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  • Jirka Bolech
    Yeah. I was one foot through the doorway leaving my house when I replied while I hadn t managed to read the entire post. I couldn t resist to fire off my
    Message 1 of 14 , Mar 13, 2013
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      Yeah. I was one foot through the doorway leaving my house when I replied
      while I hadn't managed to read the entire post. I couldn't resist to
      fire off my immediate idea from a song by Alice Cooper.

      > Only at a circus or carnival/fair....
      >
      > >
      > > side show
      >

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    • Melvyn
      I think you were highly inspired. The main attraction and side shows paradigm seems to be applied informally and metaphorically in all kinds of situations
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        I think you were highly inspired. The "main attraction" and "side shows" paradigm seems to be applied informally and metaphorically in all kinds of situations where people get together: political party conferences, trade fairs, rock concerts, you name it. Perhaps very occasionally you might need to use inverted commas, but normally the meaning is as clear as a slap in the face. Doprovodny program. :-)

        BR

        Melvyn

        --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, Jirka Bolech <jirka@...> wrote:
        >
        > Yeah. I was one foot through the doorway leaving my house when I replied
        > while I hadn't managed to read the entire post. I couldn't resist to
        > fire off my immediate idea from a song by Alice Cooper.
        >
        > > Only at a circus or carnival/fair....
        > >
        > > >
        > > > side show
      • James Kirchner
        I don t know about the British, but to Americans a side show is something like a freak show or some other display of oddities at a circus or carnival. Jamie
        Message 3 of 14 , Mar 13, 2013
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          I don't know about the British, but to Americans a side show is something like a freak show or some other display of oddities at a circus or carnival.

          Jamie

          On Mar 13, 2013, at 8:13 AM, Jirka Bolech wrote:

          > side show
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        • James Kirchner
          But even when the meaning is clear, the relationship to a circus or carnival side show is still definitely there. Jamie ...
          Message 4 of 14 , Mar 13, 2013
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            But even when the meaning is clear, the relationship to a circus or carnival side show is still definitely there.

            Jamie

            On Mar 13, 2013, at 2:44 PM, Melvyn wrote:

            > I think you were highly inspired. The "main attraction" and "side shows" paradigm seems to be applied informally and metaphorically in all kinds of situations where people get together: political party conferences, trade fairs, rock concerts, you name it. Perhaps very occasionally you might need to use inverted commas, but normally the meaning is as clear as a slap in the face. Doprovodny program. :-)
            >
            > BR
            >
            > Melvyn
            >
            > --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, Jirka Bolech <jirka@...> wrote:
            >>
            >> Yeah. I was one foot through the doorway leaving my house when I replied
            >> while I hadn't managed to read the entire post. I couldn't resist to
            >> fire off my immediate idea from a song by Alice Cooper.
            >>
            >>> Only at a circus or carnival/fair....
            >>>
            >>>>
            >>>> side show
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          • Melvyn
            True, these connotations can be negative (often it is primarily the idea of marginality that is being put over), but the carnival image can also be chosen to
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              True, these connotations can be negative (often it is primarily the idea of marginality that is being put over), but the carnival image can also be chosen to suggest colour, variety and "all the fun of the fair" IMO.

              Check out village fete/fair sideshows/side shows on Google images and you will not find a single bearded lady, though you will find some early Beatles.

              BR

              Melvyn





              --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, James Kirchner <czechlist@...> wrote:
              >
              > But even when the meaning is clear, the relationship to a circus or carnival side show is still definitely there.
              >
              > Jamie
              >
              > On Mar 13, 2013, at 2:44 PM, Melvyn wrote:
              >
              > > I think you were highly inspired. The "main attraction" and "side shows" paradigm seems to be applied informally and metaphorically in all kinds of situations where people get together: political party conferences, trade fairs, rock concerts, you name it. Perhaps very occasionally you might need to use inverted commas, but normally the meaning is as clear as a slap in the face. Doprovodny program. :-)
              > >
              > > BR
              > >
              > > Melvyn
              > >
              > > --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, Jirka Bolech <jirka@> wrote:
              > >>
              > >> Yeah. I was one foot through the doorway leaving my house when I replied
              > >> while I hadn't managed to read the entire post. I couldn't resist to
              > >> fire off my immediate idea from a song by Alice Cooper.
              > >>
              > >>> Only at a circus or carnival/fair....
              > >>>
              > >>>>
              > >>>> side show
              > >
              > >
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            • James Kirchner
              True. ... _______________________________________________ Czechlist mailing list Czechlist@czechlist.org
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                True.

