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  • Sabina Králová
    Diky Pavle. Sabina ... Od: Pavel Komu: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com Předmět: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
    Message 1 of 17 , Mar 19, 2013
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      Diky Pavle.
      Sabina

      -------- Původní zpráva -------
      Od: Pavel <PavelJanousek@...>
      Komu: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
      Předmět: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
      Datum: 19.03.2013 20:50
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      >
      > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
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      >  
      >
      > Ahoj,
      >
      > podle mì povolení k inkasu zadávám já jako plátce tøeba úètu za telefon, pøíkaz k inkasu pak posílá mùj telefonní operátor na základì mého povolení k inkasu. Zrušit pøíkaz nemùžu, já ho nezadávám, ale povolení k inkasu zrušit mùžu. To je ale asi jasné.
      >
      > V kontextu toho seznamu platebních zpùsobù to zní, jako kdyby to byly nìjaké naøízené inkasní platby (tøeba v pøípadì exekuce z úètu) - ty pak zrušit nemùžu.
      >
      > Pavel
      >
      > --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, "Sabina Králová" <sabina.kralova@...> wrote:
      >
      >>
      >
      >> Ahoj Martine,
      >
      >>
      >
      >> diky. Mozna by to mohlo byt ono. Pokud mi zakaznik neposle vysvetleni, tak to pouziju s poznamkou pod carou.
      >
      >> Sabina
      >
      >> -------- Původní zpráva -------
      >
      >> Od: Martin Janda <mjanda@...>
      >
      >> Komu: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
      >
      >> Předmět: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
      >
      >> Datum: 18.03.2013 16:25
      >
      >> ---------------------------------------
      >
      >> >
      >
      >> > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" " http://wwww3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
      >
      >> >
      >
      >> >  
      >
      >> >
      >
      >> > Jsem, podivej:
      >
      >> >
      >> > https://www.google.com/search?q=%22p%C5%99%C3%ADkaz+k+inkasu%22&ie=UTF-8
      >> >
      >> > Martin
      >> >
      >> > Dne 18.3.2013 12:50, Pilucha, Jiri napsal(a):
      >> >
      >> >>
      >> >
      >> >> martine jses si jist, ze nezamenujes prikaz k uhrade a souhlas s inkasem?
      >> >
      >> >>
      >> >
      >> >>
      >> >
      >> >> From: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
      >> >
      >> >> [mailto: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
      >> >
      >> >> <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Martin Janda
      >> >
      >> >> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:39 PM
      >> >
      >> >> To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
      >> >
      >> >> Subject: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
      >> >
      >> >>
      >> >
      >> >>
      >> >
      >> >>
      >> >
      >> >> Mozna existuje rozdil mezi svolenim k inkasu a prikazem k inkasu? Mne
      >> >
      >> >> vzdycky pripadalo, ze je to totez, ale treba se pletu.
      >> >
      >> >>
      >> >
      >> >> Martin
      >> >
      >> >>
      >> >
      >> >> Dne 18.3.2013 12:36, Sabina Králová napsal(a):
      >> >
      >> >> >
      >> >
      >> >> > Anglictina toho textu je dost hrozna. Jedna se o vycet povolenych
      >> >> > platebnich metod:
      >> >> >
      >> >> > 2. Methods of payment
      >> >> > Following an analysis of existing freedom of action in the light of
      >> >> > the points listed the following configuration options primarily can be
      >> >> > considered (listed by length of time interval until receipt of payment
      >> >> > or maturity date):
      >> >> > · payment in advance or down-payment (prior to delivery)
      >> >> > · credit card payment (at time of order or on delivery)
      >> >> > · (cash) payment upon delivery
      >> >> > · payment (on delivery)
      >> >> > · debit note (on delivery) â€" in many legal systems a distinction must
      >> >> > be drawn here between a direct debit authority and a direct withdrawal
      >> >> > order: the advantage of a direct withdrawal order from the creditor’s
      >> >> > standpoint is that the debtor has no right of cancellation, whereas
      >> >> > payments made by means of an direct debit authority may be cancelled
      >> >> > by the debtor, hence payments by direct debit are not completely
      >> >> > guaranteed in law
      >> >> > · payment by draft (on delivery) â€" in this regard it should be ensured
      >> >> > that only banker’s drafts are accepted which result in an immediate
      >> >> > credit entry to the vendor’s bank account (only a bank-certified
      >> >> > cheque ensures actually collection of the claim as in addition to the
      >> >> > issuer the latter’s bank is also liable for payment of the amount of
      >> >> > the cheque)
      >> >> > · payment on straightforward account (after delivery)
      >> >> > · payment on account with a specified payment date (after delivery).
