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  • Hana Jarolímová
    Ahoj, mam tady kanadsky Response Plan, kde pisou, ze plati pro federal government agencies, local government, First Nations and water licensees .
    Message 1 of 8 , May 31, 2011
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      Ahoj, mam tady kanadsky Response Plan, kde pisou, ze plati pro "federal
      government agencies, local government, First Nations and water licensees".

      Predpokladam, ze "First Nations" jsou puvodni obyvatele. Pouziva se pro
      to v cestiine nejaky zavedeny vyraz?

      Diky

      H
    • Melvyn
      ... http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prvn%C3%AD_n%C3%A1rody Prvni narody is not an everyday Czech expression perhaps, but then First Nations might not always
      Message 2 of 8 , Jun 6, 2011
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        --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, Hana Jarolímová <jarolimo@...> wrote:
        > Predpokladam, ze "First Nations" jsou puvodni obyvatele. Pouziva se pro to v cestiine nejaky zavedeny vyraz?

        http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prvn%C3%AD_n%C3%A1rody

        "Prvni narody" is not an everyday Czech expression perhaps, but then "First Nations" might not always be immediately understood in the English-speaking world outside Canada.

        BR

        M.
      • Hana Jarolímová
        Dekuji, Melvyne, na ceske Wikipedii jsem nehledala... Nakonec jsem pouzila termin oficialni zastupci puvodnich obyvatel zeme H ... [Non-text portions of this
        Message 3 of 8 , Jun 6, 2011
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          Dekuji, Melvyne, na ceske Wikipedii jsem nehledala...
          Nakonec jsem pouzila termin "oficialni zastupci puvodnich obyvatel zeme"
          H

          Melvyn wrote:

          >--- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, Hana Jarolímová <jarolimo@...> wrote:
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          >>Predpokladam, ze "First Nations" jsou puvodni obyvatele. Pouziva se pro to v cestiine nejaky zavedeny vyraz?
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          >http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prvn%C3%AD_n%C3%A1rody
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          >"Prvni narody" is not an everyday Czech expression perhaps, but then "First Nations" might not always be immediately understood in the English-speaking world outside Canada.
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          >BR
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          >M.
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        • James Kirchner
          The problem is that certain Canadian provinces have been designated as provinces run by the First Nations who inhabit them. This means that First Nations does
          Message 4 of 8 , Jun 6, 2011
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            The problem is that certain Canadian provinces have been designated as provinces run by the First Nations who inhabit them. This means that First Nations does not mean only their oficialni zastupce.

            "First Nations" is just a way of saying "Indians and Eskimos" that is less awkward and politically loaded than the US term "Native American".

            Jamie

            On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:21 AM, Hana Jarol�mov� wrote:

            > Dekuji, Melvyne, na ceske Wikipedii jsem nehledala...
            > Nakonec jsem pouzila termin "oficialni zastupci puvodnich obyvatel zeme"
            > H
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            > Melvyn wrote:
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            > >--- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, Hana Jarol�mov� <jarolimo@...> wrote:
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            > >>Predpokladam, ze "First Nations" jsou puvodni obyvatele. Pouziva se pro to v cestiine nejaky zavedeny vyraz?
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            > >http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prvn%C3%AD_n%C3%A1rody
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            > >"Prvni narody" is not an everyday Czech expression perhaps, but then "First Nations" might not always be immediately understood in the English-speaking world outside Canada.
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            > >BR
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            > >M.
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          • Melvyn
            ... Careful. Seems that officially not all aboriginal peoples are included: First Nations is a term of ethnicity that refers to the aboriginal peoples in
            Message 5 of 8 , Jun 6, 2011
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              --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, James Kirchner <jpklists@...> wrote:

              > "First Nations" is just a way of saying "Indians and Eskimos" that is less awkward and politically loaded than the US term "Native American".

              Careful. Seems that officially not all "aboriginal peoples" are included:

              First Nations is a term of ethnicity that refers to the aboriginal peoples in Canada who are neither Inuit nor Métis.

              Collectively, First Nations, Inuit and Métis peoples constitute aboriginal peoples in Canada, indigenous peoples of the Americas or first peoples.

              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_nations

              Probably best to stick to the calque translation.

