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  • Irena.Steinerova@tiscali.cz
    inkaso? irena ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
    Message 1 of 17 , Mar 18, 2013
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      inkaso?
      irena

      Dne 18.3.2013 12:04, Romana napsal(a):
      >
      > Nevim, jak se tomu rika cesky, ale neni to nic soudniho. Je to proste,
      > ze normalni clovek da sve bance povoleni, ze kdyz urcita treti strana
      > si chce stahnout penize z jejiho uctu, tak to banka ma umoznit. To se
      > tady i v Evrope bezne dela napriklad pro mesicni platby pro telefon,
      > energii, vodu atd. Jak se tomu rika cesky?
      >
      > Romana z Australie
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: czechlist-bounces@...
      > <mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org>
      > [mailto:czechlist-bounces@...
      > <mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org>] On Behalf Of
      > sabina.kralova@... <mailto:sabina.kralova%40tiscali.cz>
      > Sent: Monday, 18 March 2013 9:09 PM
      > To: czechlist@... <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
      > Subject: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
      >
      > Dobry den,
      > narazila jsem v prekladu na terminy "direct debit authority" a "direct
      > withdrawal order". Predpokladam, ze direct debit authority je souhlas
      > s primym inkasem, bohuzel se mi absolutne nedari zjistit cesky termin
      > pro "direct withdrawal order"? Jedine, co vim je, ze dluznik nema
      > pravo platbu zrusit. Predem dekuji za radu Sabina
      >
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    • Matej Klimes
      Rika se tomu inkaso Romano, bud si jej clovek zada rucne, nebo bance povoli inkaso na urcity ucet, telefonnimu operatortovi atd.. Sabino me ty dva terminy
      Message 2 of 17 , Mar 18, 2013
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        Rika se tomu inkaso Romano, bud si jej clovek zada rucne, nebo bance
        'povoli' inkaso na urcity ucet, telefonnimu operatortovi atd..

        Sabino me ty dva terminy pripadaji dost podobne, rozdil je mezi debit a
        withdrawal a mezi authority (vice jako povoleni, tedy to inkaso) a
        order (konkretni prikaz)... ale cele je to nejake divne, asi to nebude
        autenticka anglictina, ze?

        Jestli jde skutecne o platbu za zbozi v el. obchode, tak nam musis rick
        vice podrobnosti/kontextu, pokud mas (jak to probiha, cim to zarucuje
        platbu) a pak mozna neco vymyslime.. Nenapada me moc, jak by platba v
        el. obchode mela probihat jako inkaso, leda ze by slo o pravidelny
        nakup..

        M
        ------ Original Message ------
        From: "Romana" <czechlist@...>
        To: czechlist@...
        Sent: 18.3.2013 12:04:43
        Subject: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
        > Nevim, jak se tomu rika cesky, ale neni to nic soudniho. Je to
        >proste, ze normalni clovek da sve bance povoleni, ze kdyz urcita treti
        >strana si chce stahnout penize z jejiho uctu, tak to banka ma umoznit.
        >To se tady i v Evrope bezne dela napriklad pro mesicni platby pro
        >telefon, energii, vodu atd. Jak se tomu rika cesky?
        >
        >Romana z Australie
        >
        >-----Original Message-----
        >From: czechlist-bounces@... [mailto:czechlist-bounces@...] On Behalf Of sabina.kralova@...
        >Sent: Monday, 18 March 2013 9:09 PM
        >To: czechlist@...
        >Subject: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
        >
        >Dobry den,
        >narazila jsem v prekladu na terminy "direct debit authority" a "direct
        >withdrawal order". Predpokladam, ze direct debit authority je souhlas
        >s primym inkasem, bohuzel se mi absolutne nedari zjistit cesky termin
        >pro "direct withdrawal order"? Jedine, co vim je, ze dluznik nema
        >pravo platbu zrusit. Predem dekuji za radu Sabina
        >
        >_______________________________________________
        >Czechlist mailing list
        >Czechlist@...
        >http://www.czechlist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/czechlist
        >
        >_______________________________________________
        >Czechlist mailing list
        >Czechlist@...
        >http://www.czechlist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/czechlist
        >


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      • Sabina Králová
        Anglictina toho textu je dost hrozna. Jedna se o vycet povolenych platebnich metod: 2. Methods of payment Following an analysis of existing freedom of action
        Message 3 of 17 , Mar 18, 2013
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          Anglictina toho textu je dost hrozna. Jedna se o vycet povolenych platebnich metod:

          2. Methods of payment
          Following an analysis of existing freedom of action in the light of the points listed the following configuration options primarily can be considered (listed by length of time interval until receipt of payment or maturity date):
          · payment in advance or down-payment (prior to delivery)
          · credit card payment (at time of order or on delivery)
          · (cash) payment upon delivery
          · payment (on delivery)
          · debit note (on delivery) – in many legal systems a distinction must be drawn here between a direct debit authority and a direct withdrawal order: the advantage of a direct withdrawal order from the creditor’s standpoint is that the debtor has no right of cancellation, whereas payments made by means of an direct debit authority may be cancelled by the debtor, hence payments by direct debit are not completely guaranteed in law
          · payment by draft (on delivery) – in this regard it should be ensured that only banker’s drafts are accepted which result in an immediate credit entry to the vendor’s bank account (only a bank-certified cheque ensures actually collection of the claim as in addition to the issuer the latter’s bank is also liable for payment of the amount of the cheque)
          · payment on straightforward account (after delivery)
          · payment on account with a specified payment date (after delivery).
          Diky
          Sabina
          -------- Původní zpráva -------
          Od: Matej Klimes <mklimes@...>
          Komu: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com,
          Předmět: Re[2]: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
          Datum: 18.03.2013 12:27
          ---------------------------------------
          >
          > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
          >
          >  
          >
          > Rika se tomu inkaso Romano, bud si jej clovek zada rucne, nebo bance
          >
          > 'povoli' inkaso na urcity ucet, telefonnimu operatortovi atd..
          >
          > Sabino me ty dva terminy pripadaji dost podobne, rozdil je mezi debit a
          >
          > withdrawal a mezi authority (vice jako povoleni, tedy to inkaso) a
          >
          > order (konkretni prikaz)... ale cele je to nejake divne, asi to nebude
          >
          > autenticka anglictina, ze?
          >
          > Jestli jde skutecne o platbu za zbozi v el. obchode, tak nam musis rick
          >
          > vice podrobnosti/kontextu, pokud mas (jak to probiha, cim to zarucuje
          >
          > platbu) a pak mozna neco vymyslime.. Nenapada me moc, jak by platba v
          >
          > el. obchode mela probihat jako inkaso, leda ze by slo o pravidelny
          >
          > nakup..
          >
          > M
          >
          > ------ Original Message ------
          >
          > From: "Romana" < czechlist@...>
          >
          > To: czechlist@...
          >
          > Sent: 18.3.2013 12:04:43
          >
          > Subject: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
          >
          >> Nevim, jak se tomu rika cesky, ale neni to nic soudniho. Je to
          >
          >>proste, ze normalni clovek da sve bance povoleni, ze kdyz urcita treti
          >
          >>strana si chce stahnout penize z jejiho uctu, tak to banka ma umoznit.
          >
          >>To se tady i v Evrope bezne dela napriklad pro mesicni platby pro
          >
          >>telefon, energii, vodu atd. Jak se tomu rika cesky?
          >
          >>
          >
          >>Romana z Australie
          >>
          >>-----Original Message-----
          >>From: czechlist-bounces@... [mailto: czechlist-bounces@...] On Behalf Of sabina.kralova@...
          >>Sent: Monday, 18 March 2013 9:09 PM
          >>To: czechlist@...
          >>Subject: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
          >>
          >>Dobry den,
          >>narazila jsem v prekladu na terminy "direct debit authority" a "direct
          >>withdrawal order". Predpokladam, ze direct debit authority je souhlas
          >>s primym inkasem, bohuzel se mi absolutne nedari zjistit cesky termin
          >>pro "direct withdrawal order"? Jedine, co vim je, ze dluznik nema
          >>pravo platbu zrusit. Predem dekuji za radu Sabina
          >>
          >>_______________________________________________
          >>Czechlist mailing list
          >> Czechlist@...
          >> http://www.czechlist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/czechlist
          >>
          >>_______________________________________________
          >>Czechlist mailing list
          >> Czechlist@...
          >> http://www.czechlist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/czechlist
          >>
          >
          > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
          >
          >
          >
        • Martin Janda
          Mozna existuje rozdil mezi svolenim k inkasu a prikazem k inkasu? Mne vzdycky pripadalo, ze je to totez, ale treba se pletu. Martin
          Message 4 of 17 , Mar 18, 2013
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            Mozna existuje rozdil mezi svolenim k inkasu a prikazem k inkasu? Mne
            vzdycky pripadalo, ze je to totez, ale treba se pletu.

