Re: [Czechlist] Re: Czechia revisited
- I would not be that pessimistic. The biggest problem I see is the common
confusion with Chechnya.
> I would say naming countries is more often political process than we
> may admit. It may be the fundamental issue from the "existential
> point of view" - conquering the territory first, and naming it
> follows second. Logic (or any kind of thinking at all) or linguistics
> become possible after this. I think it is just sad when linguists
> must PRETEND the opposite order. The same with Czechia.
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> > I would say naming countries is more often political process thanwe
> > may admit.Witness The Formal Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia - suddenly it seems
we still didn't end up that badly :-)
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> I would not be that pessimistic. The biggest problem I see is thecommon
> confusion with Chechnya.Hm, how common? I read somewhere that "cech" was used as a nickname
for Chechens in Russia so one would probably do better with "ne
streljajte, ja cechoslovackij!" there, but I suppose there can't be
so many people even in... um, outside Europe who'd think we had two
wars with Russia in a decade and the capital levelled.
Certainly the Slovakia/Slovenia confusion must be much more frequent,
though perhaps a little bit less annoying.
Jan Vanek jr.
malyctenar.blogspot.com - jak Randroidi prekladaji "late Mr. XY"?
> The last time I went to my favorite Korean restaurant in New York, theirYESS! That's my favourite :)
> bear menu featured "Pilsner (Czecho)."
(didn't know Korean cuisine was big on bear meat, though :)
BTW, I don't mind Cesko at all, as long as it is used informally - i.e. OK
in a newspaper headline about the country as a physical entity (Cesko drzi
rekord v piti piva etc.), less OK if it concerns the country as a political
entity - za (Cesko byl pritomen premier Spidla), not OK in "Vyrobeno v
Cesku" etc.. but I guess it'll get there one day
I'm not sure about Czechia and don't know why it should be THE equivalent to
Cesko, but if NS's say they prefer it to (for example) Czecho (which I admit
is highly informal), then I'll live with it..
People still bought it. :-) I think
> the whole argument that we're seen as a country that doesn't know what toAgree
> call itself and thereby hurt its image reeks of pompous provincialism.
- The last time I went to my favorite Korean restaurant in New York, their
bear menu featured "Pilsner (Czecho)." People still bought it. :-) I think
the whole argument that we're seen as a country that doesn't know what to
call itself and thereby hurt its image reeks of pompous provincialism. I
suspect that the rest of the world doesn't really give a damn whether we
call ourselves Czech Republic, the Czech Republic, Czechia, Czechlands or
the Czechlands. Many countries have short and long versions of their name,
and it doesn't seem to bother anyone. Perhaps the Senate could pass the
referendum bill, and lump the question with the next referendum, maybe the
one on the European constitution, let it become a res publica, and get a