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  • Bedrich Hadziu
    Jamie wrote:   Of course, if the state subsidizes them, it means that most users are taxed for it, so it amounts to the same thing. :-) Thanks very much.  
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      Jamie wrote:

      "Of course, if the state subsidizes them, it means that most users are
      taxed for it, so it amounts to the same thing. :-)

      Thanks very much."

      Socialism, in theory, is taking money from the rich and giving it to the poor. This, however, is "in theory". In practice, it usually ends up like this: the rich have means to avoid taxation (tax�optimization, tax paradises, state reliefs, exemptions and incentives) so the additional tax is eventually paid by�the middle class and the poor class and part of the gain redistributed to�'special social groups'�(typically the�hard core voters of the socialist parties) with the net effect of rendering everything more expensive for everybody�(since produces increase the�product's end price�by the extra tax, this increase then spreading throughout the economy).

      When one looks at�it soberly,�it is hardly much different from wholesale racketeering. Eventually, the�bar owners increase their prices to compensate for what the racketeers extort from them; the racketeers 'redistribute' part of their racket gains to their cronies.�In effect, everybody�(including more or less the racketeers and their cronies) ends up paying more for the same in those bars.

      Not a very brilliant scheme when applied nationwide...

      BTW: I feel sort of vulnerable today. Any idea where I can get a 'social tariff lunch'?

      :-)

      Best,

      Bedrich �

      --- On Tue, 6/17/08, James Kirchner <jpklists@...> wrote:

      From: James Kirchner <jpklists@...>
      Subject: Re: [Czechlist] Social tariff
      To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 11:27 AM






      Of course, if the state subsidizes them, it means that most users are
      taxed for it, so it amounts to the same thing. :-)

      Thanks very much.

      Jamie

      On Jun 17, 2008, at 11:12 AM, Gerald Turner wrote:

      > Unless those prices subsidised from elsewhere, such as by the state, I
      > suppose. Gerry
      >
      > On 17/06/2008, James Kirchner <jpklists@sbcglobal. net> wrote:
      > >
      > > So, in other words, most users pay higher prices in order to
      > subsidize
      > > the "vulnerable" groups.
      > >
      > > Jamie
      > >
      > > On Jun 17, 2008, at 11:02 AM, Gerald Turner wrote:
      > >
      > > > Hi Jamie,
      > > >
      > > > I understand it to mean reduced prices for "vulnerable" social
      > > > groups. See
      > > > http://www.energych oices.co. uk/british- gas-launches- social-
      > > > tariff.html.
      > > >
      > > > HTH Gerry
      > > >
      > > > On 17/06/2008, James Kirchner <jpklists@sbcglobal. net<jpklists
      > %40sbcglobal. net>>
      > > wrote:
      > > > >
      > > > > Can anyone explain to me what "social tariff" means in my own
      > > > language?
      > > > >
      > > > > I can't seem to find it in any dictionary.
      > > > >
      > > > > Thank you.
      > > > >
      > > > > Jamie
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