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  • Alexandra Jost
    -Dan I think that Fidel Castro is a political genius and I tend to agree with you that this arrangement with Venezuela is only positive for Cuba. -Ali ...
    Message 1 of 6 , Oct 31, 2000
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      -Dan

      I think that Fidel Castro is a political genius and I
      tend to agree with you that this arrangement with
      Venezuela is only positive for Cuba.

      -Ali


      --- Dan Christensen <dchris@...> wrote:
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "Walter Lippmann" <walterlx@...>
      > [snip]
      >
      > > A special provision in the agreement establishes
      > that Cuba will
      > > provide the services of its doctors, medical
      > specialists and
      > > health technicians free of charge. This personnel
      > will work in
      > > areas where it will not displace existing medical
      > staff. The
      > > agreement also specifies that Venezuela will pay
      > the costs
      > > of accommodation, food and internal transportation
      > for Cuban
      > > medical staff, while Cuba will pay their salaries,
      > among other
      > > expenses.
      > >
      > [snip]
      >
      > Wasn't this already happening BEFORE the deal? Does
      > anyone know if the
      > agreement calls for a certain number of doctors,
      > etc. that would represent
      > an actual increase in Cuban medical aid already
      > slated to be sent to
      > Venezuela? I seems to me that this may just be a
      > political manoeuvre to
      > placate the opposition at no cost to Cuba. (A good
      > idea!) Any thoughts on
      > this?
      >
      > Dan
      >
      >
      >
      >


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    • julian2000_cu@yahoo.com
      Dan It was stated in the agreement because there was a manipulation of the opposition in Venezuela saying that Cuba was going to pay to Venezuela with the
      Message 2 of 6 , Nov 1, 2000
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        Dan
        It was stated in the agreement because there was a manipulation of
        the opposition in Venezuela saying that Cuba was going to pay to
        Venezuela with the doctors that where already there.
        The agreement stablish that around a 75% is going to be paid with
        money depending of the price of oil. This payment with money is
        covered by credits of 15 years and low 2% interest.
        The rest is going to be paid with products and services of the
        interest of Venezuela that are written in annex to the agreement.
        I think that We can not say that this agreement is only positive for
        Cuba.
        Julián

        --- In CubaNews@egroups.com, Alexandra Jost <alijost10025@y...> wrote:
        > -Dan
        >
        > I think that Fidel Castro is a political genius and I
        > tend to agree with you that this arrangement with
        > Venezuela is only positive for Cuba.
        >
        > -Ali
        >
        >
        > --- Dan Christensen <dchris@n...> wrote:
        > >
        > > ----- Original Message -----
        > > From: "Walter Lippmann" <walterlx@e...>
        > > [snip]
        > >
        > > > A special provision in the agreement establishes
        > > that Cuba will
        > > > provide the services of its doctors, medical
        > > specialists and
        > > > health technicians free of charge. This personnel
        > > will work in
        > > > areas where it will not displace existing medical
        > > staff. The
        > > > agreement also specifies that Venezuela will pay
        > > the costs
        > > > of accommodation, food and internal transportation
        > > for Cuban
        > > > medical staff, while Cuba will pay their salaries,
        > > among other
        > > > expenses.
        > > >
        > > [snip]
        > >
        > > Wasn't this already happening BEFORE the deal? Does
        > > anyone know if the
        > > agreement calls for a certain number of doctors,
        > > etc. that would represent
        > > an actual increase in Cuban medical aid already
        > > slated to be sent to
        > > Venezuela? I seems to me that this may just be a
        > > political manoeuvre to
        > > placate the opposition at no cost to Cuba. (A good
        > > idea!) Any thoughts on
        > > this?
        > >
        > > Dan
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        >
        >
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      • Dan Christensen
        Julian, Of course, the energy agreement is beneficial to BOTH sides. I was just wondering if there is any real basis to the notion that Cuba is exchanging oil
        Message 3 of 6 , Nov 1, 2000
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          Julian,

          Of course, the energy agreement is beneficial to BOTH sides. I was just
          wondering if there is any real basis to the notion that Cuba is exchanging
          oil for doctors, that is, will there be an significant increase of Cuban
          medical aid over what was planned prior to the agreement? I realize the
          agreement is a "package" deal of which medical services are only a part, so
          I guess the question doesn't have too much relevance. Sorry about that.

          Dan

          ----- Original Message -----
          From: <julian2000_cu@...>
          To: <CubaNews@egroups.com>
          Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 10:19 AM
          Subject: [CubaNews] Re: Fidel and Chavez sign energy agreement