            Martin

            Dne 18.3.2013 12:36, Sabina Králová napsal(a):
            >
            > Anglictina toho textu je dost hrozna. Jedna se o vycet povolenych
            > platebnich metod:
            >
            > 2. Methods of payment
            > Following an analysis of existing freedom of action in the light of
            > the points listed the following configuration options primarily can be
            > considered (listed by length of time interval until receipt of payment
            > or maturity date):
            > · payment in advance or down-payment (prior to delivery)
            > · credit card payment (at time of order or on delivery)
            > · (cash) payment upon delivery
            > · payment (on delivery)
            > · debit note (on delivery) – in many legal systems a distinction must
            > be drawn here between a direct debit authority and a direct withdrawal
            > order: the advantage of a direct withdrawal order from the creditor’s
            > standpoint is that the debtor has no right of cancellation, whereas
            > payments made by means of an direct debit authority may be cancelled
            > by the debtor, hence payments by direct debit are not completely
            > guaranteed in law
            > · payment by draft (on delivery) – in this regard it should be ensured
            > that only banker’s drafts are accepted which result in an immediate
            > credit entry to the vendor’s bank account (only a bank-certified
            > cheque ensures actually collection of the claim as in addition to the
            > issuer the latter’s bank is also liable for payment of the amount of
            > the cheque)
            > · payment on straightforward account (after delivery)
            > · payment on account with a specified payment date (after delivery).
            > Diky
            > Sabina
            > -------- Původní zpráva -------
            > Od: Matej Klimes <mklimes@... <mailto:mklimes%40volny.cz>>
            > Komu: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>,
            > Předmět: Re[2]: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
            > Datum: 18.03.2013 12:27
            > ---------------------------------------
            > >
            > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
            > "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > > Rika se tomu inkaso Romano, bud si jej clovek zada rucne, nebo bance
            > >
            > > 'povoli' inkaso na urcity ucet, telefonnimu operatortovi atd..
            > >
            > > Sabino me ty dva terminy pripadaji dost podobne, rozdil je mezi debit a
            > >
            > > withdrawal a mezi authority (vice jako povoleni, tedy to inkaso) a
            > >
            > > order (konkretni prikaz)... ale cele je to nejake divne, asi to nebude
            > >
            > > autenticka anglictina, ze?
            > >
            > > Jestli jde skutecne o platbu za zbozi v el. obchode, tak nam musis rick
            > >
            > > vice podrobnosti/kontextu, pokud mas (jak to probiha, cim to zarucuje
            > >
            > > platbu) a pak mozna neco vymyslime.. Nenapada me moc, jak by platba v
            > >
            > > el. obchode mela probihat jako inkaso, leda ze by slo o pravidelny
            > >
            > > nakup..
            > >
            > > M
            > >
            > > ------ Original Message ------
            > >
            > > From: "Romana" < czechlist@...
            > <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>>
            > >
            > > To: czechlist@... <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
            > >
            > > Sent: 18.3.2013 12:04:43
            > >
            > > Subject: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
            > >
            > >> Nevim, jak se tomu rika cesky, ale neni to nic soudniho. Je to
            > >
            > >>proste, ze normalni clovek da sve bance povoleni, ze kdyz urcita treti
            > >
            > >>strana si chce stahnout penize z jejiho uctu, tak to banka ma umoznit.
            > >
            > >>To se tady i v Evrope bezne dela napriklad pro mesicni platby pro
            > >
            > >>telefon, energii, vodu atd. Jak se tomu rika cesky?
            > >
            > >>
            > >
            > >>Romana z Australie
            > >>
            > >>-----Original Message-----
            > >>From: czechlist-bounces@...
            > <mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org> [mailto:
            > czechlist-bounces@...
            > <mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org>] On Behalf Of
            > sabina.kralova@... <mailto:sabina.kralova%40tiscali.cz>
            > >>Sent: Monday, 18 March 2013 9:09 PM
            > >>To: czechlist@... <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
            > >>Subject: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
            > >>
            > >>Dobry den,
            > >>narazila jsem v prekladu na terminy "direct debit authority" a "direct
            > >>withdrawal order". Predpokladam, ze direct debit authority je souhlas
            > >>s primym inkasem, bohuzel se mi absolutne nedari zjistit cesky termin
            > >>pro "direct withdrawal order"? Jedine, co vim je, ze dluznik nema
            > >>pravo platbu zrusit. Predem dekuji za radu Sabina
            > >>
            > >>_______________________________________________
            > >>Czechlist mailing list
            > >> Czechlist@... <mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
            > >> http://www.czechlist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/czechlist
            > >>
            > >>_______________________________________________
            > >>Czechlist mailing list
            > >> Czechlist@... <mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
            > >> http://www.czechlist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/czechlist
            > >>
            > >
            > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
            > >
            > >
            > >
            >
            >
          • Pilucha, Jiri
            martine jses si jist, ze nezamenujes prikaz k uhrade a souhlas s inkasem? From: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Czechlist@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
            Message 5 of 17 , Mar 18, 2013
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              martine jses si jist, ze nezamenujes prikaz k uhrade a souhlas s inkasem?


              From: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Czechlist@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Janda
              Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:39 PM
              To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit



              Mozna existuje rozdil mezi svolenim k inkasu a prikazem k inkasu? Mne
              vzdycky pripadalo, ze je to totez, ale treba se pletu.

              Martin

              Dne 18.3.2013 12:36, Sabina Králová napsal(a):
              >
              > Anglictina toho textu je dost hrozna. Jedna se o vycet povolenych
              > platebnich metod:
              >
              > 2. Methods of payment
              > Following an analysis of existing freedom of action in the light of
              > the points listed the following configuration options primarily can be
              > considered (listed by length of time interval until receipt of payment
              > or maturity date):
              > · payment in advance or down-payment (prior to delivery)
              > · credit card payment (at time of order or on delivery)
              > · (cash) payment upon delivery
              > · payment (on delivery)
              > · debit note (on delivery) – in many legal systems a distinction must
              > be drawn here between a direct debit authority and a direct withdrawal
              > order: the advantage of a direct withdrawal order from the creditor’s
              > standpoint is that the debtor has no right of cancellation, whereas
              > payments made by means of an direct debit authority may be cancelled
              > by the debtor, hence payments by direct debit are not completely
              > guaranteed in law
              > · payment by draft (on delivery) – in this regard it should be ensured
              > that only banker’s drafts are accepted which result in an immediate
              > credit entry to the vendor’s bank account (only a bank-certified
              > cheque ensures actually collection of the claim as in addition to the
              > issuer the latter’s bank is also liable for payment of the amount of
              > the cheque)
              > · payment on straightforward account (after delivery)
              > · payment on account with a specified payment date (after delivery).
              > Diky
              > Sabina
              > -------- Původní zpráva -------
              > Od: Matej Klimes <mklimes@...<mailto:mklimes%40volny.cz> <mailto:mklimes%40volny.cz>>
              > Komu: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>,
              > Předmět: Re[2]: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
              > Datum: 18.03.2013 12:27
              > ---------------------------------------
              > >
              > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
              > "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > > Rika se tomu inkaso Romano, bud si jej clovek zada rucne, nebo bance
              > >
              > > 'povoli' inkaso na urcity ucet, telefonnimu operatortovi atd..
              > >
              > > Sabino me ty dva terminy pripadaji dost podobne, rozdil je mezi debit a
              > >
              > > withdrawal a mezi authority (vice jako povoleni, tedy to inkaso) a
              > >
              > > order (konkretni prikaz)... ale cele je to nejake divne, asi to nebude
              > >
              > > autenticka anglictina, ze?
              > >
              > > Jestli jde skutecne o platbu za zbozi v el. obchode, tak nam musis rick
              > >
              > > vice podrobnosti/kontextu, pokud mas (jak to probiha, cim to zarucuje
              > >
              > > platbu) a pak mozna neco vymyslime.. Nenapada me moc, jak by platba v
              > >
              > > el. obchode mela probihat jako inkaso, leda ze by slo o pravidelny
              > >
              > > nakup..
              > >
              > > M
              > >
              > > ------ Original Message ------
              > >
              > > From: "Romana" < czechlist@...<mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
              > <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>>
              > >
              > > To: czechlist@...<mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org> <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
              > >
              > > Sent: 18.3.2013 12:04:43
              > >
              > > Subject: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
              > >
              > >> Nevim, jak se tomu rika cesky, ale neni to nic soudniho. Je to
              > >
              > >>proste, ze normalni clovek da sve bance povoleni, ze kdyz urcita treti
              > >
              > >>strana si chce stahnout penize z jejiho uctu, tak to banka ma umoznit.
              > >
              > >>To se tady i v Evrope bezne dela napriklad pro mesicni platby pro
              > >
              > >>telefon, energii, vodu atd. Jak se tomu rika cesky?
              > >
              > >>
              > >
              > >>Romana z Australie
              > >>
              > >>-----Original Message-----
              > >>From: czechlist-bounces@...<mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org>
              > <mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org> [mailto:
              > czechlist-bounces@...<mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org>
              > <mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org>] On Behalf Of
              > sabina.kralova@...<mailto:sabina.kralova%40tiscali.cz> <mailto:sabina.kralova%40tiscali.cz>
              > >>Sent: Monday, 18 March 2013 9:09 PM
              > >>To: czechlist@...<mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org> <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
              > >>Subject: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
              > >>
              > >>Dobry den,
              > >>narazila jsem v prekladu na terminy "direct debit authority" a "direct
              > >>withdrawal order". Predpokladam, ze direct debit authority je souhlas
              > >>s primym inkasem, bohuzel se mi absolutne nedari zjistit cesky termin
              > >>pro "direct withdrawal order"? Jedine, co vim je, ze dluznik nema
              > >>pravo platbu zrusit. Predem dekuji za radu Sabina
              > >>
              > >>_______________________________________________
              > >>Czechlist mailing list
              > >> Czechlist@...<mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org> <mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
              > >> http://www.czechlist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/czechlist
              > >>
              > >>_______________________________________________
              > >>Czechlist mailing list
              > >> Czechlist@...<mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org> <mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
              > >> http://www.czechlist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/czechlist
              > >>
              > >
              > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
              > >
              > >
              > >
              >
              >



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            • Matej Klimes
              ... drawn here between a direct debit authority and a direct withdrawal order: the advantage of a direct withdrawal order from the creditor’s standpoint is
              Message 6 of 17 , Mar 18, 2013
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                >debit note (on delivery) – in many legal systems a distinction must be
                drawn here between a direct debit authority and a direct withdrawal
                order: the advantage of a direct withdrawal order from the creditor’s
                standpoint is that the debtor has no right of cancellation, whereas
                payments made by means of an direct debit authority may be cancelled by
                the debtor, hence payments by direct debit are not completely
                guaranteed in law

                No budes si muset vytvorit vlastni system aby vsechny ty polozky
                fungovaly a nic se nedublovalo, IMHO..

