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  • customdecks2010
    1.) I m rebuilding my transmission. The only part I need is an NOS 2nd to 3rd slider gear. Does anyone know where I can get one? 2.) Does anyone know the
    Message 1 of 5 , Jun 8, 2009
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      1.) I'm rebuilding my transmission. The only part I need is an "NOS" 2nd to 3rd slider gear. Does anyone know where I can get one?

      2.) Does anyone know the proper factory torque spec on my pinion nut for the differential? My manual does not have this listed.
    • berard_m@bellsouth.net
      You can get NOS trans parts from Service Motors 574-664-3313 or 866-449-0029. I have a 1947 Crosley factory shop manual. It has all the engine torque specs,
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        You can get NOS trans parts from Service Motors 574-664-3313 or 866-449-0029.

          I have a 1947 Crosley factory shop manual. It has all the engine torque specs, but nothing for the rear end. I tighten the snot out of mine when rebuilt it, but you need to understand the spacing of the pinion bearings. I don't mean to underestimate your knowledge, and if I did I apologize. This is critical and can lead to failure soon on. If you do not have any training or experience setting the bearing clearances, pinion/ring gear lash, and gear pattern settings, you would be very lucky to have any success at all.
          Hope this helps, and ask when needed .............pete 
        ----- Original Message -----
        Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 1:29 PM
        Subject: =CROSLEY= I need help on my pickup rebuild

        1.) I'm rebuilding my transmission. The only part I need is an "NOS" 2nd to 3rd slider gear. Does anyone know where I can get one?

        2.) Does anyone know the proper factory torque spec on my pinion nut for the differential? My manual does not have this listed.

      • K. B.
        Hi Pete, Thanks for taking the time to help me out. You have not offended my knowledge of gear setup. I understand how things go. So, when you say tighten the
        Message 3 of 5 , Jun 12, 2009
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          Hi Pete,
          Thanks for taking the time to help me out. You have not offended my knowledge of gear setup. I understand how things go. So, when you say "tighten the snot" out of the pinion nut, that means you really pull it tight!  Do you use a torque wrench? If so, how many foot-pounds of torque? Do you use Loctite? For obvious reasons, I surely don't want to do this job more than once.
           
                                                                                                                       Sincerely,
                                                                                                                         Keith

          --- On Tue, 6/9/09, berard_m@... <berard_m@bellsouth..net> wrote:

          From: berard_m@... <berard_m@...>
          Subject: Re: =CROSLEY= I need help on my pickup rebuild
          To: Crosley@yahoogroups.com
          Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 5:21 PM

          You can get NOS trans parts from Service Motors 574-664-3313 or 866-449-0029.

            I have a 1947 Crosley factory shop manual. It has all the engine torque specs, but nothing for the rear end. I tighten the snot out of mine when rebuilt it, but you need to understand the spacing of the pinion bearings. I don't mean to underestimate your knowledge, and if I did I apologize. This is critical and can lead to failure soon on. If you do not have any training or experience setting the bearing clearances, pinion/ring gear lash, and gear pattern settings, you would be very lucky to have any success at all.
            Hope this helps, and ask when needed ............ .pete 
          ----- Original Message -----
          Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 1:29 PM
          Subject: =CROSLEY= I need help on my pickup rebuild

          1.) I'm rebuilding my transmission. The only part I need is an "NOS" 2nd to 3rd slider gear. Does anyone know where I can get one?

          2.) Does anyone know the proper factory torque spec on my pinion nut for the differential? My manual does not have this listed.


        • berard_m@bellsouth.net
          Hey Keith, I guessed, from the torque required to satisfy my halfassed judgment, and set it on the light side at 125 foot pounds. Partly because the pinion
          Message 4 of 5 , Jun 12, 2009
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            Hey Keith,
              
             I guessed, from the torque required to satisfy my halfassed judgment, and set it on the light side at 125 foot pounds. Partly because the pinion shaft has some influence from the gear hardening process, and likely has been subjected to typical Crosley abuse. I'd not like to snap off a weakened pinion.  (see rear end notes about this subject) No loctite, but staked the nut.   I adjusted the pinion shims so that just a bit of bearing preload when the pinion is turned by fingers, with the ring gear removed and the nut fully torqued. It has worked well for me, but this ain't the bible. 
             
            Remember, you'll need to backtrack many times to get the gear pattern right and carrier bearing side clearance proper also. And, one of the things you'll need to consider is the shims you will likely be using are dinged up some and need additional crush to start with.   Kinda like pickin out a girl at the square dance. (I ask the drummer)
             
             This ain't no six pack job, and, by no means, what I've said provides adequate information to build a good rear.
             
              I have in excess of a half a dozen torque wrenches of various types, I've that have adopted over the years. I NEVER tighten a fastener of major importance with out a torque wrench, IF, I can acquire the specs. No good mechanic would. But, I have become accustomed to given ratings for different applications, and use them if dumb struck. This will happen when one must work on many of the rare (strange) foreign cars in the world. Absolutely no information was available for some of those I have rebuilt.
             
                                 Good luck and best wishes................pete 
            ----- Original Message -----
            From: K. B.
            Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:49 AM
            Subject: Re: =CROSLEY= I need help on my pickup rebuild

            Hi Pete,
            Thanks for taking the time to help me out. You have not offended my knowledge of gear setup. I understand how things go. So, when you say "tighten the snot" out of the pinion nut, that means you really pull it tight!  Do you use a torque wrench? If so, how many foot-pounds of torque? Do you use Loctite? For obvious reasons, I surely don't want to do this job more than once.
             
