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  • jenuwefa
    Only at a circus or carnival/fair....
    Message 1 of 14 , Mar 13, 2013
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      Only at a circus or carnival/fair....

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    • Pilucha, Jiri
      Fringe meetings? I ve come across: ...numerous fringe meetings held during the conference... or similarly The Museum Association has invited subject
      Message 2 of 14 , Mar 13, 2013
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        Fringe meetings?
        I've come across:
        "...numerous fringe meetings held during the conference..."
        or similarly "The Museum Association has invited subject specialists to hold fringe meetings at this year's conference and exibition in Edinburgh
        Or: "...arrangements for Fringe meetings and Displays during a meeting of the General Synod"
        Or this link:
        http://cotannualconference.org.uk/Fringe-meetings

        Jiri




        From: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Czechlist@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Melvyn
        Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 12:59 PM
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        Subject: [Czechlist] FB: Doprovodny program



        Some conclusions arrived at by our Facebook contingent (context: a list of possible volunteer activities):

        Accompanying events
        Optional events/activities
        Additional activities...

        "Programme" aa translation of Czech "program" can be fraught with difficulties, of course:
        http://nlp.fi.muni.cz/projekty/lexdb/czeng.cgi?direct=193

        but I think in some situations these might work:
        Side programme
        Supporting programme
        Support programme

        BR

        Melvyn



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      • Melvyn
        OK, but I reckon it is sometimes used figuratively in other contexts, e.g. check out conference sideshows . Melvyn
        Message 3 of 14 , Mar 13, 2013
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          OK, but I reckon it is sometimes used figuratively in other contexts, e.g. check out "conference sideshows".

          Melvyn

          --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, jenuwefa <no_reply@...> wrote:
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          > Only at a circus or carnival/fair....
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          > --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, Jirka Bolech <czechlist@> wrote:
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          > > side show
        • Jirka Bolech
          Yeah. I was one foot through the doorway leaving my house when I replied while I hadn t managed to read the entire post. I couldn t resist to fire off my
          Message 4 of 14 , Mar 13, 2013
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            Yeah. I was one foot through the doorway leaving my house when I replied
            while I hadn't managed to read the entire post. I couldn't resist to
            fire off my immediate idea from a song by Alice Cooper.

            > Only at a circus or carnival/fair....
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            > >
            > > side show
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          • Melvyn
            I think you were highly inspired. The main attraction and side shows paradigm seems to be applied informally and metaphorically in all kinds of situations
            Message 5 of 14 , Mar 13, 2013
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              I think you were highly inspired. The "main attraction" and "side shows" paradigm seems to be applied informally and metaphorically in all kinds of situations where people get together: political party conferences, trade fairs, rock concerts, you name it. Perhaps very occasionally you might need to use inverted commas, but normally the meaning is as clear as a slap in the face. Doprovodny program. :-)

              BR

              Melvyn

              --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, Jirka Bolech <jirka@...> wrote:
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              > Yeah. I was one foot through the doorway leaving my house when I replied
              > while I hadn't managed to read the entire post. I couldn't resist to
              > fire off my immediate idea from a song by Alice Cooper.
              >
              > > Only at a circus or carnival/fair....
              > >
              > > >
              > > > side show
            • James Kirchner
              I don t know about the British, but to Americans a side show is something like a freak show or some other display of oddities at a circus or carnival. Jamie
              Message 6 of 14 , Mar 13, 2013
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                I don't know about the British, but to Americans a side show is something like a freak show or some other display of oddities at a circus or carnival.

                Jamie

                On Mar 13, 2013, at 8:13 AM, Jirka Bolech wrote:

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              • James Kirchner
                But even when the meaning is clear, the relationship to a circus or carnival side show is still definitely there. Jamie ...
                Message 7 of 14 , Mar 13, 2013
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                  But even when the meaning is clear, the relationship to a circus or carnival side show is still definitely there.

                  Jamie

                  On Mar 13, 2013, at 2:44 PM, Melvyn wrote:

                  > I think you were highly inspired. The "main attraction" and "side shows" paradigm seems to be applied informally and metaphorically in all kinds of situations where people get together: political party conferences, trade fairs, rock concerts, you name it. Perhaps very occasionally you might need to use inverted commas, but normally the meaning is as clear as a slap in the face. Doprovodny program. :-)
                  >
                  > BR
                  >
                  > Melvyn
                  >
                  > --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, Jirka Bolech <jirka@...> wrote:
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                  >> Yeah. I was one foot through the doorway leaving my house when I replied
                  >> while I hadn't managed to read the entire post. I couldn't resist to
                  >> fire off my immediate idea from a song by Alice Cooper.
                  >>
                  >>> Only at a circus or carnival/fair....
                  >>>
                  >>>>
                  >>>> side show
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                • Melvyn
                  True, these connotations can be negative (often it is primarily the idea of marginality that is being put over), but the carnival image can also be chosen to
                  Message 8 of 14 , Mar 13, 2013
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                    True, these connotations can be negative (often it is primarily the idea of marginality that is being put over), but the carnival image can also be chosen to suggest colour, variety and "all the fun of the fair" IMO.

                    Check out village fete/fair sideshows/side shows on Google images and you will not find a single bearded lady, though you will find some early Beatles.