                Debit note je nejaky bankovni instrument, pro platbu v el. obchode dost
                zvlastni pouziti, ale proc ne.. uz pro to mas CZ ekvivalent? Sam nevim,
                co bych tam dal, pokud mozno neco gumoveho... no a ty dva terminy pak
                musi byt podmnozina toho.. ani inkaso ani bankovni prikaz - pokud jsou
                provedene predem a nedojde k faktickemu prevodu penez, IMHO nezarucuji
                pozdejsi platbu... inkaso se da zrusit, prikaz taky..

                Tady jde spis o neco jako bankovni zaruku? Banka se vyjadri ze ano, TY
                se zavazujes zaplatit XY a ze Ti nedovoli ten zavazek zrusit?

                Porad moc nechapu, proc by to melo fungovat u elektronickeho obchodu
                pokud nejde o nejake obrovske objemy penez..

                M




                ------ Original Message ------
                From: "Sabina Králová" <sabina.kralova@...>
                To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: 18.3.2013 12:36:12
                Subject: RE: Re[2]: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
                > Anglictina toho textu je dost hrozna. Jedna se o vycet povolenych
                >platebnich metod:
                >
                >2. Methods of payment
                >Following an analysis of existing freedom of action in the light of
                >the points listed the following configuration options primarily can be
                >considered (listed by length of time interval until receipt of payment
                >or maturity date):
                >· payment in advance or down-payment (prior to delivery)
                >· credit card payment (at time of order or on delivery)
                >· (cash) payment upon delivery
                >· payment (on delivery)
                >· debit note (on delivery) – in many legal systems a distinction must
                >be drawn here between a direct debit authority and a direct withdrawal
                >order: the advantage of a direct withdrawal order from the creditor’s
                >standpoint is that the debtor has no right of cancellation, whereas
                >payments made by means of an direct debit authority may be cancelled
                >by the debtor, hence payments by direct debit are not completely
                >guaranteed in law
                >· payment by draft (on delivery) – in this regard it should be ensured
                >that only banker’s drafts are accepted which result in an immediate
                >credit entry to the vendor’s bank account (only a bank-certified
                >cheque ensures actually collection of the claim as in addition to the
                >issuer the latter’s bank is also liable for payment of the amount of
                >the cheque)
                >· payment on straightforward account (after delivery)
                >· payment on account with a specified payment date (after delivery).
                >Diky
                >Sabina
                >-------- Původní zpráva -------
                >Od: Matej Klimes <mklimes@...>
                >Komu: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com,
                >Předmět: Re[2]: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
                >Datum: 18.03.2013 12:27
                >---------------------------------------
                >>
                >> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
                >>
                >>
                >>
                >> Rika se tomu inkaso Romano, bud si jej clovek zada rucne, nebo bance
                >>
                >> 'povoli' inkaso na urcity ucet, telefonnimu operatortovi atd..
                >>
                >> Sabino me ty dva terminy pripadaji dost podobne, rozdil je mezi
                >debit a
                >>
                >> withdrawal a mezi authority (vice jako povoleni, tedy to inkaso) a
                >>
                >> order (konkretni prikaz)... ale cele je to nejake divne, asi to
                >nebude
                >>
                >> autenticka anglictina, ze?
                >>
                >> Jestli jde skutecne o platbu za zbozi v el. obchode, tak nam musis
                >rick
                >>
                >> vice podrobnosti/kontextu, pokud mas (jak to probiha, cim to
                >zarucuje
                >>
                >> platbu) a pak mozna neco vymyslime.. Nenapada me moc, jak by platba
                >v
                >>
                >> el. obchode mela probihat jako inkaso, leda ze by slo o pravidelny
                >>
                >> nakup..
                >>
                >> M
                >>
                >> ------ Original Message ------
                >>
                >> From: "Romana" < czechlist@...>
                >>
                >> To: czechlist@...
                >>
                >> Sent: 18.3.2013 12:04:43
                >>
                >> Subject: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
                >>
                >>> Nevim, jak se tomu rika cesky, ale neni to nic soudniho. Je to
                >>
                >>>proste, ze normalni clovek da sve bance povoleni, ze kdyz urcita
                >treti
                >>
                >>>strana si chce stahnout penize z jejiho uctu, tak to banka ma
                >umoznit.
                >>
                >>>To se tady i v Evrope bezne dela napriklad pro mesicni platby pro
                >>
                >>>telefon, energii, vodu atd. Jak se tomu rika cesky?
                >>
                >>>
                >>
                >>>Romana z Australie
                >>>
                >>>-----Original Message-----
                >>>From: czechlist-bounces@... [mailto: czechlist-bounces@...] On Behalf Of sabina.kralova@...
                >>>Sent: Monday, 18 March 2013 9:09 PM
                >>>To: czechlist@...
                >>>Subject: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
                >>>
                >>>Dobry den,
                >>>narazila jsem v prekladu na terminy "direct debit authority" a
                >"direct
                >>>withdrawal order". Predpokladam, ze direct debit authority je
                >souhlas
                >>>s primym inkasem, bohuzel se mi absolutne nedari zjistit cesky
                >termin
                >>>pro "direct withdrawal order"? Jedine, co vim je, ze dluznik nema
                >>>pravo platbu zrusit. Predem dekuji za radu Sabina
                >>>
                >>>_______________________________________________
                >>>Czechlist mailing list
                >>> Czechlist@...
                >>> http://www.czechlist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/czechlist
                >>>
                >>>_______________________________________________
                >>>Czechlist mailing list
                >>> Czechlist@...
                >>> http://www.czechlist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/czechlist
                >>>
                >>
                >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                >>
                >>
                >>
                >
                >


                [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
              • Martin Janda
                Jsem, podivej: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22p%C5%99%C3%ADkaz+k+inkasu%22&ie=UTF-8 Martin
                Message 7 of 17 , Mar 18, 2013
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                  Jsem, podivej:
                  https://www.google.com/search?q=%22p%C5%99%C3%ADkaz+k+inkasu%22&ie=UTF-8

