38280Re: [Czechlist] Help: nadpracovat
- Dec 1, 2008Yeah, that's clear and it's what nadpracovat means, only nadpracovat is usually voluntary. I still think I must have heard people talk about extra hours without it meaning any compensation later, just working more.. If I wanted it to be clear, I would use not extra hours on its own...
Another reason why I don't like it for nadpracovat is that your examples sound like it's a regular thing, someone's "forced to" work longer and then given some sort of compensation, in time or money, but nadpracovat - especially in your example - means "to be able to work longer and then take the corresponding time off" - it's done because the worker wants it and because it suits them and the boss is being nice to allow it.. hope I'm being clear...
I don't think it should be a problem to say something along the lines of "some, especially blue collar workers like to me their workhours more flexible by working extra time on certain days and then taking the corresponding time off when they need to" - I haven't even looked at your example now to see if it fits 100%, but that's how it sounded to me when I first read it and that's how it works.. it seemed like a semi-informal report or presentation where this type of sentence would sound Ok and would be easier to understand than trying to come up with an official-sounding one or two word term - just my 2 c's :)
----- Original Message -----
From: James Kirchner
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Czechlist] Help: nadpracovat
On Dec 1, 2008, at 6:58 AM, Matej Klimes wrote:
> Waita minute: "Work extra hours" may simply mean work more than
> expected/required, as in when there's lots of orders in a business
> in a busy period, or when someone does extra shifts because they
> need extra money - it doesn't always mean that they will get the
> corresponding time off later - or does it?
No, it doesn't. The problem is that we don't have a term for forced,
inflexible flex time.
The only way to express it is to say, "They're making me work extra
hours, but they'll give me extra time off later," or, "I have to work
extra hours, but my employer is giving me comp time later," or
something to that effect.
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