                                                                                                                         Sincerely,
                                                                                                                           Keith

            --- On Tue, 6/9/09, berard_m@bellsouth. net <berard_m@bellsouth. .net> wrote:

            From: berard_m@bellsouth. net <berard_m@bellsouth. net>
            Subject: Re: =CROSLEY= I need help on my pickup rebuild
            To: Crosley@yahoogroups .com
            Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 5:21 PM

            You can get NOS trans parts from Service Motors 574-664-3313 or 866-449-0029.

              I have a 1947 Crosley factory shop manual. It has all the engine torque specs, but nothing for the rear end. I tighten the snot out of mine when rebuilt it, but you need to understand the spacing of the pinion bearings. I don't mean to underestimate your knowledge, and if I did I apologize. This is critical and can lead to failure soon on. If you do not have any training or experience setting the bearing clearances, pinion/ring gear lash, and gear pattern settings, you would be very lucky to have any success at all.
              Hope this helps, and ask when needed ............ .pete 
            ----- Original Message -----
            Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 1:29 PM
            Subject: =CROSLEY= I need help on my pickup rebuild

            1.) I'm rebuilding my transmission. The only part I need is an "NOS" 2nd to 3rd slider gear. Does anyone know where I can get one?

            2.) Does anyone know the proper factory torque spec on my pinion nut for the differential? My manual does not have this listed.


          • K. B.
            Hey Pete: Ok, thanks a ton for your help. I, too have done a lifetime of car repair (that s my trade) but I didn t want to goof up my beautifull little truck.
            Message 5 of 5 , Jun 12, 2009
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              Hey Pete:
              Ok, thanks a ton for your help. I, too have done a lifetime of car repair (that's my trade) but I didn't want to goof up my beautifull little truck. I'll take your advice under close consideration.
               
                                                                                                                                    K.B.

              --- On Fri, 6/12/09, berard_m@... <berard_m@...> wrote:

              From: berard_m@... <berard_m@...>
              Subject: Re: =CROSLEY= I need help on my pickup rebuild
              To: Crosley@yahoogroups.com
              Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 7:08 PM

              Hey Keith,
                
               I guessed, from the torque required to satisfy my halfassed judgment, and set it on the light side at 125 foot pounds. Partly because the pinion shaft has some influence from the gear hardening process, and likely has been subjected to typical Crosley abuse. I'd not like to snap off a weakened pinion.  (see rear end notes about this subject) No loctite, but staked the nut.   I adjusted the pinion shims so that just a bit of bearing preload when the pinion is turned by fingers, with the ring gear removed and the nut fully torqued. It has worked well for me, but this ain't the bible. 
               
              Remember, you'll need to backtrack many times to get the gear pattern right and carrier bearing side clearance proper also. And, one of the things you'll need to consider is the shims you will likely be using are dinged up some and need additional crush to start with.   Kinda like pickin out a girl at the square dance. (I ask the drummer)
               
               This ain't no six pack job, and, by no means, what I've said provides adequate information to build a good rear.
               
                I have in excess of a half a dozen torque wrenches of various types, I've that have adopted over the years. I NEVER tighten a fastener of major importance with out a torque wrench, IF, I can acquire the specs. No good mechanic would. But, I have become accustomed to given ratings for different applications, and use them if dumb struck. This will happen when one must work on many of the rare (strange) foreign cars in the world. Absolutely no information was available for some of those I have rebuilt.
               
                                   Good luck and best wishes...... ......... .pete 
              ----- Original Message -----
              From: K. B.
              Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:49 AM
              Subject: Re: =CROSLEY= I need help on my pickup rebuild

              Hi Pete,
              Thanks for taking the time to help me out. You have not offended my knowledge of gear setup. I understand how things go. So, when you say "tighten the snot" out of the pinion nut, that means you really pull it tight!  Do you use a torque wrench? If so, how many foot-pounds of torque? Do you use Loctite? For obvious reasons, I surely don't want to do this job more than once.
               
                                                                                                                           Sincerely,
                                                                                                                             Keith

              --- On Tue, 6/9/09, berard_m@bellsouth. net <berard_m@bellsouth. .net> wrote:

              From: berard_m@bellsouth. net <berard_m@bellsouth. net>
              Subject: Re: =CROSLEY= I need help on my pickup rebuild
              To: Crosley@yahoogroups .com
              Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 5:21 PM

              You can get NOS trans parts from Service Motors 574-664-3313 or 866-449-0029.

                I have a 1947 Crosley factory shop manual. It has all the engine torque specs, but nothing for the rear end. I tighten the snot out of mine when rebuilt it, but you need to understand the spacing of the pinion bearings. I don't mean to underestimate your knowledge, and if I did I apologize. This is critical and can lead to failure soon on. If you do not have any training or experience setting the bearing clearances, pinion/ring gear lash, and gear pattern settings, you would be very lucky to have any success at all.
                Hope this helps, and ask when needed ............ .pete 
              ----- Original Message -----
              Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 1:29 PM
              Subject: =CROSLEY= I need help on my pickup rebuild

              1.) I'm rebuilding my transmission. The only part I need is an "NOS" 2nd to 3rd slider gear. Does anyone know where I can get one?

              2.) Does anyone know the proper factory torque spec on my pinion nut for the differential? My manual does not have this listed.



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