                  Martin

                  Dne 18.3.2013 12:50, Pilucha, Jiri napsal(a):
                  >
                  > martine jses si jist, ze nezamenujes prikaz k uhrade a souhlas s inkasem?
                  >
                  >
                  > From: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
                  > [mailto:Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
                  > <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Martin Janda
                  > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:39 PM
                  > To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
                  > Subject: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > Mozna existuje rozdil mezi svolenim k inkasu a prikazem k inkasu? Mne
                  > vzdycky pripadalo, ze je to totez, ale treba se pletu.
                  >
                  > Martin
                  >
                  > Dne 18.3.2013 12:36, Sabina Králová napsal(a):
                  > >
                  > > Anglictina toho textu je dost hrozna. Jedna se o vycet povolenych
                  > > platebnich metod:
                  > >
                  > > 2. Methods of payment
                  > > Following an analysis of existing freedom of action in the light of
                  > > the points listed the following configuration options primarily can be
                  > > considered (listed by length of time interval until receipt of payment
                  > > or maturity date):
                  > > · payment in advance or down-payment (prior to delivery)
                  > > · credit card payment (at time of order or on delivery)
                  > > · (cash) payment upon delivery
                  > > · payment (on delivery)
                  > > · debit note (on delivery) – in many legal systems a distinction must
                  > > be drawn here between a direct debit authority and a direct withdrawal
                  > > order: the advantage of a direct withdrawal order from the creditor’s
                  > > standpoint is that the debtor has no right of cancellation, whereas
                  > > payments made by means of an direct debit authority may be cancelled
                  > > by the debtor, hence payments by direct debit are not completely
                  > > guaranteed in law
                  > > · payment by draft (on delivery) – in this regard it should be ensured
                  > > that only banker’s drafts are accepted which result in an immediate
                  > > credit entry to the vendor’s bank account (only a bank-certified
                  > > cheque ensures actually collection of the claim as in addition to the
                  > > issuer the latter’s bank is also liable for payment of the amount of
                  > > the cheque)
                  > > · payment on straightforward account (after delivery)
                  > > · payment on account with a specified payment date (after delivery).
                  > > Diky
                  > > Sabina
                  > > -------- Původní zpráva -------
                  > > Od: Matej Klimes <mklimes@...
                  > <mailto:mklimes%40volny.cz><mailto:mklimes%40volny.cz>
                  > <mailto:mklimes%40volny.cz>>
                  > > Komu: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
                  > <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
                  > <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>,
                  > > Předmět: Re[2]: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
                  > > Datum: 18.03.2013 12:27
                  > > ---------------------------------------
                  > > >
                  > > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
                  > > "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > > Rika se tomu inkaso Romano, bud si jej clovek zada rucne, nebo bance
                  > > >
                  > > > 'povoli' inkaso na urcity ucet, telefonnimu operatortovi atd..
                  > > >
                  > > > Sabino me ty dva terminy pripadaji dost podobne, rozdil je mezi
                  > debit a
                  > > >
                  > > > withdrawal a mezi authority (vice jako povoleni, tedy to inkaso) a
                  > > >
                  > > > order (konkretni prikaz)... ale cele je to nejake divne, asi to
                  > nebude
                  > > >
                  > > > autenticka anglictina, ze?
                  > > >
                  > > > Jestli jde skutecne o platbu za zbozi v el. obchode, tak nam musis
                  > rick
                  > > >
                  > > > vice podrobnosti/kontextu, pokud mas (jak to probiha, cim to zarucuje
                  > > >
                  > > > platbu) a pak mozna neco vymyslime.. Nenapada me moc, jak by platba v
                  > > >
                  > > > el. obchode mela probihat jako inkaso, leda ze by slo o pravidelny
                  > > >
                  > > > nakup..
                  > > >
                  > > > M
                  > > >
                  > > > ------ Original Message ------
                  > > >
                  > > > From: "Romana" < czechlist@...
                  > <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                  > > <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>>
                  > > >
                  > > > To: czechlist@...
                  > <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                  > <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                  > > >
                  > > > Sent: 18.3.2013 12:04:43
                  > > >
                  > > > Subject: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
                  > > >
                  > > >> Nevim, jak se tomu rika cesky, ale neni to nic soudniho. Je to
                  > > >
                  > > >>proste, ze normalni clovek da sve bance povoleni, ze kdyz urcita
                  > treti
                  > > >
                  > > >>strana si chce stahnout penize z jejiho uctu, tak to banka ma
                  > umoznit.
                  > > >
                  > > >>To se tady i v Evrope bezne dela napriklad pro mesicni platby pro
                  > > >
                  > > >>telefon, energii, vodu atd. Jak se tomu rika cesky?
                  > > >
                  > > >>
                  > > >
                  > > >>Romana z Australie
                  > > >>
                  > > >>-----Original Message-----
                  > > >>From: czechlist-bounces@...
                  > <mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org>
                  >
                  > > <mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org> [mailto:
                  > > czechlist-bounces@...
                  > <mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org>
                  >
                  > > <mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org>] On Behalf Of
                  > > sabina.kralova@...
                  > <mailto:sabina.kralova%40tiscali.cz><mailto:sabina.kralova%40tiscali.cz>
                  > <mailto:sabina.kralova%40tiscali.cz>
                  > > >>Sent: Monday, 18 March 2013 9:09 PM
                  > > >>To: czechlist@...
                  > <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                  > <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                  > > >>Subject: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
                  > > >>
                  > > >>Dobry den,
                  > > >>narazila jsem v prekladu na terminy "direct debit authority" a
                  > "direct
                  > > >>withdrawal order". Predpokladam, ze direct debit authority je souhlas
                  > > >>s primym inkasem, bohuzel se mi absolutne nedari zjistit cesky termin
                  > > >>pro "direct withdrawal order"? Jedine, co vim je, ze dluznik nema
                  > > >>pravo platbu zrusit. Predem dekuji za radu Sabina
                  > > >>
                  > > >>_______________________________________________
                  > > >>Czechlist mailing list
                  > > >> Czechlist@...
                  > <mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                  > <mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                  > > >> http://www.czechlist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/czechlist
                  > > >>
                  > > >>_______________________________________________
                  > > >>Czechlist mailing list
                  > > >> Czechlist@...
                  > <mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                  > <mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                  > > >> http://www.czechlist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/czechlist
                  > > >>
                  > > >
                  > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  >
                  >
                  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                  >
                  >
                • Pilucha, Jiri
                  ok diky, to jsem neznal From: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Czechlist@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Janda Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 4:22 PM To:
                  Message 8 of 17 , Mar 18, 2013
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                    ok diky, to jsem neznal

                    From: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Czechlist@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Janda
                    Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 4:22 PM
                    To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
                    Subject: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit



                    Jsem, podivej:
                    https://www.google.com/search?q=%22p%C5%99%C3%ADkaz+k+inkasu%22&ie=UTF-8

                    Martin

                    Dne 18.3.2013 12:50, Pilucha, Jiri napsal(a):
                    >
                    > martine jses si jist, ze nezamenujes prikaz k uhrade a souhlas s inkasem?
                    >
                    >
                    > From: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
                    > [mailto:Czechlist@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
                    > <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Martin Janda
                    > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:39 PM
                    > To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
                    > Subject: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > Mozna existuje rozdil mezi svolenim k inkasu a prikazem k inkasu? Mne
                    > vzdycky pripadalo, ze je to totez, ale treba se pletu.
                    >
                    > Martin
                    >
                    > Dne 18.3.2013 12:36, Sabina Králová napsal(a):
                    > >
                    > > Anglictina toho textu je dost hrozna. Jedna se o vycet povolenych
                    > > platebnich metod:
                    > >
                    > > 2. Methods of payment
                    > > Following an analysis of existing freedom of action in the light of
                    > > the points listed the following configuration options primarily can be
                    > > considered (listed by length of time interval until receipt of payment
                    > > or maturity date):
                    > > · payment in advance or down-payment (prior to delivery)
                    > > · credit card payment (at time of order or on delivery)
                    > > · (cash) payment upon delivery
                    > > · payment (on delivery)
                    > > · debit note (on delivery) – in many legal systems a distinction must
                    > > be drawn here between a direct debit authority and a direct withdrawal
                    > > order: the advantage of a direct withdrawal order from the creditor’s
                    > > standpoint is that the debtor has no right of cancellation, whereas
                    > > payments made by means of an direct debit authority may be cancelled
                    > > by the debtor, hence payments by direct debit are not completely
                    > > guaranteed in law
                    > > · payment by draft (on delivery) – in this regard it should be ensured
                    > > that only banker’s drafts are accepted which result in an immediate
                    > > credit entry to the vendor’s bank account (only a bank-certified
                    > > cheque ensures actually collection of the claim as in addition to the
                    > > issuer the latter’s bank is also liable for payment of the amount of
                    > > the cheque)
                    > > · payment on straightforward account (after delivery)
                    > > · payment on account with a specified payment date (after delivery).
                    > > Diky
                    > > Sabina
                    > > -------- Původní zpráva -------
                    > > Od: Matej Klimes <mklimes@...<mailto:mklimes%40volny.cz>
                    > <mailto:mklimes%40volny.cz><mailto:mklimes%40volny.cz>
                    > <mailto:mklimes%40volny.cz>>
                    > > Komu: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
                    > <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
                    > <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>,
                    > > Předmět: Re[2]: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
                    > > Datum: 18.03.2013 12:27
                    > > ---------------------------------------
                    > > >
                    > > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
                    > > "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > Rika se tomu inkaso Romano, bud si jej clovek zada rucne, nebo bance
                    > > >
                    > > > 'povoli' inkaso na urcity ucet, telefonnimu operatortovi atd..
                    > > >
                    > > > Sabino me ty dva terminy pripadaji dost podobne, rozdil je mezi
                    > debit a
                    > > >
                    > > > withdrawal a mezi authority (vice jako povoleni, tedy to inkaso) a
                    > > >
                    > > > order (konkretni prikaz)... ale cele je to nejake divne, asi to
                    > nebude
                    > > >
                    > > > autenticka anglictina, ze?
                    > > >
                    > > > Jestli jde skutecne o platbu za zbozi v el. obchode, tak nam musis
                    > rick
                    > > >
                    > > > vice podrobnosti/kontextu, pokud mas (jak to probiha, cim to zarucuje
                    > > >
                    > > > platbu) a pak mozna neco vymyslime.. Nenapada me moc, jak by platba v
                    > > >
                    > > > el. obchode mela probihat jako inkaso, leda ze by slo o pravidelny
                    > > >
                    > > > nakup..
                    > > >
                    > > > M
                    > > >
                    > > > ------ Original Message ------
                    > > >
                    > > > From: "Romana" < czechlist@...<mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                    > <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                    > > <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>>
                    > > >
                    > > > To: czechlist@...<mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                    > <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                    > <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                    > > >
                    > > > Sent: 18.3.2013 12:04:43
                    > > >
                    > > > Subject: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
                    > > >
                    > > >> Nevim, jak se tomu rika cesky, ale neni to nic soudniho. Je to
                    > > >
                    > > >>proste, ze normalni clovek da sve bance povoleni, ze kdyz urcita
                    > treti
                    > > >
                    > > >>strana si chce stahnout penize z jejiho uctu, tak to banka ma
                    > umoznit.
                    > > >
                    > > >>To se tady i v Evrope bezne dela napriklad pro mesicni platby pro
                    > > >
                    > > >>telefon, energii, vodu atd. Jak se tomu rika cesky?
                    > > >
                    > > >>
                    > > >
                    > > >>Romana z Australie
                    > > >>
                    > > >>-----Original Message-----
                    > > >>From: czechlist-bounces@...<mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org>
                    > <mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org>
                    >
                    > > <mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org> [mailto:
                    > > czechlist-bounces@...<mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org>
                    > <mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org>
                    >
                    > > <mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org>] On Behalf Of
                    > > sabina.kralova@...<mailto:sabina.kralova%40tiscali.cz>
                    > <mailto:sabina.kralova%40tiscali.cz><mailto:sabina.kralova%40tiscali.cz>
                    > <mailto:sabina.kralova%40tiscali.cz>
                    > > >>Sent: Monday, 18 March 2013 9:09 PM
                    > > >>To: czechlist@...<mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                    > <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                    > <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                    > > >>Subject: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
                    > > >>
                    > > >>Dobry den,
                    > > >>narazila jsem v prekladu na terminy "direct debit authority" a
                    > "direct
                    > > >>withdrawal order". Predpokladam, ze direct debit authority je souhlas
                    > > >>s primym inkasem, bohuzel se mi absolutne nedari zjistit cesky termin
                    > > >>pro "direct withdrawal order"? Jedine, co vim je, ze dluznik nema
                    > > >>pravo platbu zrusit. Predem dekuji za radu Sabina
                    > > >>
                    > > >>_______________________________________________
                    > > >>Czechlist mailing list
                    > > >> Czechlist@...<mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                    > <mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                    > <mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                    > > >> http://www.czechlist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/czechlist
                    > > >>
                    > > >>_______________________________________________
                    > > >>Czechlist mailing list
                    > > >> Czechlist@...<mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                    > <mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                    > <mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                    > > >> http://www.czechlist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/czechlist
                    > > >>
                    > > >
                    > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    >
                    >
                    > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                    >
                    >