                On Mar 13, 2013, at 4:54 PM, Melvyn wrote:

                > True, these connotations can be negative (often it is primarily the idea of marginality that is being put over), but the carnival image can also be chosen to suggest colour, variety and "all the fun of the fair" IMO.
                >
                > Check out village fete/fair sideshows/side shows on Google images and you will not find a single bearded lady, though you will find some early Beatles.
                >
                > BR
                >
                > Melvyn
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, James Kirchner <czechlist@...> wrote:
                >>
                >> But even when the meaning is clear, the relationship to a circus or carnival side show is still definitely there.
                >>
                >> Jamie
                >>
                >> On Mar 13, 2013, at 2:44 PM, Melvyn wrote:
                >>
                >>> I think you were highly inspired. The "main attraction" and "side shows" paradigm seems to be applied informally and metaphorically in all kinds of situations where people get together: political party conferences, trade fairs, rock concerts, you name it. Perhaps very occasionally you might need to use inverted commas, but normally the meaning is as clear as a slap in the face. Doprovodny program. :-)
                >>>
                >>> BR
                >>>
                >>> Melvyn
                >>>
                >>> --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, Jirka Bolech <jirka@> wrote:
                >>>>
                >>>> Yeah. I was one foot through the doorway leaving my house when I replied
                >>>> while I hadn't managed to read the entire post. I couldn't resist to
                >>>> fire off my immediate idea from a song by Alice Cooper.
                >>>>
                >>>>> Only at a circus or carnival/fair....
                >>>>>
                >>>>>>
                >>>>>> side show
                >>>
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              • Melvyn
                I think this would work nicely in the appropriate contexts. Or fringe events. BR Melvyn
                Message 7 of 14 , Mar 13, 2013
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                  I think this would work nicely in the appropriate contexts.

                  Or fringe events.

                  BR

                  Melvyn

                  --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, "Pilucha, Jiri" <jiri.pilucha@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > Fringe meetings?
                  > I've come across:
                  > "...numerous fringe meetings held during the conference..."
                  > or similarly "The Museum Association has invited subject specialists to hold fringe meetings at this year's conference and exibition in Edinburgh
                  > Or: "...arrangements for Fringe meetings and Displays during a meeting of the General Synod"
                  > Or this link:
                  > http://cotannualconference.org.uk/Fringe-meetings
                  >
                  > Jiri
                  >
                • Martin Janda
                  Well... Depends tocontext. Doprovodny program can be two different things: satellite workshops running pre, post - or simultaneously with the main conference,
                  Message 8 of 14 , Mar 15, 2013
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                    Well... Depends tocontext. Doprovodny program can be two different
                    things: satellite workshops running pre, post - or simultaneously with
                    the main conference, but also a festive dinner, a sightseeing tour for
                    spouses or a farewell party. You would not call that a meeting...

                    Martin


                    Dne 13.3.2013 22:05, Melvyn napsal(a):
                    >
                    > I think this would work nicely in the appropriate contexts.
                    >
                    > Or fringe events.
                    >
                    > BR
                    >
                    > Melvyn
                    >
                    > --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>,
                    > "Pilucha, Jiri" <jiri.pilucha@...> wrote:
                    > >
                    > > Fringe meetings?
                    > > I've come across:
                    > > "...numerous fringe meetings held during the conference..."
                    > > or similarly "The Museum Association has invited subject specialists
                    > to hold fringe meetings at this year's conference and exibition in
                    > Edinburgh
                    > > Or: "...arrangements for Fringe meetings and Displays during a
                    > meeting of the General Synod"
                    > > Or this link:
                    > > http://cotannualconference.org.uk/Fringe-meetings
                    > >
                    > > Jiri
                    > >
                    >
                    >
                  • Melvyn
                    ... That is one reason I mentioned appropriate context, but hey, satellite is definitely a neat option here IMHO. I see satellite workshops, events,
                    Message 9 of 14 , Mar 15, 2013
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                      --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, Martin Janda <mjanda@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > Well... Depends tocontext. Doprovodny program can be two different
                      > things: satellite workshops running pre, post - or simultaneously with
                      > the main conference, but also a festive dinner, a sightseeing tour for
                      > spouses or a farewell party. You would not call that a meeting...

                      That is one reason I mentioned appropriate context, but hey, "satellite" is definitely a neat option here IMHO. I see satellite workshops, events, activities, performances etc are sometimes contrasted with the "main event". Looks like standard jargon in the world of poker.

                      BR

                      Melvyn


                      >
                      > Dne 13.3.2013 22:05, Melvyn napsal(a):
                      > >
                      > > I think this would work nicely in the appropriate contexts.
                      > >
                      > > Or fringe events.
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