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RE: [Czechlist] Re: TERMS: Zahadologie, trampsky

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  • ing.Sárka Rubková
    Ahoj Petre, ty jsi trempoval? Ja bych rekla, ze ne. ... Trampi samozrejme zpivaji v kempech, na potlaších a taky v hospodách. jsou samozrejme i samotari,
    Message 1 of 39 , Aug 30, 2005
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      Ahoj Petre,
      ty jsi trempoval? Ja bych rekla, ze ne.
      > To by bylo na delsi rozbor :-). Rekl bych, ze ti pravi "trampove" jsou
      > vicemene individualiste, vlci samotari, popripade putujici ve
      > velmi malych
      > skupinkach, jen párkrát za rok se sejdou v urceny cas na tradicnich
      > kultovnich horach (napr. Ivanc'ena v Beskydech), tudiz dle meho nazoru
      > nezpivaji, taky proto, ze by to rusilo okolni prirodu. Zpivame
      > (ale vzacne)
      > mi pseudotrampove, kteri taky lezeme po kopcich, ale bez
      > trampskeho "etosu"
      > :-), tj. bez vsech tech trampskych atributu (woodland obleceni, kanady,
      > apod.), zvlast kdyz jsou mezi nama holky, ktere obecne zpivaji radeji nez
      > mi, chlapi.

      Trampi samozrejme zpivaji v kempech, na potlaších a taky v hospodách. jsou
      samozrejme i samotari, ale vetsinou se druzi do osad. Maji domovenkz,
      vlajky.

      > mozna par skalnich trampu jeste z nostalgie pouziva takove
      > archaicke nadobi,
      > ridice se heslem v jednoduchosti je krasa, ale pseudotrampove jsou uz
      > beznadejde infikovani vsi tou reklamou na hi-tech vybaveni do prirody, a
      > tudiz je lze nejcasteji spatrit v goretexove (tj. vode odolne) obuvi,
      > klimatexovem (tj. vlhkost a pot odvadejicim) odeni od ponozek a
      > trenyrek po
      > kalhoty a bundy, vybavene nerezovymi esusy, varici na plyn, obcas
      > uz i GPS
      > navigatory, a podobnymi technologickymi vydobytky.

      Ani dnes trampove nepouzivaji varice na plyn, nosi klasicke esusy - cim
      starsi tim lepsi, protoze ty maji ouska na stranach a daji se za ne dobre
      propevnovat. Dokonce nosi stale teleta a usarny a rozhodne nenosi stany.
      Spaci pytle ano a celty.

      Sarka

      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
      > [mailto:Czechlist@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Petr Veselý
      > Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 8:42 AM
      > To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: Re: [Czechlist] Re: TERMS: Zahadologie, trampsky
      >
      >
      > From: "melvyn.geo" <zehrovak@...>
      > Or do trampove sing "I love
      > > to go a-wandering" type songs as they walk up and down mountains,
      >
      >
      > with
      > > the pots and pans hanging from their rucksacks clanging away in
      > > tune...I catch myself wondering.
      >
      >
      > Association (www.era-ewv-ferp.org/?who) - but I've just noticed that
      > its Secretariat is c/o Klub ceskych turistu , who have their own
      > history and traditions. Hmmmm.
      >
      > Tento spolek bych nezarazoval ani mezi trampy ani mezi
      > pseudotrampy, protoze
      > na rozdil od vyse uvedenych dvou kategorii "turiste" v prirode zasadne
      > nespi, nenosi s sebou nezbytne "ba'gly" se spacakem a stanem, jen
      > poslusne
      > prochazi po znacenych trasach vyznacenych Klubem ceskych turistu,
      > casto i ve
      > vetsich skupinach. Sve tradice taky maji, ale jine, relativne masovejsi a
      > oficialnejsi, ktere prave trampy nelakaji, pred vanoci jsme se ze
      > zvedavosti
      > zucastnili jedne akce vyhlasene KCT, byl to tradicni vystup na
      > kopec Brdo ve
      > Chribech, to byla ale fakt masovka, stovky a stovky lidi, takze
      > jsme radeji
      > rychle pridali do kroku a odpoutali se od hlavniho telesa, abysme
      > si uzili
      > trochu klidu, pripadali jsme si jako na turisticke dalnici :-),
      > na vrcholu
      > pak jako na Vaclavaku.
      >
      > Mimochodem, dalo by se tedy prohlasit, ze "hiker" se vice blizi
      > "turistovi"
      > a "rambler" zase "trampovi"?
      >
      > Petr
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    • Hana Pernicova
      I would say that such combinations of an obviously colloquial word basis and the academic-flavoured suffix -ology always bear the aspect of either humour or
      Message 39 of 39 , Sep 1, 2005
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        I would say that such combinations of an obviously colloquial word basis and the academic-flavoured suffix -ology always bear the aspect of either humour or irony, depending on the context.

        H.

        "melvyn.geo" <zehrovak@...> wrote:
        --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, "Jan Vanek jr." <jan.vanek.jr@s...>
        wrote:

        > And re zahadologie - I think that its proponents use it quite
        > seriously; after all the Greek suffix is the point. (Scientology,
        > anyone?)

        And then there is translatologie (most frequently 'translation
        studies', despite all the hits for 'translatology').

        And 'bunkrologie'...

        M.




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