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  • n6346m
    I have just purchased a Crosley Gasporter so I am new to the forum. I know very little about these vehicles except that I knew that they existed and remember
    Message 1 of 6 , Sep 30, 2012
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      I have just purchased a Crosley Gasporter so I am new to the forum. I know very little about these vehicles except that I knew that they existed and remember seeing one or two back in 1964 when I was learning to fly. I probably have the only one in Alaska and I plan to use it for its intended purpose...to refuel my vintage 1943 and 1948 airplanes. It is not currently running since it does not have a battery.
      I will be asking a lot of questions on this forum and appreciate any help I can get. Here are a few questions to start with:
      1. It is serial number 184. Can anyone tell me what year it was built?
      2. How can I tell if it is a Cobra or cast-iron engine? Where is the engine number located?
      3. Before I fry anything, how can I tell if any of it has been converted to 12V or is it 6v positive or negative ground?
      4. What is the best source for the Crosley Chassis repair and parts manuals, Gasporter operator's manual and Gasporter parts manual? Reproductions will be fine.
      5. Is there a list available of parts suppliers/vendors for NOS, reproduction, or used parts?
      Once again, I will sure appreciate any help I can get.


      Bob Picard
      Anchor Point, Alaska
      907-235-2398
    • Peter Berard
      I can help on a few of these queries. (2) The cast block will have Crosley in raised letters at the top front of the block on both sides and it should be
      Message 2 of 6 , Oct 1, 2012
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           I can help on a few of these queries.
         (2)   The cast block will have Crosley in raised letters at the top front of the block on both sides and it should be rough cast surface. The tin block has the Crosley letters stamped from the inside and are central of the block.
         
        (3) If it still has a generator driving the water pump it has to be 6 volt.
         
        (4) See the vendor section on this web site;  http://crosleyautoclub.com/PartsSuppliers.html
         
        (5) same as #4
         
         Also, visit this site;  http://crosleyautoclub.com/
         
           Hope this helps...........p
         
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: n6346m
        Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 2:28 AM
        Subject: [Crosley_Gang] New to Crosleys

         

        I have just purchased a Crosley Gasporter so I am new to the forum. I know very little about these vehicles except that I knew that they existed and remember seeing one or two back in 1964 when I was learning to fly. I probably have the only one in Alaska and I plan to use it for its intended purpose...to refuel my vintage 1943 and 1948 airplanes. It is not currently running since it does not have a battery.
        I will be asking a lot of questions on this forum and appreciate any help I can get. Here are a few questions to start with:
        1. It is serial number 184. Can anyone tell me what year it was built?
        2. How can I tell if it is a Cobra or cast-iron engine? Where is the engine number located?
        3. Before I fry anything, how can I tell if any of it has been converted to 12V or is it 6v positive or negative ground?
        4. What is the best source for the Crosley Chassis repair and parts manuals, Gasporter operator's manual and Gasporter parts manual? Reproductions will be fine.
        5. Is there a list available of parts suppliers/vendors for NOS, reproduction, or used parts?
        Once again, I will sure appreciate any help I can get.

        Bob Picard
        Anchor Point, Alaska
        907-235-2398

      • Dave
        Bob; Welcome to Crosleys. You have purchased a rare and desireable Crosley. The problem is that it is a very specialized vehicle and there are very few
        Message 3 of 6 , Oct 1, 2012
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          Bob;
          Welcome to Crosleys. You have purchased a rare and desireable Crosley. The problem is that it is a very specialized vehicle and there are very few collectors of them. As such some of the information is difficult to find. I will help with what I can and we will wait for the experts to chime in with other answers. I can't help you with year built except to say that they were built in the 47-48 year range perhaps one of the specialists can help there. They were all built with the Cobra engine, however many were later converted. It is relatively easy to tell the 2 apart. Just look on the club web page ( www.crosleyautoclub.com ) under engine family tree to see the visual differences. Not sure how to tell if it was converted. Service motors is your best chance for finding service manuals as they have many of them in stock. If you look on the club web page under parts suppliers you will find a large number of them with all range of parts. If they don't have what you want listed, don't be afraid to ask. Finally, If I may humbly suggest, a membership in the Crosley Auto Club is always helpful as you may be able to find kindred souls nearby. My club roster shows one other member in Alaska (Anchorage). I know it is a long way, but we have had cars from Alaska at the national show in the past!!!
          Dave Anspach
        • butch46988
          Bob, Welcome to the world of Crosleys! As has already been said, the COBRA and CIBA engines are very easy to distinguish from one another. The CIBA: Has a
          Message 4 of 6 , Oct 1, 2012
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            Bob,

            Welcome to the world of Crosleys!