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                  • Sabina Králová
                    Ahoj Martine, diky. Mozna by to mohlo byt ono. Pokud mi zakaznik neposle vysvetleni, tak to pouziju s poznamkou pod carou. Sabina ... Od: Martin Janda
                    Message 9 of 17 , Mar 18, 2013
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                      Ahoj Martine,

                      diky. Mozna by to mohlo byt ono. Pokud mi zakaznik neposle vysvetleni, tak to pouziju s poznamkou pod carou.
                      Sabina
                      -------- Původní zpráva -------
                      Od: Martin Janda <mjanda@...>
                      Komu: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
                      Předmět: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
                      Datum: 18.03.2013 16:25
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                      >
                      > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://wwww3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
                      >
                      >  
                      >
                      > Jsem, podivej:
                      >
                      > https://www.google.com/search?q=%22p%C5%99%C3%ADkaz+k+inkasu%22&ie=UTF-8
                      >
                      > Martin
                      >
                      > Dne 18.3.2013 12:50, Pilucha, Jiri napsal(a):
                      >
                      >>
                      >
                      >> martine jses si jist, ze nezamenujes prikaz k uhrade a souhlas s inkasem?
                      >
                      >>
                      >
                      >>
                      >
                      >> From: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
                      >
                      >> [mailto: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
                      >
                      >> <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Martin Janda
                      >
                      >> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:39 PM
                      >
                      >> To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
                      >
                      >> Subject: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
                      >
                      >>
                      >
                      >>
                      >
                      >>
                      >
                      >> Mozna existuje rozdil mezi svolenim k inkasu a prikazem k inkasu? Mne
                      >
                      >> vzdycky pripadalo, ze je to totez, ale treba se pletu.
                      >
                      >>
                      >
                      >> Martin
                      >
                      >>
                      >
                      >> Dne 18.3.2013 12:36, Sabina Králová napsal(a):
                      >
                      >> >
                      >
                      >> > Anglictina toho textu je dost hrozna. Jedna se o vycet povolenych
                      >> > platebnich metod:
                      >> >
                      >> > 2. Methods of payment
                      >> > Following an analysis of existing freedom of action in the light of
                      >> > the points listed the following configuration options primarily can be
                      >> > considered (listed by length of time interval until receipt of payment
                      >> > or maturity date):
                      >> > · payment in advance or down-payment (prior to delivery)
                      >> > · credit card payment (at time of order or on delivery)
                      >> > · (cash) payment upon delivery
                      >> > · payment (on delivery)
                      >> > · debit note (on delivery) – in many legal systems a distinction must
                      >> > be drawn here between a direct debit authority and a direct withdrawal
                      >> > order: the advantage of a direct withdrawal order from the creditor’s
                      >> > standpoint is that the debtor has no right of cancellation, whereas
                      >> > payments made by means of an direct debit authority may be cancelled
                      >> > by the debtor, hence payments by direct debit are not completely
                      >> > guaranteed in law
                      >> > · payment by draft (on delivery) – in this regard it should be ensured
                      >> > that only banker’s drafts are accepted which result in an immediate
                      >> > credit entry to the vendor’s bank account (only a bank-certified
                      >> > cheque ensures actually collection of the claim as in addition to the
                      >> > issuer the latter’s bank is also liable for payment of the amount of
                      >> > the cheque)
                      >> > · payment on straightforward account (after delivery)
                      >> > · payment on account with a specified payment date (after delivery).
                      >> > Diky
                      >> > Sabina
                      >> > -------- Původní zpráva -------
                      >> > Od: Matej Klimes < mklimes@...
                      >> <mailto:mklimes%40volny.cz><mailto:mklimes%40volny.cz>
                      >> <mailto:mklimes%40volny.cz>>
                      >> > Komu: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
                      >> <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
                      >> <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>,
                      >> > Předmět: Re[2]: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
                      >> > Datum: 18.03.2013 12:27
                      >> > ---------------------------------------
                      >> > >
                      >> > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
                      >> > " http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
                      >> > >
                      >> > >
                      >> > >
                      >> > > Rika se tomu inkaso Romano, bud si jej clovek zada rucne, nebo bance
                      >> > >
                      >> > > 'povoli' inkaso na urcity ucet, telefonnimu operatortovi atd..
                      >> > >
                      >> > > Sabino me ty dva terminy pripadaji dost podobne, rozdil je mezi
                      >> debit a
                      >> > >
                      >> > > withdrawal a mezi authority (vice jako povoleni, tedy to inkaso) a
                      >> > >
                      >> > > order (konkretni prikaz)... ale cele je to nejake divne, asi to
                      >> nebude
                      >> > >
                      >> > > autenticka anglictina, ze?
                      >> > >
                      >> > > Jestli jde skutecne o platbu za zbozi v el obchode, tak nam musis
                      >> rick
                      >> > >
                      >> > > vice podrobnosti/kontextu, pokud mas (jak to probiha, cim to zarucuje
                      >> > >
                      >> > > platbu) a pak mozna neco vymyslime.. Nenapada me moc, jak by platba v
                      >> > >
                      >> > > el. obchode mela probihat jako inkaso, leda ze by slo o pravidelny
                      >> > >
                      >> > > nakup..
                      >> > >
                      >> > > M
                      >> > >
                      >> > > ------ Original Message ------
                      >> > >
                      >> > > From: "Romana" < czechlist@...
                      >> <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                      >> > <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>>
                      >> > >
                      >> > > To: czechlist@...
                      >> <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                      >> <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                      >> > >
                      >> > > Sent: 18.3.2013 12:04:43
                      >> > >
                      >> > > Subject: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
                      >> > >
                      >> > >> Nevim, jak se tomu rika cesky, ale neni to nic soudniho. Je to
                      >> > >
                      >> > >>proste, ze normalni clovek da sve bance povoleni, ze kdyz urcita
                      >> treti
                      >> > >
                      >> > >>strana si chce stahnout penize z jejiho uctu, tak to banka ma
                      >> umoznit.
                      >> > >
                      >> > >>To se tady i v Evrope bezne dela napriklad pro mesicni platby pro
                      >> > >
                      >> > >>telefon, energii, vodu atd. Jak se tomu rika cesky?
                      >> > >
                      >> > >>
                      >> > >
                      >> > >>Romana z Australie
                      >> > >>
                      >> > >>-----Original Message-----
                      >> > >>From: czechlist-bounces@...
                      >> <mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org>
                      >>
                      >> > <mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org> [mailto:
                      >> > czechlist-bounces@...
                      >> <mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org>
                      >>
                      >> > <mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org>] On Behalf Of
                      >> > sabina.kralova@...
                      >> <mailto:sabina.kralova%40tiscali.cz><mailto:sabina.kralova%40tiscali.cz>
                      >> <mailto:sabina.kralova%40tiscali.cz>
                      >> > >>Sent: Monday, 18 March 2013 9:09 PM
                      >> > >>To: czechlist@...
                      >> <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                      >> <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                      >> > >>Subject: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
                      >> > >>
                      >> > >>Dobry den,
                      >> > >>narazila jsem v prekladu na terminy "direct debit authority" a
                      >> "direct
                      >> > >>withdrawal order" Predpokladam, ze direct debit authority je souhlas
                      >> > >>s primym inkasem, bohuzel se mi absolutne nedari zjistit cesky termin
                      >> > >>pro "direct withdrawal order"? Jedine, co vim je, ze dluznik nema
                      >> > >>pravo platbu zrusit. Predem dekuji za radu Sabina
                      >> > >>
                      >> > >>_______________________________________________
                      >> > >>Czechlist mailing list
                      >> > >> Czechlist@...
                      >> <mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                      >> <mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                      >> > >> http://www.czechlist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/czechlist
                      >> > >>
                      >> > >>_______________________________________________
                      >> > >>Czechlist mailing list
                      >> > >> Czechlist@...
                      >> <mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                      >> <mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                      >> > >> http://www.czechlist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/czechlist
                      >> > >>
                      >> > >
                      >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                      >> > >
                      >> > >
                      >> > >
                      >> >
                      >> >
                      >>
                      >>
                      >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                      >>
                      >>
                      >
                      >
                      >
                    • Pavel
                      Ahoj, podle mì povolení k inkasu zadávám já jako plátce tøeba úètu za telefon, pøíkaz k inkasu pak posílá mùj telefonní operátor na základì
                      Message 10 of 17 , Mar 19, 2013
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                        Ahoj,

                        podle mì povolení k inkasu zadávám já jako plátce tøeba úètu za telefon, pøíkaz k inkasu pak posílá mùj telefonní operátor na základì mého povolení k inkasu. Zrušit pøíkaz nemùžu, já ho nezadávám, ale povolení k inkasu zrušit mùžu. To je ale asi jasné.