              BR

              M.
            • James Kirchner
              So it doesn t mean Eskimos and Indians, it just means Indians. :-) JK ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
              Message 6 of 8 , Jun 6, 2011
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                So it doesn't mean Eskimos and Indians, it just means Indians. :-)

                JK

                On Jun 6, 2011, at 8:27 AM, Melvyn wrote:

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                > --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, James Kirchner <jpklists@...> wrote:
                >
                > > "First Nations" is just a way of saying "Indians and Eskimos" that is less awkward and politically loaded than the US term "Native American".
                >
                > Careful. Seems that officially not all "aboriginal peoples" are included:
                >
                > First Nations is a term of ethnicity that refers to the aboriginal peoples in Canada who are neither Inuit nor M�tis.
                >
                > Collectively, First Nations, Inuit and M�tis peoples constitute aboriginal peoples in Canada, indigenous peoples of the Americas or first peoples.
                >
                > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_nations
                >
                > Probably best to stick to the calque translation.
                >
                > BR
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                > M.
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              • Hana Jarolímová
                Inuite a Metis tam urcite nepatri - ta veta znela: The agency supports Aboriginal people (First Nations, Inuit and Métis) and Northerners in their efforts
                Message 7 of 8 , Jun 6, 2011
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                  Inuite a Metis tam urcite nepatri - ta veta znela: "The agency supports
                  Aboriginal people (First Nations, Inuit and Métis) and Northerners in
                  their efforts to develop healthier, more sustainable communities" a v
                  celkovem kontextu nemela zadny velky vyznam...
                  H



                  James Kirchner wrote:

                  >So it doesn't mean Eskimos and Indians, it just means Indians. :-)
                  >
                  >JK
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                  >On Jun 6, 2011, at 8:27 AM, Melvyn wrote:
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                  >>--- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, James Kirchner <jpklists@...> wrote:
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                  >>>"First Nations" is just a way of saying "Indians and Eskimos" that is less awkward and politically loaded than the US term "Native American".
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                  >>Careful. Seems that officially not all "aboriginal peoples" are included:
                  >>
                  >>First Nations is a term of ethnicity that refers to the aboriginal peoples in Canada who are neither Inuit nor Métis.
                  >>
                  >>Collectively, First Nations, Inuit and Métis peoples constitute aboriginal peoples in Canada, indigenous peoples of the Americas or first peoples.
                  >>
                  >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_nations
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                  >>Probably best to stick to the calque translation.
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                  >>BR
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                  >>M.
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                • Stephan von Pohl
                  To heslo ve wikipedii preklada Native Americans jako Rodili Americane , coz zni fakt divne. Kdybych to prelozil zpatky do AJ, rekl bych native-born
                  Message 8 of 8 , Jun 6, 2011
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                    To heslo ve wikipedii preklada "Native Americans" jako "Rodili Americane", coz zni fakt divne. Kdybych to prelozil zpatky do AJ, rekl bych "native-born Americans", coz jsem i ja. Tak jak to prelozit? "Domorodi Americane"?

                    -Steve

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                    > Od: "Hana Jarolímová" <jarolimo@...>
                    > Komu: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
                    > Datum: 06.06.2011 14:34
                    > Předmět: Re: [Czechlist] Re: TERM: First Nations
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                    >Inuite a Metis tam urcite nepatri - ta veta znela: "The agency supports
                    >Aboriginal people (First Nations, Inuit and Métis) and Northerners in
                    >their efforts to develop healthier, more sustainable communities" a v
                    >celkovem kontextu nemela zadny velky vyznam...
                    >H
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                    >James Kirchner wrote:
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                    >>So it doesn't mean Eskimos and Indians, it just means Indians. :-)
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                    >>JK
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                    >>On Jun 6, 2011, at 8:27 AM, Melvyn wrote:
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                    >>>--- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, James Kirchner <jpklists@...> wrote:
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                    >>>>"First Nations" is just a way of saying "Indians and Eskimos" that is less awkward and politically loaded than the US term "Native American".
                    >>>>
                    >>>>
                    >>>Careful. Seems that officially not all "aboriginal peoples" are included:
                    >>>
                    >>>First Nations is a term of ethnicity that refers to the aboriginal peoples in Canada who are neither Inuit nor Métis.
                    >>>
                    >>>Collectively, First Nations, Inuit and Métis peoples constitute aboriginal peoples in Canada, indigenous peoples of the Americas or first peoples.
                    >>>
                    >>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_nations
                    >>>
                    >>>Probably best to stick to the calque translation.
                    >>>
                    >>>BR
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                    >>>M.
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