                    BR

                    Melvyn





                    --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, James Kirchner <czechlist@...> wrote:
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                    > But even when the meaning is clear, the relationship to a circus or carnival side show is still definitely there.
                    >
                    > Jamie
                    >
                    > On Mar 13, 2013, at 2:44 PM, Melvyn wrote:
                    >
                    > > I think you were highly inspired. The "main attraction" and "side shows" paradigm seems to be applied informally and metaphorically in all kinds of situations where people get together: political party conferences, trade fairs, rock concerts, you name it. Perhaps very occasionally you might need to use inverted commas, but normally the meaning is as clear as a slap in the face. Doprovodny program. :-)
                    > >
                    > > BR
                    > >
                    > > Melvyn
                    > >
                    > > --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, Jirka Bolech <jirka@> wrote:
                    > >>
                    > >> Yeah. I was one foot through the doorway leaving my house when I replied
                    > >> while I hadn't managed to read the entire post. I couldn't resist to
                    > >> fire off my immediate idea from a song by Alice Cooper.
                    > >>
                    > >>> Only at a circus or carnival/fair....
                    > >>>
                    > >>>>
                    > >>>> side show
                    > >
                    > >
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                  • James Kirchner
                    True. ... _______________________________________________ Czechlist mailing list Czechlist@czechlist.org
                    Message 9 of 14 , Mar 13, 2013
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                      True.

                      On Mar 13, 2013, at 4:54 PM, Melvyn wrote:

                      > True, these connotations can be negative (often it is primarily the idea of marginality that is being put over), but the carnival image can also be chosen to suggest colour, variety and "all the fun of the fair" IMO.
                      >
                      > Check out village fete/fair sideshows/side shows on Google images and you will not find a single bearded lady, though you will find some early Beatles.
                      >
                      > BR
                      >
                      > Melvyn
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                      >
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      > --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, James Kirchner <czechlist@...> wrote:
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                      >> But even when the meaning is clear, the relationship to a circus or carnival side show is still definitely there.
                      >>
                      >> Jamie
                      >>
                      >> On Mar 13, 2013, at 2:44 PM, Melvyn wrote:
                      >>
                      >>> I think you were highly inspired. The "main attraction" and "side shows" paradigm seems to be applied informally and metaphorically in all kinds of situations where people get together: political party conferences, trade fairs, rock concerts, you name it. Perhaps very occasionally you might need to use inverted commas, but normally the meaning is as clear as a slap in the face. Doprovodny program. :-)
                      >>>
                      >>> BR
                      >>>
                      >>> Melvyn
                      >>>
                      >>> --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, Jirka Bolech <jirka@> wrote:
                      >>>>
                      >>>> Yeah. I was one foot through the doorway leaving my house when I replied
                      >>>> while I hadn't managed to read the entire post. I couldn't resist to
                      >>>> fire off my immediate idea from a song by Alice Cooper.
                      >>>>
                      >>>>> Only at a circus or carnival/fair....
                      >>>>>
                      >>>>>>
                      >>>>>> side show
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                    • Melvyn
                      I think this would work nicely in the appropriate contexts. Or fringe events. BR Melvyn
                      Message 10 of 14 , Mar 13, 2013
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                        I think this would work nicely in the appropriate contexts.

                        Or fringe events.

                        BR

                        Melvyn

                        --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, "Pilucha, Jiri" <jiri.pilucha@...> wrote:
                        >
                        > Fringe meetings?
                        > I've come across:
                        > "...numerous fringe meetings held during the conference..."
                        > or similarly "The Museum Association has invited subject specialists to hold fringe meetings at this year's conference and exibition in Edinburgh
                        > Or: "...arrangements for Fringe meetings and Displays during a meeting of the General Synod"
                        > Or this link:
                        > http://cotannualconference.org.uk/Fringe-meetings
                        >
                        > Jiri
                        >
                      • Martin Janda
                        Well... Depends tocontext. Doprovodny program can be two different things: satellite workshops running pre, post - or simultaneously with the main conference,
                        Message 11 of 14 , Mar 15, 2013
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                          Well... Depends tocontext. Doprovodny program can be two different
                          things: satellite workshops running pre, post - or simultaneously with
                          the main conference, but also a festive dinner, a sightseeing tour for
                          spouses or a farewell party. You would not call that a meeting...

                          Martin


                          Dne 13.3.2013 22:05, Melvyn napsal(a):
                          >
                          > I think this would work nicely in the appropriate contexts.
                          >
                          > Or fringe events.
                          >
                          > BR
                          >
                          > Melvyn
                          >
                          > --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>,
                          > "Pilucha, Jiri" <jiri.pilucha@...> wrote:
                          > >
                          > > Fringe meetings?
                          > > I've come across:
                          > > "...numerous fringe meetings held during the conference..."
                          > > or similarly "The Museum Association has invited subject specialists
                          > to hold fringe meetings at this year's conference and exibition in
                          > Edinburgh
                          > > Or: "...arrangements for Fringe meetings and Displays during a
                          > meeting of the General Synod"
                          > > Or this link:
                          > > http://cotannualconference.org.uk/Fringe-meetings
                          > >
                          > > Jiri
                          > >
                          >
                          >
                        • Melvyn
                          ... That is one reason I mentioned appropriate context, but hey, satellite is definitely a neat option here IMHO. I see satellite workshops, events,
                          Message 12 of 14 , Mar 15, 2013
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                            --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, Martin Janda <mjanda@...> wrote:
                            >
                            > Well... Depends tocontext. Doprovodny program can be two different
                            > things: satellite workshops running pre, post - or simultaneously with
                            > the main conference, but also a festive dinner, a sightseeing tour for
                            > spouses or a farewell party. You would not call that a meeting...

                            That is one reason I mentioned appropriate context, but hey, "satellite" is definitely a neat option here IMHO. I see satellite workshops, events, activities, performances etc are sometimes contrasted with the "main event". Looks like standard jargon in the world of poker.

                            BR

                            Melvyn


                            >
                            > Dne 13.3.2013 22:05, Melvyn napsal(a):
                            > >
                            > > I think this would work nicely in the appropriate contexts.
                            > >
                            > > Or fringe events.
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