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Re: [Czechlist] Neodolatelna nabidka

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  • Jakub Skrebsky
    jen pro srovnani - zivotni naklady v Severnim Irsku jídlo: tezko se srovnava, ale mozna pomuze tato tabulka (nekolik let stara, ale vicemene se nic nezmenilo)
    Message 1 of 14 , Nov 15, 2012
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      jen pro srovnani - zivotni naklady v Severnim Irsku
      jídlo: tezko se srovnava, ale mozna pomuze tato tabulka (nekolik let stara, ale vicemene se nic nezmenilo) http://www.bedekr.cz/vybirate-dovolenou-nabizime-vam-prehled-cen-jidla-v-ruznych-zemich.
      Obleceni - mirne levnejsi nez v CR (krome modnich znacek).
      bydleni: 50m2 byt v klidne ctvrti maleho mesta - najem 500 GBP mesicne, na venkove 400 GBP, ve vetsich mestech od 600 GBP. Cena energii priblizne stejna jako v CR, ale Britove moc nepouzivaji tepelnou izolaci. Můj ucet za plynove topeni je asi 1300 GBP rocne.
      Telefon+internet od 30 GBP mesicne
      Mobil od 20 GBP mesicne
      Pohonne hmoty: aktualne 1.45 - 1.48 GBP za litr v Severnim Irsku. Anglie je mirne levnejsi.
      Povinne ruceni na auto: cerstvy ridic nejmene 3000 GBP rocne, babicka s vozem Honda Jazz kolem 500 GBP rocne. Ja platim 800 rocne.
      Skolka pro jedno dite: min. 30 GBP denne, pouze lidi s prijmem pod zivotnim minimem maji slevu.
      Skolne na zakladnich a strednich skolach se neplati, na vysoke od 2500 GBP rocne.
      Minimalni mzda (pokladni, delnik, uklizecka, atd) je 6,19 na hodinu, asi 5 GBP cisteho.
      Povinne vydaje zivnostnika : dan 20% ze zisku, nezdanitelne minimum asi 7000 GBP, nakladovy pausal neexistuje. Zdrav/socialni odvody asi 600 + 8% ze zisku, celkem tedy kolem 29%ze zisku do kasy Jejiho Velicenstva.

      Jakub




      On 15 Nov 2012, at 12:50, Tomas Mosler wrote:

      > Just a little follow-up on how the living costs in the "West" are assumably dramatically higher than in the Czech Republic, thus the employees/freelancers there need to earn more than people in the Czech Repbulic (or in other words, Czechs can live/survive a bit easier with lower nominal income).
      >
      > "I tak ale muze prumerne vydelavajici Nemec vest vcelku slusny zivot. Ze srovnani cen potravin a spotrebniho zbozi mezi Nemeckem a Ceskem vyplyva, ze jsou priblizne stejne. Nektere druhy potravin, odevy, obuv ci elektronika jsou ve Spolkove republice dokonce levnejsi, a to az o jednu ctvrtinu.
      >
      > Totez plati pro bydleni. Najem jednoho metru ctverecniho obytne plochy bytu ve starsim dome po rekonstrukci warm (po zapocitani nakladu na vytapeni) cini osm az deset eur. Za byt o plose padesati metru ctverecnich tak Nemci v prumeru zaplati 450 eur, a tedy priblizne jednu ctvrtinu sve ciste mesicni mzdy."
      >
      > http://aktualne.centrum.cz/zahranici/evropa/clanek.phtml?id=760140
      >
      > Tomas
      >
      > > In a message dated 11/2/2012 2:53:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
      > > hgeige@... writes:
      > >
      > >
      > > What was relevant to me was that while I could "sort of" support myself
      > > working for Czech agencies in CR, I could not support myself working for
      > > Czech
      > > agencies from the U.S., due to different buying power.
      > >
      > > Of course a translations totaling CZK 15 000 will pay my rent (I assume)
      > > in Prague, but this amount will not pay my rent in New York. That is all I
      > > meant, and sorry if I haven't expressed myself clearly.
      > >
      > > What he/she refuses or not was not the issue I was putting forward.
      > > Thanks, Tomas
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > In a message dated 11/2/2012 2:44:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
      > > _tomas.mosler@..._ (mailto:tomas.mosler@...) writes:
      > >
      > > > I maintain that a Czech translator living abroad will not survive while
      > > > working exclusively for Czech agencies, while a Czech translator living
      > > in CR
      > > > and working exclusively for Czech agencies could, I mean, not very well,
      > > but
      > > > pays his rent, or not?
      > >
      > > Perhaps, but how relevant is that? I mean, when such a Czech translator
      > > gets paid xxxxx CZK a month and thinks, fine, this pays my rent, is he
      > > bound
      > > to politely refuse any better rates because he could - what horror - earn
      > > some money extra? ;) (Or alternatively getting the same month income, but
      > > having more free time.)
      > >
      > > Besides that, with the same logic Czech (or Eastern Europe) producers
      > > should sell their products in Czech stores for 1/4 - 1/2 price (because it
      > > should be sufficient to cover local rents) compared to Western prices of
      > > the
      > > same product distributed over there, but somehow that is often not
      > > happenning.
      > >
      > > I mean, if Polish KitKat Chunky can cost 12 CZK / EUR 0.50 and Western
      > > produced ( = better quality) KK Chunky costs EUR 0.60, or if I can buy a
      > > bun
      > > (roll) in Germany for approx. EUR 0.10 and here for the same price,
      > > something is wrong with the "pay rent scheme".
      > >
      > > Tomas
      >
      >



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