      >> >> > Diky
      >> >> > Sabina
      >> >> > -------- Původní zpráva -------
      >> >> > Od: Matej Klimes < mklimes@...
      >> >> <mailto:mklimes%40volny.cz><mailto:mklimes%40volny.cz>
      >> >> <mailto:mklimes%40volny.cz>>
      >> >> > Komu: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
      >> >> <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
      >> >> <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>,
      >> >> > Předmět: Re[2]: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
      >> >> > Datum: 18.03.2013 12:27
      >> >> > ---------------------------------------
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 401//EN"
      >> >> > " http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > Rika se tomu inkaso Romano, bud si jej clovek zada rucne, nebo bance
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > 'povoli' inkaso na urcity ucet, telefonnimu operatortovi atd..
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > Sabino me ty dva terminy pripadaji dost podobne, rozdil je mezi
      >> >> debit a
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > withdrawal a mezi authority (vice jako povoleni, tedy to inkaso) a
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > order (konkretni prikaz)... ale cele je to nejake divne, asi to
      >> >> nebude
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > autenticka anglictina, ze?
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > Jestli jde skutecne o platbu za zbozi v el obchode, tak nam musis
      >> >> rick
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > vice podrobnosti/kontextu, pokud mas (jak to probiha, cim to zarucuje
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > platbu) a pak mozna neco vymyslime.. Nenapada me moc, jak by platba v
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > el. obchode mela probihat jako inkaso, leda ze by slo o pravidelny
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > nakup..
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > M
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > ------ Original Message ------
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > From: "Romana" < czechlist@...
      >> >> <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
      >> >> > <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>>
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > To: czechlist@...
      >> >> <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
      >> >> <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > Sent: 18.3.2013 12:04:43
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > Subject: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > >> Nevim, jak se tomu rika cesky, ale neni to nic soudniho. Je to
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > >>proste, ze normalni clovek da sve bance povoleni, ze kdyz urcita
      >> >> treti
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > >>strana si chce stahnout penize z jejiho uctu, tak to banka ma
      >> >> umoznit.
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > >>To se tady i v Evrope bezne dela napriklad pro mesicni platby pro
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > >>telefon, energii, vodu atd. Jak se tomu rika cesky?
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > >>
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > >>Romana z Australie
      >> >> > >>
      >> >> > >>-----Original Message-----
      >> >> > >>From: czechlist-bounces@...
      >> >> <mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org>
      >> >>
      >> >> > <mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org> [mailto:
      >> >> > czechlist-bounces@...
      >> >> <mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org>
      >> >>
      >> >> > <mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org>] On Behalf Of
      >> >> > sabina.kralova@...
      >> >> <mailto:sabinakralova%40tiscali.cz><mailto:sabina.kralova%40tiscali.cz>
      >> >> <mailto:sabina.kralova%40tiscali.cz>
      >> >> > >>Sent: Monday, 18 March 2013 9:09 PM
      >> >> > >>To: czechlist@...
