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  • James Kirchner
    May 28, 2013
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      It was not purely for the sake of conversation. It was for my information. I don't need the term right now, but I will probably need something like it in the future.

      Jamie

      On May 28, 2013, at 7:56 AM, Martin Janda wrote:

      > Well, Jamie, most people asking questions in this group have a specific
      > translation issue, which means a specific text as well. Sorry, did not
      > realize your question was purely for the sakeof conversation. Noneed for
      > my input then...
      >
      > Martin
      >
      >
      > Dne 28.5.2013 13:43, James Kirchner napsal(a):
      >>
      >> Martin, there actually doesn't have to be any context in English. The
      >> person merely has to say a woman is or looks like a Stepford wife, and
      >> everyone just understands it.
      >>
      >> Jamie
      >>
      >> On May 28, 2013, at 5:30 AM, Martin Janda wrote:
      >>
      >>> Jasne - rada lidi zna nazev (i kdyz u mladych bych si nebyl jisty ani
      >>> tim), ale nikoli vyznam spojeni. Sam jsem toho zarnym dokladem (jasne,
      >>> jsem barbar :-)). Takze, pokud je preklad urcen pro skupinu
      >>> intelektualu, asi to fungovat bude. Pokud pro siroke masy, vrele bych
      >>> doporucoval vysvetlivku nebo opis. Proto jsem taky po Jamiem chtel
      >>> kontext - mozna by nam usetril spoustu dohadovani.
      >>>
      >>> Martin
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>> Dne 28.5.2013 11:20, Sarka Rubkova napsal(a):
      >>>>
      >>>> Martine,
      >>>> Podle mne jsou "stepfordske panicky" stejne proslule jako "Oliver
      >>>> Twist" (treba)
      >>>>
      >>>> Sarka
      >>>>
      >>>> -----Original Message-----
      >>>> From: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
      >> <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
      >>>> [mailto:Czechlist@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
      >>>> <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Martin Janda
      >>>> Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 11:49 AM
      >>>> To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
      >> <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
      >>>> Subject: Re: [Czechlist] Expression
      >>>>
      >>>> Yes but the knowledge is not widespread. I, for one, know the name but
      >>>> would not know what kind of woman is meant. Unfortunately, I don't
      >>>> think there is any better and short equivalent in Czech.
      >>>>
      >>>> Jamie - if your text is for wide public, I would advise to add some
      >>>> kind of footnote/explanation/whatever.
      >>>>
      >>>> Martin
      >>>>
      >>>> Dne 27.5.2013 11:26, Jakub Skrebsky napsal(a):
      >>>>>
      >>>>> Agree.
      >>>>>
      >>>>> Jakub
      >>>>>
      >>>>> On 27 May 2013, at 04:49, Sarka Rubkova wrote:
      >>>>>
      >>>>> Hi Jamie,
      >>>>>
      >>>>> As far as I know this term was rendered into Czech as "Stepfordska
      >>>>> panieka"
      >>>>>
      >>>>> Sarka
      >>>>>
      >>>>> From: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
      >> <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
      >>>> <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
      >>>>> [mailto:Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
      >> <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
      >>>>> <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of James Kirchner
      >>>>> Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 3:42 AM
      >>>>> To: czechlist@... <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
      >> <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
      >>>> <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
      >>>>> Subject: [Czechlist] Expression
      >>>>>
      >>>>> An idiom, or more accurately, a cultural reference, came up the other
      >>>>> day in a conversation, and I was wondering how it might be rendered in
      >>>>> Czech:
      >>>>>
      >>>>> "a Stepford wife"
      >>>>>
      >>>>> The term comes from a 1975 movie about an affluent American suburb
      >>>>> called Stepford, where men's wives were killed and replaced with
      >>>>> realistic robots that were always well coiffed, gave great sex, and
      >>>>> were completely submissive to the husband's will. Eventually,
      >>>>> everybody's wife was to be replaced with one of these submissive
      >> robots.
      >>>>>
      >>>>> In ordinary conversation, the term is used to describe a wife who is
      >>>>> considered to be her husband's brainwashed zombie.
      >>>>>
      >>>>> Any term for that in Czech?
      >>>>>
      >>>>> Jamie
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