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  • Sarka Rubkova
    Hi, The second means John Conman, JD, PhD And at the first one: associate professor John Conman, JD, PhD CSc is older equivalent of PhD. and doc. is a
    Message 1 of 15 , Aug 1, 2010
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      Hi,
      The second means "John Conman, JD, PhD"
      And at the first one: "associate professor John Conman, JD, PhD"
      CSc is older equivalent of PhD. and doc. is a title at a university.

      Sarka

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      From: James Kirchner
      Date: 31.7.2010 18:40:47
      To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [Czechlist] Doc. JUDr. and JUDr. Dr.


      I've got the letterhead of a private law firm here, and of course it's
      larded with many, many titles that would not appear with American lawyers'
      names, even if they had many different degrees.

      What I've got here looks like this:

      "Doc. JUDr. Jan Podvodník CSc. & JUDr. Lenka Podvodníková, Dr."

      It looks to me like a sign I used to see in front of a building that said:

      "Lewis Business College and Lewis College of Business"

      So what is the difference between being a "Doc. JUDr." and a "JUDr. Dr."?

      Since the guy's already a Dr. due to the JUDr. degree, I don't see why he'd
      call himself "Dr. Dr. Podvodník" unless he stutters. You only call yourself
      Dr. once in the States, if at all.

      Would the equivalent be:

      "John Conman, JD"

      or

      "John Conman, JD, PhD"

      or neither of these?

      I could really use help with this, if anyone can provide it.

      Thank you.

      Sincerely,

      akad. mal. James Kirchner, mgr. jazykovedy





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    • Sarka Rubkova
      Underwater Bank?? sarka ... From: James Kirchner Date: 1.8.2010 3:51:02 To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Czechlist] Doc. JUDr. and JUDr. Dr. I was
      Message 2 of 15 , Aug 1, 2010
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        Underwater Bank??

        sarka

        -------Original Message-------

        From: James Kirchner
        Date: 1.8.2010 3:51:02
        To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [Czechlist] Doc. JUDr. and JUDr. Dr.


        I was not giving that lawyer a "nickname" or calling him a podvodnik, Romana
        I simply made up a completely fictitious first and last name so that I
        wouldn't reveal the identity at all.

        You may have noticed on the list before that I also do this with corporate
        names, such as the fictitious bank I often use as an example: "Podvodni
        banka".

        Jamie

        On Jul 31, 2010, at 4:10 PM, Romana wrote:

        > with which I am saying that
        > I consider the nickname you gave to this lawyer, without knowing him or
        her
        > personally, as highly inappropriate).

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      • Sarka Rubkova
        No, only pane doktore sarka ... From: James Kirchner Date: 1.8.2010 3:52:21 To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Czechlist] Doc. JUDr. and JUDr. Dr.
        Message 3 of 15 , Aug 1, 2010
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          No, only "pane doktore"
          sarka

          -------Original Message-------

          From: James Kirchner
          Date: 1.8.2010 3:52:21
          To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: Re: [Czechlist] Doc. JUDr. and JUDr. Dr.


          So in a meeting would you address him as "pane doktore doktore Novaku"?

          JK

          On Jul 31, 2010, at 4:10 PM, Romana wrote:

          > Therefore he is entitled, and deserves,
          > to use two doctor titles.

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        • Melvyn
          Watch out for the loan sharks. http://www.flickr.com/photos/martinberkeley/2521091436/ Ha ha, loan sharks. BR M.
          Message 4 of 15 , Aug 1, 2010
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            Watch out for the loan sharks.

            http://www.flickr.com/photos/martinberkeley/2521091436/

            Ha ha, loan sharks.

            BR

            M.

            --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, "Sarka Rubkova" <rubkova@...> wrote:
            >
            > Underwater Bank??
            >
            > sarka
            >
            > -------Original Message-------
            >
            > From: James Kirchner
            > Date: 1.8.2010 3:51:02
            > To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
            > Subject: Re: [Czechlist] Doc. JUDr. and JUDr. Dr.
            >
            >
            > I was not giving that lawyer a "nickname" or calling him a podvodnik, Romana
            > I simply made up a completely fictitious first and last name so that I
            > wouldn't reveal the identity at all.
            >
            > You may have noticed on the list before that I also do this with corporate
            > names, such as the fictitious bank I often use as an example: "Podvodni
            > banka".
            >
            > Jamie
            >
            > On Jul 31, 2010, at 4:10 PM, Romana wrote:
            >
            > > with which I am saying that
            > > I consider the nickname you gave to this lawyer, without knowing him or
            > her
            > > personally, as highly inappropriate).
            >
            > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
            >
          • Liz Spacilova
            I like the fire exit sign LOL - Liz
            Message 5 of 15 , Aug 1, 2010
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              I like the fire exit sign LOL