      >> >> <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
      >> >> <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
      >> >> > >>Subject: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
      >> >> > >>
      >> >> > >>Dobry den,
      >> >> > >>narazila jsem v prekladu na terminy "direct debit authority" a
      >> >> "direct
      >> >> > >>withdrawal order" Predpokladam, ze direct debit authority je souhlas
      >> >> > >>s primym inkasem, bohuzel se mi absolutne nedari zjistit cesky termin
      >> >> > >>pro "direct withdrawal order"? Jedine, co vim je, ze dluznik nema
      >> >> > >>pravo platbu zrusit. Predem dekuji za radu Sabina
      >> >> > >>
      >> >> > >>_______________________________________________
      >> >> > >>Czechlist mailing list
      >> >> > >> Czechlist@...
      >> >> <mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
      >> >> <mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
      >> >> > >> http://www.czechlist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/czechlist
      >> >> > >>
      >> >> > >>_______________________________________________
      >> >> > >>Czechlist mailing list
      >> >> > >> Czechlist@...
      >> >> <mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
      >> >> <mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
      >> >> > >> http://www.czechlist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/czechlist
      >> >> > >>
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > >
      >> >> >
      >> >> >
      >> >>
      >> >>
      >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      >> >>
      >> >>
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >>
      >
      >
      >
    • Matej Klimes
      ... nìjaké naøízené inkasní platby (tøeba v pøípadì exekuce z úètu) - ty pak zrušit nemùžu. A Tobe uz nekdy udelal eShop exekuci na uctu? Ten
      Message 2 of 17 , Mar 19, 2013
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        > V kontextu toho seznamu platebních zpùsobù to zní, jako kdyby to byly
        nìjaké naøízené inkasní platby (tøeba v pøípadì exekuce z úètu) - ty
        pak zrušit nemùžu.

        A Tobe uz nekdy udelal eShop exekuci na uctu? Ten text byl nejaky
        blabol z EU o podminkach pro elektronicke obchody, rikala Sabina...
        nekdo v Bruselu se asi ukec.. nedava to moc smysl..

        M
        ------ Original Message ------
        From: "Pavel" <PavelJanousek@...>
        To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: 19.3.2013 20:49:57
        Subject: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
        > Ahoj,
        >
        >podle mì povolení k inkasu zadávám já jako plátce tøeba úètu za
        >telefon, pøíkaz k inkasu pak posílá mùj telefonní operátor na základì
        >mého povolení k inkasu. Zrušit pøíkaz nemùžu, já ho nezadávám, ale
        >povolení k inkasu zrušit mùžu. To je ale asi jasné.
        >
        >V kontextu toho seznamu platebních zpùsobù to zní, jako kdyby to byly
        >nìjaké naøízené inkasní platby (tøeba v pøípadì exekuce z úètu) - ty
        >pak zrušit nemùžu.
        >
        >Pavel
        >
        >--- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, "Sabina Králová" <sabina.kralova@...>
        >wrote:
        >>
        >> Ahoj Martine,
        >>
        >> diky. Mozna by to mohlo byt ono. Pokud mi zakaznik neposle
        >vysvetleni, tak to pouziju s poznamkou pod carou.
        >> Sabina
        >> -------- Původní zpráva -------
        >> Od: Martin Janda <mjanda@...>
        >> Komu: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
        >> Předmět: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
        >> Datum: 18.03.2013 16:25
        >> ---------------------------------------
        >> >
        >> > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://wwww3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
        >> >
        >> > Â
        >> >
        >> > Jsem, podivej:
        >> >
        >> > https://www.google.com/search?q=%22p%C5%99%C3%ADkaz+k+inkasu%22&ie=UTF-8
        >> >
        >> > Martin
        >> >
        >> > Dne 18.3.2013 12:50, Pilucha, Jiri napsal(a):
        >> >
        >> >>
        >> >
        >> >> martine jses si jist, ze nezamenujes prikaz k uhrade a souhlas s
        >inkasem?
