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Pre/post war hub caps

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  • mrcooby
    Robert, I m thinking there may be a desire for the flatter hubcaps, as to my knowledge those haven t been subject to any remanufacture. I d be delighted to
    Message 1 of 6 , Dec 18, 2007
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      Robert, I'm thinking
      there may be a desire
      for the flatter
      hubcaps, as to my
      knowledge those haven't
      been subject to any
      remanufacture. I'd be
      delighted to loan you a
      mint flat cap; those
      were stamped with both
      the arrow-script logo
      and the
      later 'speedline' logo.

      (History note: Trans
      World Airlines, on
      whose board of
      directors Powel Crosley
      Jr. served, had an
      arrow-based logo at the
      time that was nearly
      identical to Crosley's
      arrow-script logo, and
      it's thought that Powel
      agreed to modify the
      Crosley design enough
      to avoid any confusion -
      in case anyone would
      potentially be
      confused - and ergo the
      late speedline logo.)

      Robert Kirk
      <kirkbrit@...> wrote:

      "I am going to try and
      have both pre war and
      post war hubcaps made.
      If anyone has a decent
      used sample to loan of
      a prewar I would
      appreciate it. It will
      be returned and a
      concession made if the
      loaner wants my
      repros. I am looking
      at having them one
      piece made in Stainless
      steel...

      Would appreciate any
      input as to the
      propriety of the post
      war hub caps. There
      are both high dome and
      low dome and I have
      samples of each however
      I have no idea which
      may be more proper. I
      think I heard that the
      high dome were replaced
      because they so easily
      damaged near curbs. I
      will have only one
      style made and would
      like to hear from those
      who know or anyone with
      any input."

      > Thanks
      >
      >
      > Regards,
      > Robert Kirk
      > www.kirks-auto.com
    • jimemco55@aol.com
      I have 5 caps,one of which says crosmobile on it. They are in fair shape,(meaning no rust-through) and are for sale. I am in Akron,Ohio 44312. E-mail me if
      Message 2 of 6 , Dec 18, 2007
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        I have 5 caps,one of which says "crosmobile" on it. They are in fair shape,(meaning no rust-through) and are for sale. I am in Akron,Ohio 44312. E-mail me if any interest. Jim



      • Robert Kirk
        those were stamped with both the arrow-script logo and the later speedline logo. Lew, if I read you correctly the arrow script was the original and included,
        Message 3 of 6 , Dec 19, 2007
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           those
          were stamped with both
          the arrow-script logo
          and the
          later 'speedline' logo.
           
          Lew, if I read you correctly the arrow script was the original and included, as my failing memory recalls, a segmented or multi broken arrow.  The speedline is what we find on most post war models.  Have you any idea when the change occured?  I think we need to speak and I can't easily find your number.  How about a direct contact via email.
          THANKS
          RK


          Regards,
          Robert Kirk
          www.kirks-auto.com


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        • David W. Anspach
          Robert; I would agree with Lou that there may be a desire for the flatter cap. Yankee Crosley is having the high dome made and what I ve seen of them they are
          Message 4 of 6 , Dec 19, 2007
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            Robert;
            I would agree with Lou that there may be a desire for the flatter
            cap. Yankee Crosley is having the high dome made and what I've seen
            of them they are really nice. I just fear I will do to them what
            happened to the original high domes. That is, damage them every time
            I park at a curb. In any case, I wish you luck in your quest. Even
            the Chinese want a minimum commitment for the caps and some tooling
            investment. I made an effort on the flat cap a number of years ago
            and just couldn't afford the minimum investment along with the problem
            of communication with the Chinese (tried India also). If I remember
            right, they wanted a minimum order of 1,000 caps for initial
            production and an investment of several thousand dollars for tooling
            up front.
            As far as the arrow on the hubcap, I have seen both the full
            arrow and the single line on both high and low dome caps and on
            vehicles of all years. If someone has a definate timeline, I'd like
            to see it too. I have seen high domes on pictures of cars from the
            factory up to 1952.
            Dave
          • mrcooby
            The 39-through- 42 caps were all, I believe, identical ... high-domed with the Crosley Corporation lightning-bolt logo embossed in blue. From 1946 the domed
            Message 5 of 6 , Dec 22, 2007
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              The '39-through-'42
              caps were all, I
              believe, identical ...
              high-domed with the
              Crosley Corporation
              lightning-bolt logo
              embossed in blue. From
              1946 the domed
              configuration remained
              but with the new
              Crosley Motors logo,
              the familiar forward-
              slanting Italic
              lettering embossed in
              red with the Indian
              arrow running through.
              At this point the
              actual chronology
              becomes murky; no doubt
              because of the curb-
              abrasion problems,
              there was a running
              change about 1949(?) to
              low-dome caps but with
              the arrow-logo
              continuing on. (These
              are quite common.)
              Towards the end of
              production, the Italic
              lettering remained but
              the arrow disappeared,
              replaced by two
              speedlines, reputedly
              but unverifiably at the
              request of TWA.

              (A footnote: in "The
              Crystal Ball" (1943),
              there is a closeup of
              Ray Milland's driver-
              side rear hubcap, and
              it's already got curb
              rash. On the driver's
              side!)

              =Lou Rugani=

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              Robert Kirk
              <kirkbrit@...> wrote:
              >
              > those
              > were stamped with
              both
              > the arrow-script logo
              > and the
              > later 'speedline'
              logo.
              >
              > Lew, if I read you
              correctly the arrow
              script was the original
              and included, as my
              failing memory recalls,
              a segmented or multi
              broken arrow. The
              speedline is what we
              find on most post war
              models. Have you any
              idea when the change
              occured? I think we
              need to speak and I
              can't easily find your
              number. How about a
              direct contact via
              email.
              > THANKS
              > RK
              >
              >
              > Regards,
              > Robert Kirk
              > www.kirks-auto.com
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