          > Dan
          > It was stated in the agreement because there was a manipulation of
          > the opposition in Venezuela saying that Cuba was going to pay to
          > Venezuela with the doctors that where already there.
          > The agreement stablish that around a 75% is going to be paid with
          > money depending of the price of oil. This payment with money is
          > covered by credits of 15 years and low 2% interest.
          > The rest is going to be paid with products and services of the
          > interest of Venezuela that are written in annex to the agreement.
          > I think that We can not say that this agreement is only positive for
          > Cuba.
          > Julián
          >
          > --- In CubaNews@egroups.com, Alexandra Jost <alijost10025@y...> wrote:
          > > -Dan
          > >
          > > I think that Fidel Castro is a political genius and I
          > > tend to agree with you that this arrangement with
          > > Venezuela is only positive for Cuba.
          > >
          > > -Ali
          > >
          > >
          > > --- Dan Christensen <dchris@n...> wrote:
          > > >
          > > > ----- Original Message -----
          > > > From: "Walter Lippmann" <walterlx@e...>
          > > > [snip]
          > > >
          > > > > A special provision in the agreement establishes
          > > > that Cuba will
          > > > > provide the services of its doctors, medical
          > > > specialists and
          > > > > health technicians free of charge. This personnel
          > > > will work in
          > > > > areas where it will not displace existing medical
          > > > staff. The
          > > > > agreement also specifies that Venezuela will pay
          > > > the costs
          > > > > of accommodation, food and internal transportation
          > > > for Cuban
          > > > > medical staff, while Cuba will pay their salaries,
          > > > among other
          > > > > expenses.
          > > > >
          > > > [snip]
          > > >
          > > > Wasn't this already happening BEFORE the deal? Does
          > > > anyone know if the
          > > > agreement calls for a certain number of doctors,
          > > > etc. that would represent
          > > > an actual increase in Cuban medical aid already
          > > > slated to be sent to
          > > > Venezuela? I seems to me that this may just be a
          > > > political manoeuvre to
          > > > placate the opposition at no cost to Cuba. (A good
          > > > idea!) Any thoughts on
          > > > this?
          > > >
          > > > Dan
          > > >
          > > >
          > > >
          > > >
          > >
          > >
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        • julian2000_cu@yahoo.com
          Dan The Cuban doctors that will work in Venezuela will be free of charge and the quantity depend of what Venezuela needs. One of the services that will be used
          Message 4 of 6 , Nov 1, 2000
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            Dan
            The Cuban doctors that will work in Venezuela will be free of charge
            and the quantity depend of what Venezuela needs.
            One of the services that will be used to pay the oil will be medical
            treatments but in Cuba and for those illness that don't have
            treatment in Venezuela.
            If I get the complete list of products and services that Cuba will
            provide I will send it to you. In this article from Granma you could
            find some information about the agreement
            http://www.granma.cu/ingles/no1/45petroleo-i.html
            My commentary about the benefits was because of what Ali said and is
            only an explanation without any resentment.
            Julián

            --- In CubaNews@egroups.com, "Dan Christensen" <dchris@n...> wrote:
            > Julian,
            >
            > Of course, the energy agreement is beneficial to BOTH sides. I was
            just
            > wondering if there is any real basis to the notion that Cuba is
            exchanging
            > oil for doctors, that is, will there be an significant increase of
            Cuban
            > medical aid over what was planned prior to the agreement? I realize
            the
            > agreement is a "package" deal of which medical services are only a
            part, so
            > I guess the question doesn't have too much relevance. Sorry about
            that.
            >
            > Dan
            >
            > ----- Original Message -----
            > From: <julian2000_cu@y...>
            > To: <CubaNews@egroups.com>
            > Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 10:19 AM
            > Subject: [CubaNews] Re: Fidel and Chavez sign energy agreement
            >
            >
            > > Dan
            > > It was stated in the agreement because there was a manipulation of
            > > the opposition in Venezuela saying that Cuba was going to pay to
            > > Venezuela with the doctors that where already there.
            > > The agreement stablish that around a 75% is going to be paid with
            > > money depending of the price of oil. This payment with money is
            > > covered by credits of 15 years and low 2% interest.
            > > The rest is going to be paid with products and services of the
            > > interest of Venezuela that are written in annex to the agreement.
            > > I think that We can not say that this agreement is only positive
            for
            > > Cuba.
            > > Julián
            > >
            > > --- In CubaNews@egroups.com, Alexandra Jost <alijost10025@y...>
            wrote:
            > > > -Dan
            > > >
            > > > I think that Fidel Castro is a political genius and I
            > > > tend to agree with you that this arrangement with
            > > > Venezuela is only positive for Cuba.
            > > >
            > > > -Ali
            > > >
            > > >
            > > > --- Dan Christensen <dchris@n...> wrote:
            > > > >
            > > > > ----- Original Message -----
            > > > > From: "Walter Lippmann" <walterlx@e...>
            > > > > [snip]
            > > > >
            > > > > > A special provision in the agreement establishes
            > > > > that Cuba will
            > > > > > provide the services of its doctors, medical
            > > > > specialists and
            > > > > > health technicians free of charge. This personnel
            > > > > will work in
            > > > > > areas where it will not displace existing medical
            > > > > staff. The
            > > > > > agreement also specifies that Venezuela will pay
            > > > > the costs
            > > > > > of accommodation, food and internal transportation
            > > > > for Cuban
            > > > > > medical staff, while Cuba will pay their salaries,
            > > > > among other
            > > > > > expenses.
            > > > > >
            > > > > [snip]
            > > > >
            > > > > Wasn't this already happening BEFORE the deal? Does
            > > > > anyone know if the
            > > > > agreement calls for a certain number of doctors,
            > > > > etc. that would represent
            > > > > an actual increase in Cuban medical aid already
            > > > > slated to be sent to
            > > > > Venezuela? I seems to me that this may just be a
            > > > > political manoeuvre to
            > > > > placate the opposition at no cost to Cuba. (A good
            > > > > idea!) Any thoughts on
            > > > > this?
            > > > >
            > > > > Dan
            > > > >
            > > > >
            > > > >
            > > > >
            > > >
            > > >
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