejake divne, asi
      >to
      >> >> nebude
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > autenticka anglictina, ze?
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > Jestli jde skutecne o platbu za zbozi v el obchode, tak nam
      >musis
      >> >> rick
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > vice podrobnosti/kontextu, pokud mas (jak to probiha, cim to
      >zarucuje
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > platbu) a pak mozna neco vymyslime.. Nenapada me moc, jak by
      >platba v
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > el. obchode mela probihat jako inkaso, leda ze by slo o
      >pravidelny
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > nakup..
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > M
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > ------ Original Message ------
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > From: "Romana" < czechlist@...
      >> >>
      ><mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
      >> >> > <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>>
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > To: czechlist@...
      >> >>
      ><mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
      >> >> <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > Sent: 18.3.2013 12:04:43
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > Subject: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect
      >debit
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > >> Nevim, jak se tomu rika cesky, ale neni to nic soudniho. Je
      >to
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > >>proste, ze normalni clovek da sve bance povoleni, ze kdyz
      >urcita
      >> >> treti
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > >>strana si chce stahnout penize z jejiho uctu, tak to banka ma
      >> >> umoznit.
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > >>To se tady i v Evrope bezne dela napriklad pro mesicni platby
      >pro
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > >>telefon, energii, vodu atd. Jak se tomu rika cesky?
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > >>
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > >>Romana z Australie
      >> >> > >>
      >> >> > >>-----Original Message-----
      >> >> > >>From: czechlist-bounces@...
      >> >>
      ><mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org>
      >
      >> >>
      >> >> > <mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org> [mailto:
      >> >> > czechlist-bounces@...
      >> >>
      ><mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org>
      >
      >> >>
      >> >> > <mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org>] On Behalf Of
      >> >> > sabina.kralova@...
      >> >>
      ><mailto:sabina.kralova%40tiscali.cz><mailto:sabina.kralova%40tiscali.cz>
      >
      >> >> <mailto:sabina.kralova%40tiscali.cz>
      >> >> > >>Sent: Monday, 18 March 2013 9:09 PM
      >> >> > >>To: czechlist@...
      >> >>
      ><mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
      >> >> <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
      >> >> > >>Subject: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
      >> >> > >>
      >> >> > >>Dobry den,
      >> >> > >>narazila jsem v prekladu na terminy "direct debit authority"
      >a
      >> >> "direct
      >> >> > >>withdrawal order" Predpokladam, ze direct debit authority je
      >souhlas
      >> >> > >>s primym inkasem, bohuzel se mi absolutne nedari zjistit
      >cesky termin
      >> >> > >>pro "direct withdrawal order"? Jedine, co vim je, ze dluznik
      >nema
      >> >> > >>pravo platbu zrusit. Predem dekuji za radu Sabina
      >> >> > >>
      >> >> > >>_______________________________________________
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      >> >> <mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
      >> >> > >> http://www.czechlist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/czechlist
      >> >> > >>
      >> >> > >>_______________________________________________
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