            As has already been said, the COBRA and CIBA engines are very easy to distinguish from one another.

            The CIBA:
            Has a rough cast iron finish.
            Has the thermostat housing on the engine that is held on by two studs (or bolts, depending on who else has been there before).
            The valve cover "overlaps" the top of the block.
            Has two removable water jacket covers on the sides of the block, each is held on with bolts.
            The fan mounting pad is cast as part of the "tower shaft tube" on the front of the block. It is about 3/4" thick and has two holes in it, no slots.
            There will be various pipe plugs or nipples and possibly some freeze plugs installed in it.

            The COBRA engine:
            Has a smooth "sheet metal" finish.
            No thermostat housing on the block, just a non-removable water outlet hose nipple.
            The valve cover fits down inside the top of the block.
            There are two side covers that are NOT removable and there are no bolts going into the block.
            The fan mounting pad is a sheet metal bracket that is welded on to the "tower shaft tube". It has one hole and a slot in it.
            There are NO pipe plugs, nipples or freeze plugs installed in it.

            I hope that this helps.

            Butch and Fonda Williams, Service Motors Inc., 1-574-664-3313, www.servicemotors.net


            --- In Crosley_Gang@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Berard" <berard_m@...> wrote:
            >
            > I can help on a few of these queries.
            > (2) The cast block will have Crosley in raised letters at the top front of the block on both sides and it should be rough cast surface. The tin block has the Crosley letters stamped from the inside and are central of the block.
            >
            > (3) If it still has a generator driving the water pump it has to be 6 volt.
            >
            > (4) See the vendor section on this web site; http://crosleyautoclub.com/PartsSuppliers.html
            >
            > (5) same as #4
            >
            > Also, visit this site; http://crosleyautoclub.com/
            >
            > Hope this helps...........p
            >
            > ----- Original Message -----
            > From: n6346m
            > To: Crosley_Gang@yahoogroups.com
            > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 2:28 AM
            > Subject: [Crosley_Gang] New to Crosleys
            >
            >
            >
            > I have just purchased a Crosley Gasporter so I am new to the forum. I know very little about these vehicles except that I knew that they existed and remember seeing one or two back in 1964 when I was learning to fly. I probably have the only one in Alaska and I plan to use it for its intended purpose...to refuel my vintage 1943 and 1948 airplanes. It is not currently running since it does not have a battery.
            > I will be asking a lot of questions on this forum and appreciate any help I can get. Here are a few questions to start with:
            > 1. It is serial number 184. Can anyone tell me what year it was built?
            > 2. How can I tell if it is a Cobra or cast-iron engine? Where is the engine number located?
            > 3. Before I fry anything, how can I tell if any of it has been converted to 12V or is it 6v positive or negative ground?
            > 4. What is the best source for the Crosley Chassis repair and parts manuals, Gasporter operator's manual and Gasporter parts manual? Reproductions will be fine.
            > 5. Is there a list available of parts suppliers/vendors for NOS, reproduction, or used parts?
            > Once again, I will sure appreciate any help I can get.
            >
            > Bob Picard
            > Anchor Point, Alaska
            > 907-235-2398
            >
          • Jim_Bollman
            Welcome. Sounds like a good match for your other hobby. Here is a link to our gasporter page if you haven t found it.
            Message 5 of 6 , Oct 1, 2012
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              Welcome. Sounds like a good match for your other hobby. Here is a link to our gasporter page if you haven't found it. <http://crosleyautoclub.com/GasPorter/GasPorter.html>

              !. Never seen a breakdown by serial number, hope someone can come up with the info.

              2. Just tap on the side of the engine block it should be obvious, but the quickest way by sight is the Crosley embossed on the water jacket instead of the upper block (on just the distributor side). If there is nothing on the side of the block it may have one of the latter variations. As Dave mentioned check out our Engine Family Tree. <http://crosleyautoclub.com/EngineTree/Crosley_Eng_Tree.html>

              3. It started out as 6 volt positive ground. There are 12 volt retro generators available but most likely it is still 6 volt.

              4. Service Motors have reprints of original Crosley Service Manual and Parts Manual. Never seen a gasporter manual.

              5. Our vendor list. <http://crosleyautoclub.com/PartsSuppliers.html>

              There are several gasporters in the club, not sure any read the message board, but most of the mechanicals are stock Crosley and we should be able to help there.

