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  • Hana Viansová
    Dear all, a few weeks ago you talked about various terms for the at sign (@). I can´t find the discussion in the archive. On the off chance, did anyone save
    Message 1 of 5 , Jan 24, 2003
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      Dear all,
      a few weeks ago you talked about various terms for the "at" sign (@). I can�t find the discussion in the archive. On the off chance, did anyone save it? Or would anyone know where to find it?
      Thank you
      Hanka


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    • melvyn.geo <zehrovak@dr.com>
      ... an´t find the discussion in the archive. On the off chance, did anyone save = it? Or would anyone know where to find it? Thank you Hanka Ahoj
      Message 2 of 5 , Jan 24, 2003
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        --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, Hana Viansová <viansova@s...> wrote:
        > Dear all,
        > a few weeks ago you talked about various terms for the "at" sign (@). I c=
        an´t find the discussion in the archive. On the off chance, did anyone save =
        it? Or would anyone know where to find it?
        > Thank you
        > Hanka
        >
        Ahoj Hanko,

        Jako moderator teto skupiny, sleduju zpravy dost peclive ale nemuzu si pama=
        tovat, ze nekdo by diskutoval o zavinaci ani v poslednich tydnech ani letech=
        . Jsi si jista, ze to bylo prave u nas? Kazdopadne co se da rici o zavinaci?=
        Jmenuje se "at sign" (nebo 'commercial "at" sign') a basta IMHO anebo asi s=
        e zajimas o dejinach, ze ho nejdriv pouzivali florentsti obchodnici v patnac=
        tem stoleti (fakt) s vyznamem 'po'. Anebo asi mas na mysli znak #? To jsme p=
        rodiskutovali asi v tomtez stoleti (zpravy 4966, 4968).

        Ani si nepamatuju, ze 'US Marshals' byli na pretres pred nedavnou diskusi t=
        ento tyden. Asi je to kvuli tomu, ze bydlim v paralelnim vesmiru.

        M.
        ---
        I think therefore erm <tut>
        The young Descartes
      • Hana Viansová
        Asi más pravdu, muselo to být jinde. Stejne díky Hanka ... From: To: Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 8:14 PM
        Message 3 of 5 , Jan 24, 2003
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          Asi más pravdu, muselo to být jinde. Stejne díky
          Hanka
          ----- Original Message -----
          From: <zehrovak@...>
          To: <Czechlist@yahoogroups.com>
          Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 8:14 PM
          Subject: [Czechlist] Re: "at" sign


          > --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, Hana Viansová <viansova@s...> wrote:
          > > Dear all,
          > > a few weeks ago you talked about various terms for the "at" sign (@). I
          c=
          > an´t find the discussion in the archive. On the off chance, did anyone
          save =
          > it? Or would anyone know where to find it?
          > > Thank you
          > > Hanka
          > >
          > Ahoj Hanko,
          >
          > Jako moderator teto skupiny, sleduju zpravy dost peclive ale nemuzu si
          pama=
          > tovat, ze nekdo by diskutoval o zavinaci ani v poslednich tydnech ani
          letech=
          > . Jsi si jista, ze to bylo prave u nas? Kazdopadne co se da rici o
          zavinaci?=
          > Jmenuje se "at sign" (nebo 'commercial "at" sign') a basta IMHO anebo asi
          s=
          > e zajimas o dejinach, ze ho nejdriv pouzivali florentsti obchodnici v
          patnac=
          > tem stoleti (fakt) s vyznamem 'po'. Anebo asi mas na mysli znak #? To jsme
          p=
          > rodiskutovali asi v tomtez stoleti (zpravy 4966, 4968).
          >
          > Ani si nepamatuju, ze 'US Marshals' byli na pretres pred nedavnou diskusi
          t=
          > ento tyden. Asi je to kvuli tomu, ze bydlim v paralelnim vesmiru.
          >
          > M.
          > ---
          > I think therefore erm <tut>
          > The young Descartes
          >
          >
          >
          > Czechlist archive: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Czechlist
          >
          > Czechlist resources:
          > http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/7953/Intro.html
          >
          > Post message: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
          >
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        • Ing. Miroslav HEROLD - IOL
          Ahoj Hanko, Melvyn ma pravdu, tato diskuse se odehravala v diskusni skupine jtp-obecne . Jsi-li clenkou JTP tak na strankach JTP (www.JTP-union.org) najdes
          Message 4 of 5 , Jan 24, 2003
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            Ahoj Hanko,

            Melvyn ma pravdu, tato diskuse se odehravala v diskusni skupine
            "jtp-obecne".
            Jsi-li clenkou JTP tak na strankach JTP (www.JTP-union.org) najdes postup
            jak se do teto skupiny zapojit. Ja se tam prihlasoval uz tak davno, ze si
            postup nepamatuju.
            Kus teto diskuse byl dokonce otisten v ToPu.
            Zda jsou uchovany archivy techto diskusi se zeptej webmastera Ing. Otty
            Pacholika na adrese otto@...