        >> >
        >> >>
        >> >
        >> >>
        >> >
        >> >> From: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
        >> >
        >> >> [mailto: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
        >> >
        >> >> <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Martin Janda
        >> >
        >> >> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:39 PM
        >> >
        >> >> To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
        >> >
        >> >> Subject: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
        >> >
        >> >>
        >> >
        >> >>
        >> >
        >> >>
        >> >
        >> >> Mozna existuje rozdil mezi svolenim k inkasu a prikazem k inkasu?
        >Mne
        >> >
        >> >> vzdycky pripadalo, ze je to totez, ale treba se pletu.
        >> >
        >> >>
        >> >
        >> >> Martin
        >> >
        >> >>
        >> >
        >> >> Dne 18.3.2013 12:36, Sabina Králová napsal(a):
        >> >
        >> >> >
        >> >
        >> >> > Anglictina toho textu je dost hrozna. Jedna se o vycet
        >povolenych
        >> >> > platebnich metod:
        >> >> >
        >> >> > 2. Methods of payment
        >> >> > Following an analysis of existing freedom of action in the
        >light of
        >> >> > the points listed the following configuration options primarily
        >can be
        >> >> > considered (listed by length of time interval until receipt of
        >payment
        >> >> > or maturity date):
        >> >> > · payment in advance or down-payment (prior to delivery)
        >> >> > · credit card payment (at time of order or on delivery)
        >> >> > · (cash) payment upon delivery
        >> >> > · payment (on delivery)
        >> >> > · debit note (on delivery) â€" in many legal systems a
        >distinction must
        >> >> > be drawn here between a direct debit authority and a direct
        >withdrawal
        >> >> > order: the advantage of a direct withdrawal order from the
        >creditor’s
        >> >> > standpoint is that the debtor has no right of cancellation,
        >whereas
        >> >> > payments made by means of an direct debit authority may be
        >cancelled
        >> >> > by the debtor, hence payments by direct debit are not
        >completely
        >> >> > guaranteed in law
        >> >> > · payment by draft (on delivery) â€" in this regard it should
        >be ensured
        >> >> > that only banker’s drafts are accepted which result in an
        >immediate
        >> >> > credit entry to the vendor’s bank account (only a
        >bank-certified
        >> >> > cheque ensures actually collection of the claim as in addition
        >to the
        >> >> > issuer the latter’s bank is also liable for payment of the
        >amount of
        >> >> > the cheque)
        >> >> > · payment on straightforward account (after delivery)
        >> >> > · payment on account with a specified payment date (after
        >delivery).
        >> >> > Diky
        >> >> > Sabina
        >> >> > -------- Původní zpráva -------
        >> >> > Od: Matej Klimes < mklimes@...
        >> >> <mailto:mklimes%40volny.cz><mailto:mklimes%40volny.cz>
        >> >> <mailto:mklimes%40volny.cz>>
        >> >> > Komu: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
        >> >>
        ><mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
        >
        >> >> <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>,
        >> >> > Předmět: Re[2]: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect
        >debit
        >> >> > Datum: 18.03.2013 12:27
        >> >> > ---------------------------------------
        >> >> > >
        >> >> > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
        >> >> > " http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
        >> >> > >
        >> >> > >
        >> >> > >
        >> >> > > Rika se tomu inkaso Romano, bud si jej clovek zada rucne,
        >nebo bance
        >> >> > >
        >> >> > > 'povoli' inkaso na urcity ucet, telefonnimu operatortovi
        >atd..
        >> >> > >
        >> >> > > Sabino me ty dva terminy pripadaji dost podobne, rozdil je
        >mezi
        >> >> debit a
        >> >> > >
        >> >> > > withdrawal a mezi authority (vice jako povoleni, tedy to
        >inkaso) a
        >> >> > >
        >> >> > > order (konkretni prikaz)... ale cele je to nejake divne, asi
        >to
        >> >> nebude
        >> >> > >
        >> >> > > autenticka anglictina, ze?