              Jim...

              --- In Crosley_Gang@yahoogroups.com, "n6346m" <n6346m@...> wrote:
              >
              > I have just purchased a Crosley Gasporter so I am new to the forum. I know very little about these vehicles except that I knew that they existed and remember seeing one or two back in 1964 when I was learning to fly. I probably have the only one in Alaska and I plan to use it for its intended purpose...to refuel my vintage 1943 and 1948 airplanes. It is not currently running since it does not have a battery.
              > I will be asking a lot of questions on this forum and appreciate any help I can get. Here are a few questions to start with:
              > 1. It is serial number 184. Can anyone tell me what year it was built?
              > 2. How can I tell if it is a Cobra or cast-iron engine? Where is the engine number located?
              > 3. Before I fry anything, how can I tell if any of it has been converted to 12V or is it 6v positive or negative ground?
              > 4. What is the best source for the Crosley Chassis repair and parts manuals, Gasporter operator's manual and Gasporter parts manual? Reproductions will be fine.
              > 5. Is there a list available of parts suppliers/vendors for NOS, reproduction, or used parts?
              > Once again, I will sure appreciate any help I can get.
              >
              >
              > Bob Picard
              > Anchor Point, Alaska
              > 907-235-2398
              >
            • Bob Picard
              Thanks everyone for the information you so quickly provided. It is very helpful and will get me started on my project. I have downloaded an application for the
              Message 6 of 6 , Oct 1, 2012
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                Thanks everyone for the information you so quickly provided. It is very helpful and will get me started on my project. I have downloaded an application for the Crosley club and will be sending it out today. The Gasporter is still in Anchorage (200 miles away) and my next step is to go get it and bring it home. At a top speed of 9 MPH I think I will probably trailer it. Once I get it home, I can start on it in earnest. I think it will take very little to get it going.

                Bob Picard
                --- On Mon, 10/1/12, Jim_Bollman <Jim.Bollman@...> wrote:

                From: Jim_Bollman <Jim.Bollman@...>
                Subject: [Crosley_Gang] Re: New to Crosleys
                To: Crosley_Gang@yahoogroups.com
                Date: Monday, October 1, 2012, 5:42 AM

                Welcome. Sounds like a good match for your other hobby.  Here is a link to our gasporter page if you haven't found it. <http://crosleyautoclub.com/GasPorter/GasPorter.html>

                !. Never seen a breakdown by serial number, hope someone can come up with the info.

                2. Just tap on the side of the engine block it should be obvious, but the quickest way by sight is the Crosley embossed on the water jacket instead of the upper block (on just the distributor side).  If there is nothing on the side of the block it may have one of the latter variations.  As Dave mentioned check out our Engine Family Tree. <http://crosleyautoclub.com/EngineTree/Crosley_Eng_Tree.html>

                3. It started out as 6 volt positive ground.  There are 12 volt retro generators available but most likely it is still 6 volt.

                4. Service Motors have reprints of original Crosley Service Manual and Parts Manual. Never seen a gasporter manual.

                5. Our vendor list. <http://crosleyautoclub.com/PartsSuppliers.html>

                There are several gasporters in the club, not sure any read the message board, but most of the mechanicals are stock Crosley and we should be able to help there.

                Jim...

                --- In Crosley_Gang@yahoogroups.com, "n6346m" <n6346m@...> wrote:
                >
                > I have just purchased a Crosley Gasporter so I am new to the forum. I know very little about these vehicles except that I knew that they existed and remember seeing one or two back in 1964 when I was learning to fly. I probably have the only one in Alaska and I plan to use it for its intended purpose...to refuel my vintage 1943 and 1948 airplanes. It is not currently running since it does not have a battery.
                >  I will be asking a lot of questions on this forum and appreciate any help I can get. Here are a few questions to start with:
                >   1. It is serial number 184. Can anyone tell me what year it was built?
                >   2. How can I tell if it is a Cobra or cast-iron engine? Where is the  engine number located?
                >   3. Before I fry anything, how can I tell if any of it has been converted to 12V or is it 6v positive or negative ground?
                >   4. What is the best source for the Crosley Chassis repair and parts manuals, Gasporter operator's manual and Gasporter parts manual? Reproductions will be fine.
                >   5. Is there a list available of parts suppliers/vendors for NOS, reproduction, or used parts?
                > Once again, I will sure appreciate any help I can get.
                >
                >
                > Bob Picard
                > Anchor Point, Alaska
                > 907-235-2398
                >



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