                        V kontextu toho seznamu platebních zpùsobù to zní, jako kdyby to byly nìjaké naøízené inkasní platby (tøeba v pøípadì exekuce z úètu) - ty pak zrušit nemùžu.

                        Pavel

                        --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, "Sabina Králová" <sabina.kralova@...> wrote:
                        >
                        > Ahoj Martine,
                        >
                        > diky. Mozna by to mohlo byt ono. Pokud mi zakaznik neposle vysvetleni, tak to pouziju s poznamkou pod carou.
                        > Sabina
                        > -------- Původní zpráva -------
                        > Od: Martin Janda <mjanda@...>
                        > Komu: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
                        > Předmět: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
                        > Datum: 18.03.2013 16:25
                        > ---------------------------------------
                        > >
                        > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://wwww3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
                        > >
                        > >  
                        > >
                        > > Jsem, podivej:
                        > >
                        > > https://www.google.com/search?q=%22p%C5%99%C3%ADkaz+k+inkasu%22&ie=UTF-8
                        > >
                        > > Martin
                        > >
                        > > Dne 18.3.2013 12:50, Pilucha, Jiri napsal(a):
                        > >
                        > >>
                        > >
                        > >> martine jses si jist, ze nezamenujes prikaz k uhrade a souhlas s inkasem?
                        > >
                        > >>
                        > >
                        > >>
                        > >
                        > >> From: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
                        > >
                        > >> [mailto: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
                        > >
                        > >> <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Martin Janda
                        > >
                        > >> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:39 PM
                        > >
                        > >> To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
                        > >
                        > >> Subject: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
                        > >
                        > >>
                        > >
                        > >>
                        > >
                        > >>
                        > >
                        > >> Mozna existuje rozdil mezi svolenim k inkasu a prikazem k inkasu? Mne
                        > >
                        > >> vzdycky pripadalo, ze je to totez, ale treba se pletu.
                        > >
                        > >>
                        > >
                        > >> Martin
                        > >
                        > >>
                        > >
                        > >> Dne 18.3.2013 12:36, Sabina Králová napsal(a):
                        > >
                        > >> >
                        > >
                        > >> > Anglictina toho textu je dost hrozna. Jedna se o vycet povolenych
                        > >> > platebnich metod:
                        > >> >
                        > >> > 2. Methods of payment
                        > >> > Following an analysis of existing freedom of action in the light of
                        > >> > the points listed the following configuration options primarily can be
                        > >> > considered (listed by length of time interval until receipt of payment
                        > >> > or maturity date):
                        > >> > · payment in advance or down-payment (prior to delivery)
                        > >> > · credit card payment (at time of order or on delivery)
                        > >> > · (cash) payment upon delivery
                        > >> > · payment (on delivery)
                        > >> > · debit note (on delivery) â€" in many legal systems a distinction must
                        > >> > be drawn here between a direct debit authority and a direct withdrawal
                        > >> > order: the advantage of a direct withdrawal order from the creditor’s
                        > >> > standpoint is that the debtor has no right of cancellation, whereas
                        > >> > payments made by means of an direct debit authority may be cancelled
                        > >> > by the debtor, hence payments by direct debit are not completely
                        > >> > guaranteed in law
                        > >> > · payment by draft (on delivery) â€" in this regard it should be ensured
                        > >> > that only banker’s drafts are accepted which result in an immediate
                        > >> > credit entry to the vendor’s bank account (only a bank-certified
                        > >> > cheque ensures actually collection of the claim as in addition to the
                        > >> > issuer the latter’s bank is also liable for payment of the amount of
                        > >> > the cheque)
                        > >> > · payment on straightforward account (after delivery)
                        > >> > · payment on account with a specified payment date (after delivery).
                        > >> > Diky
                        > >> > Sabina
                        > >> > -------- Původní zpráva -------
                        > >> > Od: Matej Klimes < mklimes@...
                        > >> <mailto:mklimes%40volny.cz><mailto:mklimes%40volny.cz>
                        > >> <mailto:mklimes%40volny.cz>>
                        > >> > Komu: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
                        > >> <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
                        > >> <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>,
                        > >> > Předmět: Re[2]: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
                        > >> > Datum: 18.03.2013 12:27
                        > >> > ---------------------------------------
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
                        > >> > " http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > > Rika se tomu inkaso Romano, bud si jej clovek zada rucne, nebo bance
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > > 'povoli' inkaso na urcity ucet, telefonnimu operatortovi atd..
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > > Sabino me ty dva terminy pripadaji dost podobne, rozdil je mezi
                        > >> debit a
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > > withdrawal a mezi authority (vice jako povoleni, tedy to inkaso) a
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > > order (konkretni prikaz)... ale cele je to nejake divne, asi to
                        > >> nebude
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > > autenticka anglictina, ze?
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > > Jestli jde skutecne o platbu za zbozi v el obchode, tak nam musis
                        > >> rick
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > > vice podrobnosti/kontextu, pokud mas (jak to probiha, cim to zarucuje
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > > platbu) a pak mozna neco vymyslime.. Nenapada me moc, jak by platba v
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > > el. obchode mela probihat jako inkaso, leda ze by slo o pravidelny
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > > nakup..
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > > M
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > > ------ Original Message ------
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > > From: "Romana" < czechlist@...
                        > >> <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                        > >> > <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>>
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > > To: czechlist@...
                        > >> <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                        > >> <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > > Sent: 18.3.2013 12:04:43
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > > Subject: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > >> Nevim, jak se tomu rika cesky, ale neni to nic soudniho. Je to
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > >>proste, ze normalni clovek da sve bance povoleni, ze kdyz urcita
                        > >> treti
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > >>strana si chce stahnout penize z jejiho uctu, tak to banka ma
                        > >> umoznit.
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > >>To se tady i v Evrope bezne dela napriklad pro mesicni platby pro
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > >>telefon, energii, vodu atd. Jak se tomu rika cesky?
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > >>
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > >>Romana z Australie
                        > >> > >>
                        > >> > >>-----Original Message-----
                        > >> > >>From: czechlist-bounces@...
                        > >> <mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org>
                        > >>
                        > >> > <mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org> [mailto:
                        > >> > czechlist-bounces@...
                        > >> <mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org>
                        > >>
                        > >> > <mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org>] On Behalf Of
                        > >> > sabina.kralova@...
                        > >> <mailto:sabina.kralova%40tiscali.cz><mailto:sabina.kralova%40tiscali.cz>
                        > >> <mailto:sabina.kralova%40tiscali.cz>
                        > >> > >>Sent: Monday, 18 March 2013 9:09 PM
                        > >> > >>To: czechlist@...
                        > >> <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                        > >> <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                        > >> > >>Subject: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
                        > >> > >>
                        > >> > >>Dobry den,
                        > >> > >>narazila jsem v prekladu na terminy "direct debit authority" a
                        > >> "direct
                        > >> > >>withdrawal order" Predpokladam, ze direct debit authority je souhlas
                        > >> > >>s primym inkasem, bohuzel se mi absolutne nedari zjistit cesky termin
                        > >> > >>pro "direct withdrawal order"? Jedine, co vim je, ze dluznik nema
                        > >> > >>pravo platbu zrusit. Predem dekuji za radu Sabina
                        > >> > >>
                        > >> > >>_______________________________________________
                        > >> > >>Czechlist mailing list
                        > >> > >> Czechlist@...
                        > >> <mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                        > >> <mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                        > >> > >> http://www.czechlist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/czechlist
                        > >> > >>
                        > >> > >>_______________________________________________
                        > >> > >>Czechlist mailing list
                        > >> > >> Czechlist@...
                        > >> <mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                        > >> <mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                        > >> > >> http://www.czechlist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/czechlist
                        > >> > >>
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > >
                        > >> >
                        > >> >
                        > >>
                        > >>
                        > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                        > >>
                        > >>
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        >
                      • Sabina Králová
                        Diky Pavle. Sabina ... Od: Pavel Komu: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com Předmět: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
                        Message 11 of 17 , Mar 19, 2013
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                          Diky Pavle.
                          Sabina

