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  • Mihail Mihaylov
    Mar 21, 2013
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      :) As I said, this is not a translation-based pyramid but an investment
      pyramid.

      Mihail

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Martin Janda" <mjanda@...>
      To: <Czechlist@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:07 AM
      Subject: Re: [Czechlist] Professional opportunity


      > What makes you think that? Paying translators more than what the company
      > owner can get from clients would ruin the owner very soonwhile the
      > ultimate goal of any pyramid schemeis to get its founders rich...
      >
      > @Tomas - that was a great response!
      >
      > Martin
      >
      >
      >
      > Dne 21.3.2013 22:55, Mihail Mihaylov napsal(a):
      >>
      >> It's a pyramid. They pay their translators (not in all cases though)
      >> more than they get from their customers. Such a behaviour makes sense
      >> only when you want to get more and more investments and enlarge the
      >> pyramid base.
      >>
      >> I give them 2 or 3 years at the most.
      >>
      >> Mihail
      >>
      >> ----- Original Message -----
      >> From: James Kirchner
      >> To: czechlist@... <mailto:czechlist%40czechlist.org>
      >> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 11:04 PM
      >> Subject: Re: [Czechlist] Professional opportunity
      >>
      >> It doesn't sound like a pyramid scheme to me. It sounds like a
      >> crowdsourcing scheme to get kids and what I call "bilingual chit-chat
      >> ladies" to do translation almost free. Notice that they also have
      >> crowdsourced evaluation.
      >>
      >> This is very much like the Duolingo model, except Duolingo does it by
      >> offering the user free language lessons and confines the translation
      >> to its sponsors and nonprofit sites like Wikipedia. It doesn't try to
      >> snag professional translators.
      >>
      >> Jamie
      >>
      >> On Mar 21, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Mihail Mihaylov wrote:
      >>
      >> > A pyramid. Translation is only a cover.
      >> >
      >> > http://www.crunchbase.com/company/gengo
      >> >
      >> > Mihail
      >> >
      >> > ----- Original Message -----
      >> > From: Foren - Helga
      >> > To: Czechlist@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
      >> > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 10:35 PM
      >> > Subject: Re: [Czechlist] Re: Professional opportunity
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >> > Good evening,
      >> >
      >> > in addition to what Tomas already said, I would like to add that after
      >> > browsing through Gengo Website I would not at all feel comfortable
      >> > submitting any of my data. This especially because I was not able to
      >> > find any verifiable company information on your website.
      >> > IMHO the least a reputable company would, and is actually by the
      >> laws of
      >> > any civilized country required to, disclose are
      >> > a) full postal and physical address of the company
      >> > b) details regarding the company registration (Companies Register,
      >> > Registration Number)
      >> >
      >> > Therefore I regard Gengo as suspicious and would not even think of
      >> doing
      >> > business with them.
      >> >
      >> > Best, Helga
      >> >
      >> > Am 21.03.2013 21:06, schrieb Tomas Mosler:
      >> >>
      >> >> Dear Mr. Prochazka,
      >> >>
      >> >> If you or your company charge $0.06 per a word to the end customer (in
      >> >> case of Standard translation), I wonder what "best rate" are you
      >> >> expecting to pay to the translator.
      >> >>
      >> >> A decent translator might indeed be a rare thing if the rates are less
      >> >> than decent.
      >> >>
      >> >> Best regards
      >> >> Tomas Mosler
      >> >>
      >> >> --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com
      >> <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>
      >> <mailto:Czechlist%40yahoogroups.com>,
      >> >> "prochazka.translations" <prochazka.translations@...> wrote:
      >> >>>
      >> >>> Dear fellow translators,
      >> >>>
      >> >>> I would like to contribute some value to this group by offering a
      >> >> professional/translation opportunity!
      >> >>>
      >> >>> I have been recently entrusted with the task of building and
      >> >> managing an EN-CZ language pair for Gengo (www.gengo.com) and we're
      >> >> trying to acquire some new translators before we open the pair.
      >> >>>
      >> >>> From my test-checking experience so far, only 10 % of applicants
      >> >> accurately and naturally convey the meaning of the English original
      >> >> with minimal grammatical errors. This has clearly shown me that a
      >> >> decent translator is a rare thing indeed!
      >> >>>
      >> >>> If you feel up to the challenge, we'd love for you to take our test.
      >> >> Make sure you understand the minimum quality expectations as well as
      >> >> working terms and conditions outlined here:
      >> >>>
      >> >>> http://gengo.com/translator-team/become-a-translator/
      >> >>>
      >> >>> I look forward to our future cooperation!
      >> >>>
      >> >>> Vit Prochazka
      >> >>> Gengo Senior Translator
      >> >>
      >> >>
      >> >
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