48927Re: [Czechlist] Re: Predsedkyne predstavenstva
- May 2, 2012I'm only a non-NS, but I feel Madam is added there to avoid using
chairwoman and still address the person as a woman... doesn't work in
my case - or most cases in writing
I decided for chairwoman because it's a Czech person and English
readers may not guess she's a woman from just the name, anyway, wasn't
------ Original Message ------
From: "Charlie Stanford Translations"
Sent: 2.5.2012 11:50:24
Subject: Re: [Czechlist] Re: Predsedkyne predstavenstva
> Maybe things will change Liz but "Madame Chairman" is nearly 4 times[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>more common than "Madame Chairwoman" according to Google hits (fairly
>unscientific method but still...). I think the Canadian Deputy Speaker
>is out on a bit of a limb.
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>Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:15 AM
>Subject: [Czechlist] Re: Predsedkyne predstavenstva
>- chairman or chairwoman noun (pl chairmen or chairwomen) 1 somebody
>who presides over or heads a meeting, committee, organization....
>- chairperson noun (pl chairpersons) a chairman or chairwoman
>- womankind noun female human beings; women as a whole, esp as
>distinguished from men.
>My super-ancient Merriam-Webster offers only chairman, but I see
>online they have
>- chairwoman: a woman who serves as chairman
>As to "Madam Chairman", here's a little entertainment from Canada:
>--- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, "Tomas Mosler" <tomas.mosler@...> wrote:
>> Just out of curiosity - cannot be "-man" understood as a
>universal/neutral form derived from the meaning of person/human,
>rather than male? Just like we don't say mankind and womankind? :) Or
>what makes the difference that "mankind" is still gender neutral?
>> --- In Czechlist@yahoogroups.com, "Liz" <spacils@> wrote:
>> > Hi Matej,
>> > IMO, consistency what's most important: either Chairman for males
>and Chairwoman for females, OR Chairperson for all genders.
>> > Chairman for males and Chairperson for females makes my upper lip
>> > Another gender-neutral form, "Chair", is used widely (and
>consistently) in academia.
>> > Someone once tried to explain to me that the -man in Chairman is
>from the Latin "manus" (hand), making "Chairman" gender-neutral, but
>that seems to be one of those popular urban myths...
>> > Cheers
>> > Liz
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