                          -------- Původní zpráva -------
                          Od: Pavel <PavelJanousek@...>
                          Komu: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
                          Předmět: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
                          Datum: 19.03.2013 20:50
                          ---------------------------------------
                          >
                          > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
                          >
                          >  
                          >
                          > Ahoj,
                          >
                          > podle mì povolení k inkasu zadávám já jako plátce tøeba úètu za telefon, pøíkaz k inkasu pak posílá mùj telefonní operátor na základì mého povolení k inkasu. Zrušit pøíkaz nemùžu, já ho nezadávám, ale povolení k inkasu zrušit mùžu. To je ale asi jasné.
                          >
                          > V kontextu toho seznamu platebních zpùsobù to zní, jako kdyby to byly nìjaké naøízené inkasní platby (tøeba v pøípadì exekuce z úètu) - ty pak zrušit nemùžu.
                          >
                          > Pavel
                          >
                          > --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, "Sabina Králová" <sabina.kralova@...> wrote:
                          >
                          >>
                          >
                          >> Ahoj Martine,
                          >
                          >>
                          >
                          >> diky. Mozna by to mohlo byt ono. Pokud mi zakaznik neposle vysvetleni, tak to pouziju s poznamkou pod carou.
                          >
                          >> Sabina
                          >
                          >> -------- Původní zpráva -------
                          >
                          >> Od: Martin Janda <mjanda@...>
                          >
                          >> Komu: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
                          >
                          >> Předmět: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
                          >
                          >> Datum: 18.03.2013 16:25
                          >
                          >> ---------------------------------------
                          >
                          >> >
                          >
                          >> > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" " http://wwww3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
                          >
                          >> >
                          >
                          >> >  
                          >
                          >> >
                          >
                          >> > Jsem, podivej:
                          >
                          >> >
                          >> > https://www.google.com/search?q=%22p%C5%99%C3%ADkaz+k+inkasu%22&ie=UTF-8
                          >> >
                          >> > Martin
                          >> >
                          >> > Dne 18.3.2013 12:50, Pilucha, Jiri napsal(a):
                          >> >
                          >> >>
                          >> >
                          >> >> martine jses si jist, ze nezamenujes prikaz k uhrade a souhlas s inkasem?
                          >> >
                          >> >>
                          >> >
                          >> >>
                          >> >
                          >> >> From: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
                          >> >
                          >> >> [mailto: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
                          >> >
                          >> >> <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Martin Janda
                          >> >
                          >> >> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:39 PM
                          >> >
                          >> >> To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
                          >> >
                          >> >> Subject: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
                          >> >
                          >> >>
                          >> >
                          >> >>
                          >> >
                          >> >>
                          >> >
                          >> >> Mozna existuje rozdil mezi svolenim k inkasu a prikazem k inkasu? Mne
                          >> >
                          >> >> vzdycky pripadalo, ze je to totez, ale treba se pletu.
                          >> >
                          >> >>
                          >> >
                          >> >> Martin
                          >> >
                          >> >>
                          >> >
                          >> >> Dne 18.3.2013 12:36, Sabina Králová napsal(a):
                          >> >
                          >> >> >
                          >> >
                          >> >> > Anglictina toho textu je dost hrozna. Jedna se o vycet povolenych
                          >> >> > platebnich metod:
                          >> >> >
                          >> >> > 2. Methods of payment
                          >> >> > Following an analysis of existing freedom of action in the light of
                          >> >> > the points listed the following configuration options primarily can be
                          >> >> > considered (listed by length of time interval until receipt of payment
                          >> >> > or maturity date):
                          >> >> > · payment in advance or down-payment (prior to delivery)
                          >> >> > · credit card payment (at time of order or on delivery)
                          >> >> > · (cash) payment upon delivery
                          >> >> > · payment (on delivery)
                          >> >> > · debit note (on delivery) â€" in many legal systems a distinction must
                          >> >> > be drawn here between a direct debit authority and a direct withdrawal
                          >> >> > order: the advantage of a direct withdrawal order from the creditor’s
                          >> >> > standpoint is that the debtor has no right of cancellation, whereas
                          >> >> > payments made by means of an direct debit authority may be cancelled
                          >> >> > by the debtor, hence payments by direct debit are not completely
                          >> >> > guaranteed in law
                          >> >> > · payment by draft (on delivery) â€" in this regard it should be ensured
                          >> >> > that only banker’s drafts are accepted which result in an immediate
                          >> >> > credit entry to the vendor’s bank account (only a bank-certified
                          >> >> > cheque ensures actually collection of the claim as in addition to the
                          >> >> > issuer the latter’s bank is also liable for payment of the amount of
                          >> >> > the cheque)
                          >> >> > · payment on straightforward account (after delivery)
                          >> >> > · payment on account with a specified payment date (after delivery).
                          >> >> > Diky
                          >> >> > Sabina
                          >> >> > -------- Původní zpráva -------
                          >> >> > Od: Matej Klimes < mklimes@...
                          >> >> <mailto:mklimes%40volny.cz><mailto:mklimes%40volny.cz>
                          >> >> <mailto:mklimes%40volny.cz>>
                          >> >> > Komu: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
                          >> >> <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
                          >> >> <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>,
                          >> >> > Předmět: Re[2]: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
                          >> >> > Datum: 18.03.2013 12:27
                          >> >> > ---------------------------------------
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 401//EN"
                          >> >> > " http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > > Rika se tomu inkaso Romano, bud si jej clovek zada rucne, nebo bance
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > > 'povoli' inkaso na urcity ucet, telefonnimu operatortovi atd..
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > > Sabino me ty dva terminy pripadaji dost podobne, rozdil je mezi
                          >> >> debit a
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > > withdrawal a mezi authority (vice jako povoleni, tedy to inkaso) a
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > > order (konkretni prikaz)... ale cele je to nejake divne, asi to
                          >> >> nebude
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > > autenticka anglictina, ze?
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > > Jestli jde skutecne o platbu za zbozi v el obchode, tak nam musis
                          >> >> rick
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > > vice podrobnosti/kontextu, pokud mas (jak to probiha, cim to zarucuje
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > > platbu) a pak mozna neco vymyslime.. Nenapada me moc, jak by platba v
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > > el. obchode mela probihat jako inkaso, leda ze by slo o pravidelny
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > > nakup..
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > > M
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > > ------ Original Message ------
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > > From: "Romana" < czechlist@...
                          >> >> <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                          >> >> > <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>>
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > > To: czechlist@...
                          >> >> <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                          >> >> <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > > Sent: 18.3.2013 12:04:43
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > > Subject: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > >> Nevim, jak se tomu rika cesky, ale neni to nic soudniho. Je to
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > >>proste, ze normalni clovek da sve bance povoleni, ze kdyz urcita
                          >> >> treti
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > >>strana si chce stahnout penize z jejiho uctu, tak to banka ma
                          >> >> umoznit.
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > >>To se tady i v Evrope bezne dela napriklad pro mesicni platby pro
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > >>telefon, energii, vodu atd. Jak se tomu rika cesky?
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > >>
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > >>Romana z Australie
                          >> >> > >>
                          >> >> > >>-----Original Message-----
                          >> >> > >>From: czechlist-bounces@...
                          >> >> <mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org>
                          >> >>
                          >> >> > <mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org> [mailto:
                          >> >> > czechlist-bounces@...
                          >> >> <mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org>
                          >> >>
                          >> >> > <mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org>] On Behalf Of
                          >> >> > sabina.kralova@...
                          >> >> <mailto:sabinakralova%40tiscali.cz><mailto:sabina.kralova%40tiscali.cz>
                          >> >> <mailto:sabina.kralova%40tiscali.cz>
                          >> >> > >>Sent: Monday, 18 March 2013 9:09 PM
                          >> >> > >>To: czechlist@...
                          >> >> <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                          >> >> <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                          >> >> > >>Subject: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
                          >> >> > >>
                          >> >> > >>Dobry den,
                          >> >> > >>narazila jsem v prekladu na terminy "direct debit authority" a
                          >> >> "direct
                          >> >> > >>withdrawal order" Predpokladam, ze direct debit authority je souhlas
                          >> >> > >>s primym inkasem, bohuzel se mi absolutne nedari zjistit cesky termin
                          >> >> > >>pro "direct withdrawal order"? Jedine, co vim je, ze dluznik nema
                          >> >> > >>pravo platbu zrusit. Predem dekuji za radu Sabina
                          >> >> > >>
                          >> >> > >>_______________________________________________
                          >> >> > >>Czechlist mailing list
                          >> >> > >> Czechlist@...
                          >> >> <mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                          >> >> <mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                          >> >> > >> http://www.czechlist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/czechlist
                          >> >> > >>
                          >> >> > >>_______________________________________________
                          >> >> > >>Czechlist mailing list
                          >> >> > >> Czechlist@...
                          >> >> <mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                          >> >> <mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                          >> >> > >> http://www.czechlist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/czechlist
                          >> >> > >>
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> >
                          >> >> >
                          >> >>
                          >> >>
                          >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                          >> >>
                          >> >>
                          >> >
                          >> >
                          >> >
                          >>
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                        • Matej Klimes
                          ... nìjaké naøízené inkasní platby (tøeba v pøípadì exekuce z úètu) - ty pak zrušit nemùžu. A Tobe uz nekdy udelal eShop exekuci na uctu? Ten
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                            > V kontextu toho seznamu platebních zpùsobù to zní, jako kdyby to byly
                            nìjaké naøízené inkasní platby (tøeba v pøípadì exekuce z úètu) - ty
                            pak zrušit nemùžu.

                            A Tobe uz nekdy udelal eShop exekuci na uctu? Ten text byl nejaky
                            blabol z EU o podminkach pro elektronicke obchody, rikala Sabina...
                            nekdo v Bruselu se asi ukec.. nedava to moc smysl..