        >> >> > >
        >> >> > > Jestli jde skutecne o platbu za zbozi v el obchode, tak nam
        >musis
        >> >> rick
        >> >> > >
        >> >> > > vice podrobnosti/kontextu, pokud mas (jak to probiha, cim to
        >zarucuje
        >> >> > >
        >> >> > > platbu) a pak mozna neco vymyslime.. Nenapada me moc, jak by
        >platba v
        >> >> > >
        >> >> > > el. obchode mela probihat jako inkaso, leda ze by slo o
        >pravidelny
        >> >> > >
        >> >> > > nakup..
        >> >> > >
        >> >> > > M
        >> >> > >
        >> >> > > ------ Original Message ------
        >> >> > >
        >> >> > > From: "Romana" < czechlist@...
        >> >>
        ><mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
        >> >> > <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>>
        >> >> > >
        >> >> > > To: czechlist@...
        >> >>
        ><mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
        >> >> <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
        >> >> > >
        >> >> > > Sent: 18.3.2013 12:04:43
        >> >> > >
        >> >> > > Subject: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect
        >debit
        >> >> > >
        >> >> > >> Nevim, jak se tomu rika cesky, ale neni to nic soudniho. Je
        >to
        >> >> > >
        >> >> > >>proste, ze normalni clovek da sve bance povoleni, ze kdyz
        >urcita
        >> >> treti
        >> >> > >
        >> >> > >>strana si chce stahnout penize z jejiho uctu, tak to banka ma
        >> >> umoznit.
        >> >> > >
        >> >> > >>To se tady i v Evrope bezne dela napriklad pro mesicni platby
        >pro
        >> >> > >
        >> >> > >>telefon, energii, vodu atd. Jak se tomu rika cesky?
        >> >> > >
        >> >> > >>
        >> >> > >
        >> >> > >>Romana z Australie
        >> >> > >>
        >> >> > >>-----Original Message-----
        >> >> > >>From: czechlist-bounces@...
        >> >>
        ><mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org>
        >
        >> >>
        >> >> > <mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org> [mailto:
        >> >> > czechlist-bounces@...
        >> >>
        ><mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org>
        >
        >> >>
        >> >> > <mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org>] On Behalf Of
        >> >> > sabina.kralova@...
        >> >>
        ><mailto:sabina.kralova%40tiscali.cz><mailto:sabina.kralova%40tiscali.cz>
        >
        >> >> <mailto:sabina.kralova%40tiscali.cz>
        >> >> > >>Sent: Monday, 18 March 2013 9:09 PM
        >> >> > >>To: czechlist@...
        >> >>
        ><mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
        >> >> <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
        >> >> > >>Subject: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
        >> >> > >>
        >> >> > >>Dobry den,
        >> >> > >>narazila jsem v prekladu na terminy "direct debit authority"
        >a
        >> >> "direct
        >> >> > >>withdrawal order" Predpokladam, ze direct debit authority je
        >souhlas
        >> >> > >>s primym inkasem, bohuzel se mi absolutne nedari zjistit
        >cesky termin
        >> >> > >>pro "direct withdrawal order"? Jedine, co vim je, ze dluznik
        >nema
        >> >> > >>pravo platbu zrusit. Predem dekuji za radu Sabina
        >> >> > >>
        >> >> > >>_______________________________________________
        >> >> > >>Czechlist mailing list
        >> >> > >> Czechlist@...
        >> >>
        ><mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
        >> >> <mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
        >> >> > >> http://www.czechlist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/czechlist
        >> >> > >>
        >> >> > >>_______________________________________________
        >> >> > >>Czechlist mailing list
        >> >> > >> Czechlist@...
        >> >>
        ><mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
        >> >> <mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
        >> >> > >> http://www.czechlist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/czechlist
        >> >> > >>
        >> >> > >
        >> >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
        >> >> > >
        >> >> > >
        >> >> > >
        >> >> >
        >> >> >
        >> >>
        >> >>
        >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
        >> >>
        >> >>
        >> >
        >> >
        >> >
        >>
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