              - Liz

              --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, "Melvyn" <zehrovak@...> wrote:
              >
              > Watch out for the loan sharks.
              >
              > http://www.flickr.com/photos/martinberkeley/2521091436/
              >
              > Ha ha, loan sharks.
              >
              > BR
              >
              > M.
              >
              > --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, "Sarka Rubkova" <rubkova@> wrote:
              > >
              > > Underwater Bank??
              > >
              > > sarka
              > >
              > > -------Original Message-------
              > >
              > > From: James Kirchner
              > > Date: 1.8.2010 3:51:02
              > > To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
              > > Subject: Re: [Czechlist] Doc. JUDr. and JUDr. Dr.
              > >
              > >
              > > I was not giving that lawyer a "nickname" or calling him a podvodnik, Romana
              > > I simply made up a completely fictitious first and last name so that I
              > > wouldn't reveal the identity at all.
              > >
              > > You may have noticed on the list before that I also do this with corporate
              > > names, such as the fictitious bank I often use as an example: "Podvodni
              > > banka".
              > >
              > > Jamie
              > >
              > > On Jul 31, 2010, at 4:10 PM, Romana wrote:
              > >
              > > > with which I am saying that
              > > > I consider the nickname you gave to this lawyer, without knowing him or
              > > her
              > > > personally, as highly inappropriate).
              > >
              > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
              > >
              >
            • Petr
              Dr. - doctor - odpovídá dřívějšímu CSc. a současnému Ph.D., byl udělován v přechodném období (přibližně 7-8 let) po roce 1990 před
              Message 6 of 15 , Aug 1, 2010
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                "Dr. - doctor - odpovídá dřívějšímu CSc. a současnému Ph.D., byl udělován v přechodném období (přibližně 7-8 let) po roce 1990 před zavedením titulu Ph.D., kterým byl zcela nahrazen; dříve se psal před jménem, ale nyní se stejně jako Ph.D. uvádí za jménem; držitelé tohoto titulu mohou požádat příslušnou univerzitu o jeho změnu na Ph.D.; často je neoprávněně používán držiteli malých doktorátů místo příslušných zkratek RNDr., PhDr. atd."
                (Bez diakritiky:
                Dr. - doctor - odpovida drivejsimu CSc. a soucasnemu Ph.D., byl udelovan v prechodnem obdobi (priblizne 7-8 let) po roce 1990 pred zavedenim titulu Ph.D., kterym byl zcela nahrazen; drive se psal pred jmenem, ale nyni se stejne jako Ph.D. uvadi za jmenem; drzitele tohoto titulu mohou pozadat prislusnou univerzitu o jeho zmenu na Ph.D.; casto je neopravnene pouzivan drziteli malych doktoratu misto prislusnych zkratek RNDr., PhDr. atd.)
                Pramen:
                http://info-koktejl.cz/komentare-rozhovory/zajimavosti/prehled-vsech-vysokoskolskych-titulu-dil-i/
                Zdravi Petr Adamek

                --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, James Kirchner <jpklists@...> wrote:
                >
                > I've got the letterhead of a private law firm here, and of course it's larded with many, many titles that would not appear with American lawyers' names, even if they had many different degrees.
                >
                > What I've got here looks like this:
                >
                > "Doc. JUDr. Jan Podvodník CSc. & JUDr. Lenka Podvodníková, Dr."
                >
                > It looks to me like a sign I used to see in front of a building that said:
                >
                > "Lewis Business College and Lewis College of Business"
                >
                > So what is the difference between being a "Doc. JUDr." and a "JUDr. Dr."?
                >
                > Since the guy's already a Dr. due to the JUDr. degree, I don't see why he'd call himself "Dr. Dr. Podvodník" unless he stutters. You only call yourself Dr. once in the States, if at all.
                >
                > Would the equivalent be:
                >
                > "John Conman, JD"
                >
                > or
                >
                > "John Conman, JD, PhD"
                >
                > or neither of these?
                >
                > I could really use help with this, if anyone can provide it.
                >
                > Thank you.
                >
                > Sincerely,
                >
                > akad. mal. James Kirchner, mgr. jazykovedy
                >
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