                            M
                            ------ Original Message ------
                            From: "Pavel" <PavelJanousek@...>
                            To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
                            Sent: 19.3.2013 20:49:57
                            Subject: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
                            > Ahoj,
                            >
                            >podle mì povolení k inkasu zadávám já jako plátce tøeba úètu za
                            >telefon, pøíkaz k inkasu pak posílá mùj telefonní operátor na základì
                            >mého povolení k inkasu. Zrušit pøíkaz nemùžu, já ho nezadávám, ale
                            >povolení k inkasu zrušit mùžu. To je ale asi jasné.
                            >
                            >V kontextu toho seznamu platebních zpùsobù to zní, jako kdyby to byly
                            >nìjaké naøízené inkasní platby (tøeba v pøípadì exekuce z úètu) - ty
                            >pak zrušit nemùžu.
                            >
                            >Pavel
                            >
                            >--- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, "Sabina Králová" <sabina.kralova@...>
                            >wrote:
                            >>
                            >> Ahoj Martine,
                            >>
                            >> diky. Mozna by to mohlo byt ono. Pokud mi zakaznik neposle
                            >vysvetleni, tak to pouziju s poznamkou pod carou.
                            >> Sabina
                            >> -------- Původní zpráva -------
                            >> Od: Martin Janda <mjanda@...>
                            >> Komu: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
                            >> Předmět: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
                            >> Datum: 18.03.2013 16:25
                            >> ---------------------------------------
                            >> >
                            >> > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://wwww3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
                            >> >
                            >> > Â
                            >> >
                            >> > Jsem, podivej:
                            >> >
                            >> > https://www.google.com/search?q=%22p%C5%99%C3%ADkaz+k+inkasu%22&ie=UTF-8
                            >> >
                            >> > Martin
                            >> >
                            >> > Dne 18.3.2013 12:50, Pilucha, Jiri napsal(a):
                            >> >
                            >> >>
                            >> >
                            >> >> martine jses si jist, ze nezamenujes prikaz k uhrade a souhlas s
                            >inkasem?
                            >> >
                            >> >>
                            >> >
                            >> >>
                            >> >
                            >> >> From: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
                            >> >
                            >> >> [mailto: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
                            >> >
                            >> >> <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Martin Janda
                            >> >
                            >> >> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:39 PM
                            >> >
                            >> >> To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
                            >> >
                            >> >> Subject: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
                            >> >
                            >> >>
                            >> >
                            >> >>
                            >> >
                            >> >>
                            >> >
                            >> >> Mozna existuje rozdil mezi svolenim k inkasu a prikazem k inkasu?
                            >Mne
                            >> >
                            >> >> vzdycky pripadalo, ze je to totez, ale treba se pletu.
                            >> >
                            >> >>
                            >> >
                            >> >> Martin
                            >> >
                            >> >>
                            >> >
                            >> >> Dne 18.3.2013 12:36, Sabina Králová napsal(a):
                            >> >
                            >> >> >
                            >> >
                            >> >> > Anglictina toho textu je dost hrozna. Jedna se o vycet
                            >povolenych
                            >> >> > platebnich metod:
                            >> >> >
                            >> >> > 2. Methods of payment
                            >> >> > Following an analysis of existing freedom of action in the
                            >light of
                            >> >> > the points listed the following configuration options primarily
                            >can be
                            >> >> > considered (listed by length of time interval until receipt of
                            >payment
                            >> >> > or maturity date):
                            >> >> > · payment in advance or down-payment (prior to delivery)
                            >> >> > · credit card payment (at time of order or on delivery)
                            >> >> > · (cash) payment upon delivery
                            >> >> > · payment (on delivery)
                            >> >> > · debit note (on delivery) â€" in many legal systems a
                            >distinction must
                            >> >> > be drawn here between a direct debit authority and a direct
                            >withdrawal
                            >> >> > order: the advantage of a direct withdrawal order from the
                            >creditor’s
                            >> >> > standpoint is that the debtor has no right of cancellation,
                            >whereas
                            >> >> > payments made by means of an direct debit authority may be
                            >cancelled
                            >> >> > by the debtor, hence payments by direct debit are not
                            >completely
                            >> >> > guaranteed in law
                            >> >> > · payment by draft (on delivery) â€" in this regard it should
                            >be ensured
                            >> >> > that only banker’s drafts are accepted which result in an
                            >immediate
                            >> >> > credit entry to the vendor’s bank account (only a
                            >bank-certified
                            >> >> > cheque ensures actually collection of the claim as in addition
                            >to the
                            >> >> > issuer the latter’s bank is also liable for payment of the
                            >amount of
                            >> >> > the cheque)
                            >> >> > · payment on straightforward account (after delivery)
                            >> >> > · payment on account with a specified payment date (after
                            >delivery).
                            >> >> > Diky
                            >> >> > Sabina
                            >> >> > -------- Původní zpráva -------
                            >> >> > Od: Matej Klimes < mklimes@...
                            >> >> <mailto:mklimes%40volny.cz><mailto:mklimes%40volny.cz>
                            >> >> <mailto:mklimes%40volny.cz>>
                            >> >> > Komu: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
                            >> >>
                            ><mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
                            >
                            >> >> <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>,
                            >> >> > Předmět: Re[2]: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect
                            >debit
                            >> >> > Datum: 18.03.2013 12:27
                            >> >> > ---------------------------------------
                            >> >> > >
                            >> >> > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
                            >> >> > " http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
                            >> >> > >
                            >> >> > >
                            >> >> > >
                            >> >> > > Rika se tomu inkaso Romano, bud si jej clovek zada rucne,
                            >nebo bance
                            >> >> > >
                            >> >> > > 'povoli' inkaso na urcity ucet, telefonnimu operatortovi
                            >atd..
                            >> >> > >
                            >> >> > > Sabino me ty dva terminy pripadaji dost podobne, rozdil je
                            >mezi
                            >> >> debit a
                            >> >> > >
                            >> >> > > withdrawal a mezi authority (vice jako povoleni, tedy to
                            >inkaso) a
                            >> >> > >
                            >> >> > > order (konkretni prikaz)... ale cele je to nejake divne, asi
                            >to
                            >> >> nebude
                            >> >> > >
                            >> >> > > autenticka anglictina, ze?
                            >> >> > >
                            >> >> > > Jestli jde skutecne o platbu za zbozi v el obchode, tak nam
                            >musis
                            >> >> rick
                            >> >> > >
                            >> >> > > vice podrobnosti/kontextu, pokud mas (jak to probiha, cim to
                            >zarucuje
                            >> >> > >
                            >> >> > > platbu) a pak mozna neco vymyslime.. Nenapada me moc, jak by
                            >platba v
                            >> >> > >
                            >> >> > > el. obchode mela probihat jako inkaso, leda ze by slo o
                            >pravidelny
                            >> >> > >
                            >> >> > > nakup..
                            >> >> > >
                            >> >> > > M
                            >> >> > >
                            >> >> > > ------ Original Message ------
                            >> >> > >
                            >> >> > > From: "Romana" < czechlist@...
                            >> >>
                            ><mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                            >> >> > <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>>
                            >> >> > >
                            >> >> > > To: czechlist@...
                            >> >>
                            ><mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                            >> >> <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                            >> >> > >
                            >> >> > > Sent: 18.3.2013 12:04:43
                            >> >> > >
                            >> >> > > Subject: Re: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect
                            >debit
                            >> >> > >
                            >> >> > >> Nevim, jak se tomu rika cesky, ale neni to nic soudniho. Je
                            >to
                            >> >> > >
                            >> >> > >>proste, ze normalni clovek da sve bance povoleni, ze kdyz
                            >urcita
                            >> >> treti
                            >> >> > >
                            >> >> > >>strana si chce stahnout penize z jejiho uctu, tak to banka ma
                            >> >> umoznit.
                            >> >> > >
                            >> >> > >>To se tady i v Evrope bezne dela napriklad pro mesicni platby
                            >pro
                            >> >> > >
                            >> >> > >>telefon, energii, vodu atd. Jak se tomu rika cesky?
                            >> >> > >
                            >> >> > >>
                            >> >> > >
                            >> >> > >>Romana z Australie
                            >> >> > >>
                            >> >> > >>-----Original Message-----
                            >> >> > >>From: czechlist-bounces@...
                            >> >>
                            ><mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org>
                            >
                            >> >>
                            >> >> > <mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org> [mailto:
                            >> >> > czechlist-bounces@...
                            >> >>
                            ><mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org>
                            >
                            >> >>
                            >> >> > <mailto:czechlist-bounces%40czechlist.org>] On Behalf Of
                            >> >> > sabina.kralova@...
                            >> >>
                            ><mailto:sabina.kralova%40tiscali.cz><mailto:sabina.kralova%40tiscali.cz>
                            >
                            >> >> <mailto:sabina.kralova%40tiscali.cz>
                            >> >> > >>Sent: Monday, 18 March 2013 9:09 PM
                            >> >> > >>To: czechlist@...
                            >> >>
                            ><mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                            >> >> <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                            >> >> > >>Subject: [Czechlist] direct withdrawal order x deirect debit
                            >> >> > >>
                            >> >> > >>Dobry den,
                            >> >> > >>narazila jsem v prekladu na terminy "direct debit authority"
                            >a
                            >> >> "direct
                            >> >> > >>withdrawal order" Predpokladam, ze direct debit authority je
                            >souhlas
                            >> >> > >>s primym inkasem, bohuzel se mi absolutne nedari zjistit
                            >cesky termin
                            >> >> > >>pro "direct withdrawal order"? Jedine, co vim je, ze dluznik
                            >nema
                            >> >> > >>pravo platbu zrusit. Predem dekuji za radu Sabina
                            >> >> > >>
                            >> >> > >>_______________________________________________
                            >> >> > >>Czechlist mailing list
                            >> >> > >> Czechlist@...
                            >> >>
                            ><mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                            >> >> <mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                            >> >> > >> http://www.czechlist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/czechlist
                            >> >> > >>
                            >> >> > >>_______________________________________________
                            >> >> > >>Czechlist mailing list
                            >> >> > >> Czechlist@...
                            >> >>
                            ><mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org><mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                            >> >> <mailto:Czechlist%40czechlist.org>
                            >> >> > >> http://www.czechlist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/czechlist
                            >> >> > >>
                            >> >> > >
                            >> >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                            >> >> > >
                            >> >> > >
                            >> >> > >
                            >> >> >
                            >> >> >
                            >> >>
                            >> >>
                            >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                            >> >>
                            >> >>
                            >> >
                            >> >
                            >> >
                            >>
                            >
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