            Zdravim a preji prijemny weekend

            Mirek


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            ----- Original Message -----
            From: "Hana Viansová" <viansova@...>
            To: <Czechlist@yahoogroups.com>
            Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 9:46 PM
            Subject: Re: [Czechlist] Re: "at" sign


            > Asi más pravdu, muselo to být jinde. Stejne díky
            > Hanka
            > ----- Original Message -----
            > From: <zehrovak@...>
            > To: <Czechlist@yahoogroups.com>
            > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 8:14 PM
            > Subject: [Czechlist] Re: "at" sign
            >
            >
            > > --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, Hana Viansová <viansova@s...> wrote:
            > > > Dear all,
            > > > a few weeks ago you talked about various terms for the "at" sign (@).
            I
            > c=
            > > an´t find the discussion in the archive. On the off chance, did anyone
            > save =
            > > it? Or would anyone know where to find it?
            > > > Thank you
            > > > Hanka
            > > >
            > > Ahoj Hanko,
            > >
            > > Jako moderator teto skupiny, sleduju zpravy dost peclive ale nemuzu si
            > pama=
            > > tovat, ze nekdo by diskutoval o zavinaci ani v poslednich tydnech ani
            > letech=
            > > . Jsi si jista, ze to bylo prave u nas? Kazdopadne co se da rici o
            > zavinaci?=
            > > Jmenuje se "at sign" (nebo 'commercial "at" sign') a basta IMHO anebo
            asi
            > s=
            > > e zajimas o dejinach, ze ho nejdriv pouzivali florentsti obchodnici v
            > patnac=
            > > tem stoleti (fakt) s vyznamem 'po'. Anebo asi mas na mysli znak #? To
            jsme
            > p=
            > > rodiskutovali asi v tomtez stoleti (zpravy 4966, 4968).
            > >
            > > Ani si nepamatuju, ze 'US Marshals' byli na pretres pred nedavnou
            diskusi
            > t=
            > > ento tyden. Asi je to kvuli tomu, ze bydlim v paralelnim vesmiru.
            > >
            > > M.
            > > ---
            > > I think therefore erm <tut>
            > > The young Descartes
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > > Czechlist archive: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Czechlist
            > >
            > > Czechlist resources:
            > > http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/7953/Intro.html
            > >
            > > Post message: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
            > >
            > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
            http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
            > >
            >
            >
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            >
            >
            > Czechlist archive: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Czechlist
            >
            > Czechlist resources:
            > http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/7953/Intro.html
            >
            > Post message: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
            >
            > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
            >
            >
          • Jiri Pelka <jiripelka@yahoo.co.uk>
            Good morning, Hana, I have just been doing archiving and early mid-winter cleaning and found an article about @ (at) sign Ikona obchodniku by Giorgio Stabile
            Message 5 of 5 , Jan 31, 2003
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              Good morning, Hana,

              I have just been doing archiving and early mid-winter cleaning and
              found an article about @ (at) sign "Ikona obchodniku" by Giorgio
              Stabile (in a very good Czech translation by, I assume, Petr Kaucky,
              the editor of ToP) in the June 2001 (XI/58) issue of the journal of
              JTP (the ToP I have mentioned in brackets).

              This journal is sent to JTP members and to subscribers (it might be
              found in some good libraries, especially the university ones), and in
              its article, one can get vere well researched, detailed, and thorough
              information about the "at" sign.

              For example, references as far back as into 1536 Tuscany, 1932 New
              York. By the way, the author "guestimates" the sign's origin not
              older than of the 15th century.

              To name just a few national terms for this sign, JTP members at home
              (this means both Czech and Slovak republics, as the JTP is one of the
              few associations that preserved Czecho-Slovak character) as well as
              abroad did their homework, and, found curious nicknames for the "at"
              sign as follows:

              the English, beside regular "at", use "at sign", "commercial
              at", "monkey", "vortex", "Chelsea bun" (correct and/or supplement the
              author, dear native English speakers);

              Dutch call it "apenstaartje",

              Germans "AT-
              Zeichen", "Klammeraffe", "Affenohr", "Affenschwanz", "Schnecke",

              Swedes "snabel-a",

              and for other languages, as well as for the whole article, refer
              kindly to the above issue of the ToP journal.

              By the way, do you find, and did you find years ago, the
              Czech "zavinac" suitable and convenient? I have to admit that I
              disliked it a lot, but, at the end I got accustomed to it.

              Cheers and enjoy snowy good weekend.

              Jiri
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