52187Re: [Czechlist] CHAT: Czech please or Czech Please
- Jul 27, 2013Wow, you studied with Pynsent, Melvyn. And Inultus made you laugh- poor Zeyer. My thesis was on poetika Obnovenych obrazu. I basically concluded 1) he treated his topics in a way that resembles oral tradition and 2) why not use his works as an introduction to (even) old(er) literature in school? (I was at the Faculty of Education :-)) I don't really care about his being gay or otherwise, even though I'm pretty sure he experienced a great deal of frustration.
Tereza Novakova is waay off mark as for the Czech Jane Austen, I obviously did too much contract translation on Thursday :-) Eliska Krasnohorska (mainly Svehlavicka) was the name I was searching for. As for Rettigova, the cookbook is the best, but if you want a laugh, go for it!
You have the most awesome to-do list! Kate Bush - another one of my favourites..
27. 7. 2013 v 12:35, Melvyn:
> Wow, you studied Zeyer, Zuzana. What was your thesis title? I did a module on the Czech Decadents with Robert Pynsent at SSEES in London and laughed all the way through Inultus. Quite enjoyed Dum U tonouci hvezdy too. Have promised myself to read some more Zeyer sometime and it's right up there on my to-do list between "get into Kate Bush lyrics" and "get a proper haircut". Now have to add Tereza Novakova and Magdalena Dobromila Rettigova (Wikipedia: "muze byt pokladana za zakladatelku ceske cervene knihovny"... wahay, more than just cookbooks, eh?) :-O_______________________________________________
> FWIW in Homosexualita v dejinach ceske kultury we read: Na explicitni rovine nenachazi se ani v jeho literarnim dile ani v jeho egodokumentech ani ve svedectvich jeho pratel nic, co by pojmenovavalo nejakou homosexualni zkusenost ci homosexualni citeni. Avsak tytez egodokumenty a tataz svedectvi ukazuji az modelove na to, co Marita Keilson-Lauritz nazyva "homoerotickou konstelaci"... it would hardly surprise me or concern me, but in any case so many writers in those days referred to some unspeakable (and Zeyer does rank quite high on the old nevyslovitelny frequency scale) "thorn in the flesh" (to use Kierkegaard's expression) that you can never really be sure if they just had some amusing fetish or something (like Jane Austen's thing for bonnets).
> --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, Zuzana Benesova <czechlist@...> wrote:
>> 25. 7. 2013 v 19:45, Melvyn:
>>> But who is the Czech Austenova?
>> Tough one.
>> No Czech woman writer comes close I think.
>> Apart from Nemcova, some elements of likeness maybe in
>> M. D. Rettigova - but not a good storyteller
>> Tereza Novakova - but too glum, more like Wuthering Heights
>> Julius Zeyer - but he's not a woman, of course - although I heard someone suggested he was gay. But perhaps he just comes to my mind because I wrote my thesis on him. Anyway, I should reread both Austen and Zeyer, maybe next winter :-)
>> And thanks for the invitation to Facebook, I'll see what I can do ;-)
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